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That's not the medal ceremony, but the 'Flower/TigerPlush' ceremony. The medal ceremony took place a few hours ago at the plaza, with national anthem and all.
2018 Olympic Figure Skating Pairs FS
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That's not the medal ceremony, but the 'Flower/TigerPlush' ceremony. The medal ceremony took place a few hours ago at the plaza, with national anthem and all.
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Lol, there is an official medal ceremony on the Olympic village. I'm sure someone can link to it (pretty please and thank you!).
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Come on! Skaters are used to train on ice not resurfaced. Free style session are 50 to 90 minutes full of other skaters. They train on much « worse » conditions than competitive ice.
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Meh.
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S k a t i n g - I s - Aw e s o m e
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I NEED Aliona to see this
So happy for Aliona and Bruno :') a very well deserved win!!! I was gutted after they were 4th in the SP, because I wasn't convinced they could make up that many points in the Free, but they certainly defied my expectations!
Disappointed for Sui/Han - would have loved to see a clean Turandot from them at this event, but I'm glad they did enough for 2nd place.
Not really a big fan of the Canadians, but that quad throw did have me applauding like crazy. Kudos to them for a second medal at these games!
I thought the judging overall for the top teams was very fair, and find it difficult to believe that people are still crying conspiracy. The Chinese team lost not because they are Chinese, but due to several clear errors in the FS. It wasn't the podium I expected, but it's the one that reflects the performances delivered at this event.
Disappointed for Sui/Han - would have loved to see a clean Turandot from them at this event, but I'm glad they did enough for 2nd place.
Not really a big fan of the Canadians, but that quad throw did have me applauding like crazy. Kudos to them for a second medal at these games!
I thought the judging overall for the top teams was very fair, and find it difficult to believe that people are still crying conspiracy. The Chinese team lost not because they are Chinese, but due to several clear errors in the FS. It wasn't the podium I expected, but it's the one that reflects the performances delivered at this event.
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, like yesterday, sitting at work, going for a coffee in a couple of minutes...Still cannot wrap my head around what happened - I mean, how GREAT this final was?! So many performances to re-watch, so many emotions to re-vive, so many victorious moments, but podium has only 3 places and there were also heartbreaks...Like I said yesterday, the level in Pairs' discipline went incredibly high in the past quad, starting with couple of great pair teams who pushed several more, now resulting in such deep, versatile field that is not only about executing their elements, but creating MOMENTS of weight worth Olympic medal, like all 3 medallist teams did today. The most important thing about all of them? The fact that they seemed to ALL skating with gold medal in mind (I'd also include Valentina/Ondrej there, because man, did they have a poise and attack in everything they produced?! They are definitely mental champions for me, giving out the purest enthusiasm of performing in front of people and being so genuine in their hard work and expecting great results from it, not demanding it) - seeing them back-to-back, one after another, producing that level of exquisiteness showed how determined, focused, goal-oriented and willing they are. Such mindset, spirit, courage, competitive drive! And I agree about backstage outtakes - being heartbroken for Wenjing/Cong, totally understanding the sadness of having gold that close, yet that far, but over the moon for seeing Meagan and Aljona's camanderie, this pride floating all around, sense of accomplishment and fulfilment after rocky times and troubles. On the opposite - heartbreaking reaction from Evgenia on their scores and realization of missing a medal...But as many of You already wrote - were they on money technically today, the medal was totally theirs, despite all musical choice discussion. I hope they will stick around and expand more their talent, capabilities, skills in the next quad.
I think that the biggest revelation for me from Pairs are Valentina and Ondrej, their attitude and approach towards every outing in particular. They really managed to somehow surpass this 'great entertainers' with showy programs label and become real contenders, aiming for the best. And it happened for me mostly because of those programs, this particular flair and style, often considered as 'cheesy' - them feeling so very comfortable really eased them technically/execution-wise I feel; as a result, they succeeded in pulling off memorable, vivid, engaged performance for audience AND making it effective in terms of placements, smashing (yet again!) their FS PB. One thing is to have a soul for performance, influencing every piece with skaters' character, but another one is to realize and accept it by judges, audiences as an integral part of a team, not 'boxing' them inside this one image of someone. Valentina and Ondrej lived up the music for me by so much personality input in every move, on the top of great execution of elements. I mean, what a progress, what consistency and solidness in delivering fantastic performances in a row! Their pure joy expressed by the whole experience is just infectious, and finally they become competition stars as big as they always were in their own stuff. The key thing, break-out one was also seeing them fluidly transitioning between solid execution of elements into character/expression mode - as they were far more tentative with elements before, such progress. Bravi, bravissimi!
Vanessa and Morgan did not produce maybe such 'big moment' like they did at Europeans last year with 'Sound of silence' FS, nonetheless it was solid and memorable performance for me. I think that they may approach this FS a tab bit too cautious and reserved, maybe that's just my impression, Vanessa definitely looked nervous after doubling 3S. Still, I think that this is one of those Pairs that are able to capture the spirit/mood of the music and translate it into skating amazingly, drawing people inside of the experience, regardless of technical issues and lead the performance to emotional climax/momentum along with piece of music. I honestly love their return to last season's free program, it has such impact that brings people closer to them, great to see it performed in front of the world
And now a bit of general remark about final group - the rivalry level was out of this world and kudos for all 4 teams to try their best in state of immense pressure of the event. I probably never saw teams responding by their performances that strongly one after another regarding first three programs in the final group; it really felt like all 3 were going for the win in their had and looking at Evgenia and Vladimir, they looked for me way more tense and cautious, which did not help the energetic vibe of their FS, regardless of our subjective feel about it in general. I think that the pressure got too much also to Wenjing and Cong, unfortunately - elements at the beginning were a bit off the mark, comparing to their previous outings of that FS; they still got back to their usual self later though, producing quality performance. Regarding this discussion about such small margin Chinese lost to Germans - well, I think that the former had a mistake margin after SP accommodating troubled sbs 3S (being Wenjing's nemesis) and maybe one/two level(s) lost on non-jump elements , but Cong's popped jump in sbs combo and more lost levels made things way harder. I think that there is no point to digest on jumps' issues, but I am really curious about those levels lost on pair spin and last lift - the lift in particular, which was usually one of their 'money' element I think, it would be amazing to have someone knowledgeable in Pairs' levels to maybe illustrate how those levels worked in their case. Saying that, I think that starting order make a bit of difference too (laugh as much as you want) - I kind of sensed it already in Pairs SP thread that going first for Aljona and Bruno could really help them to loosen up and going for a moment and a performance to remember like they did at GPF: under the radar. Going first - and performing like they did - made them really set the bar and the tone for the rest of final group and not everyone lifted that weight up. And Chinese going after them, with mistakes left a very little room to manoeuvre which was then reflected in scores so close to each other. I wonder also now, if an argument could be made about Chinese being underscored in SP, which then could have an influence on total score - personally, I found their SP underscored in PCS comparing to others' performances, but not sure if more advantage in SP would be enough. At this point it is all 'coulda, woulda, shoulda' discussion. The fact is that Aljona/Bruno brought not only their A game, but whole alphabet game in this FS and it demanded adequate responses by other competitors.
As for Aljona/Bruno's FS, I think that they both elevated each other and helped to carry pressure, tension and expectation experienced by both of them, I've never felt that one have lost another during the performance. It was almost like seeing them skating it alone in a bubble, the connection was very strong and very particular in my opinion - it was really about this one, specific moment, performance and presence there and now. The program itself its fantastic, but it can reach you physically quite deep while performed by them like today - the combination of this music building to a crescendo with grandiose, size of their movement kept me on the proverbial edge of my seat. I think that this surroundings, what happened in SP, the stakes made the whole performance way more intense and vivid than their GPF record performance in December, yet the execution, movement, connections felt almost feathery, delicate, blurred/blended. For me, this is one of a kind example of a program that demands an excellent work with movement's tempo and slow-motion technique operating - and today they really excelled in that, as the movement seemed to be hung in the sky in places. This FS is an exquisite result of Aljona/Bruno's development as a team, but also a prime example of how the discipline was pushed 'artistically', packaging-wise in past 4 years - the strive for a clean, solidly executed programs was way expanded by various teams, presenting different takes/styles than classical, statuesque and 'static' image of Pairs skating, bringing the discipline closer to 'now' than looking back how it was 'then', comparing stuff. Top 3, along with James/Cipres, Stolbova/Klimov, Marchei/Hotarek, Seguin/Bilodeau (to some extend, with great promise of progress) really took skating to another level of accessibility I feel, producing quality that captures crowds not only on the big occasions, quality that includes emotions and particularity/originality in style/choreography design/interpretation areas. I think that today's performance was a pinnacle of their hard work, effort and determination and a perfect, effortless blend of skill and beauty - prove that Pairs skating can be not only solid, but amaze people in deeper level, beyond sole visuals. While Aljona was finally crowned as a Queen officially with Olympic gold (being Queen of hearts by many people way earlier, including mine), Bruno conquered a lot more than just Olympic title I feel - he mostly shown an incredible strength of his mind, soul and a brave, courageous hart dedicated for the sport and competition; his selfless attitude and care about Aljona were visible/felt in his every move and gesture for me. He brought out emotions in himself that inspired many more in us.
Saying all the praise about German's victory, Meagan and Eric's triumph tasted even sweeter in my perception. This is for me the most competitively driven, spirited team of past quad, period - their whole career was all about improvement, climb to the top, despite hate, critic and discouragement, and their aim was always being on the top, not settling themselves for less, constantly pushing themselves to stay where they worked so hard to be. And yet again, the only team with such impeccable peaking ability - after rocky season, a season after Eric's injury and disappointing Worlds, season full of twirling around FS program they raised to the biggest occasion and proved their worth. The team which is so smart and conscious about their moves, plan - bringing back 'Hometown Glory' FS was the best decision possible, with whole aim to get Team gold medal and its successful memory. The team with broad experience consisting of good and the bad - always taking lessons from both and pushing forward, aiming for best, but never demanding it automatically. Both are for me role model hard workers, great, ambitious achievers and fantastic, compassionate competitors - I fell that this FS performance illustrated all those things I have in mind thinking of them. Their attitude, power in step, speed really elevated the program altogether, as this is for me a vehicle designed to highlight their best qualities: athletic, powerful presentation, unity between them while performing, putting their technical skill on display and engagement they have for the music and choreography. There was incredible maturity and composure, control displayed, even after those hands down in 3Lz at the beginning - lots of teams would go downhill from that, but not them. They kept raising the bar for themselves, pushing the tone of impact of their skating higher, especially after this historic 4Sth. I think that what set them apart and made the difference resulting in two medals is incredible confidence and belief in each other and their team in general, conviction in their material, decisions and work they are doing. What an amazing conclusion of their career, what a privilege to witness it and feel the energy, enthusiasm for the sportsmanship in general radiating from them. One last words about Meagan - the spirit, drive she has, an equal intense attitude for each performance really make difference and gives Eric strength to do the same; her passionate, dynamic personality fuels that partnership and really shapes it for the win - and today's bronze sure is a victory.
Despite issues in execution, I found Sui/Han's performance very intense, passionate and poised, in 'regal' sense of perception. I think that they perfectly translated the magnitude feel of the music/story into ice reality, competitive environment, with huge dose of emotion shared with audience and between them. I personally find 'Turandot' FS a perfect fit for presenting their variety and capabilities in terms of being delicate and powerful at the same time. Wenjing's fierceness is second to none - and I expected no other level of disappointment from her after scores appeared. Saying that, I still feel that the experience will motivate them going forwards, taking some break or not in the following quad - they are both too competitive and too driven to rest on silver laurels already achieved. And in my opinion, they could really push the discipline more, make it even more 'evenly rounded', 'desirable'.
And Evgenia and Vladimir...I think that some people should try to differentiate subjective critics voiced towards their material, HOW their skill are presented in competition and plain hate, degrading them as athletes or degrade their skill (which is totally unacceptable) - at the end of the day, would they skate their FS lights out, no critic or personal prejudice could keep them from medalling. Saying that, for me there is no doubt about quite a difference between their presentation/program's composition and top 3 going all before them - ALL 4 teams have top-notch skills, yet by the way they were all displayed, some people really could feel Evgenia/Vladimir as less polished and less effective performers. The program was not up to their quality level, with great, fresh idea, but being very uneven as a design - in the end, it really seemed to take the best out of them, not making them the best. And that's a big sorry for me, because I am a fan of their talent. Another thing was them being too tentative, slow, cautious after first mistakes - the program is constructed in a very 'patchy' manner that demands high attitude and energy produced on the get-go, including the ending part, which is not so easy to achieve while being under pressure/nerves and having demanding content to execute. And the program was the same all season long - while other teams altered transitions, design (or programs altogether, like Canadians), I feel that this particular FS was too stagnant and too counted on a perfect execution to drive through with it to the top. I just hope that they won't beat themselves endlessly and enter next season with fresh perspective, renewed energy and maybe more their own input on their presentation to match their level of skill.
, like yesterday, sitting at work, going for a coffee in a couple of minutes...Still cannot wrap my head around what happened - I mean, how GREAT this final was?! So many performances to re-watch, so many emotions to re-vive, so many victorious moments, but podium has only 3 places and there were also heartbreaks...Like I said yesterday, the level in Pairs' discipline went incredibly high in the past quad, starting with couple of great pair teams who pushed several more, now resulting in such deep, versatile field that is not only about executing their elements, but creating MOMENTS of weight worth Olympic medal, like all 3 medallist teams did today. The most important thing about all of them? The fact that they seemed to ALL skating with gold medal in mind (I'd also include Valentina/Ondrej there, because man, did they have a poise and attack in everything they produced?! They are definitely mental champions for me, giving out the purest enthusiasm of performing in front of people and being so genuine in their hard work and expecting great results from it, not demanding it) - seeing them back-to-back, one after another, producing that level of exquisiteness showed how determined, focused, goal-oriented and willing they are. Such mindset, spirit, courage, competitive drive! And I agree about backstage outtakes - being heartbroken for Wenjing/Cong, totally understanding the sadness of having gold that close, yet that far, but over the moon for seeing Meagan and Aljona's camanderie, this pride floating all around, sense of accomplishment and fulfilment after rocky times and troubles. On the opposite - heartbreaking reaction from Evgenia on their scores and realization of missing a medal...But as many of You already wrote - were they on money technically today, the medal was totally theirs, despite all musical choice discussion. I hope they will stick around and expand more their talent, capabilities, skills in the next quad.I think that the biggest revelation for me from Pairs are Valentina and Ondrej, their attitude and approach towards every outing in particular. They really managed to somehow surpass this 'great entertainers' with showy programs label and become real contenders, aiming for the best. And it happened for me mostly because of those programs, this particular flair and style, often considered as 'cheesy' - them feeling so very comfortable really eased them technically/execution-wise I feel; as a result, they succeeded in pulling off memorable, vivid, engaged performance for audience AND making it effective in terms of placements, smashing (yet again!) their FS PB. One thing is to have a soul for performance, influencing every piece with skaters' character, but another one is to realize and accept it by judges, audiences as an integral part of a team, not 'boxing' them inside this one image of someone. Valentina and Ondrej lived up the music for me by so much personality input in every move, on the top of great execution of elements. I mean, what a progress, what consistency and solidness in delivering fantastic performances in a row! Their pure joy expressed by the whole experience is just infectious, and finally they become competition stars as big as they always were in their own stuff. The key thing, break-out one was also seeing them fluidly transitioning between solid execution of elements into character/expression mode - as they were far more tentative with elements before, such progress. Bravi, bravissimi!
Vanessa and Morgan did not produce maybe such 'big moment' like they did at Europeans last year with 'Sound of silence' FS, nonetheless it was solid and memorable performance for me. I think that they may approach this FS a tab bit too cautious and reserved, maybe that's just my impression, Vanessa definitely looked nervous after doubling 3S. Still, I think that this is one of those Pairs that are able to capture the spirit/mood of the music and translate it into skating amazingly, drawing people inside of the experience, regardless of technical issues and lead the performance to emotional climax/momentum along with piece of music. I honestly love their return to last season's free program, it has such impact that brings people closer to them, great to see it performed in front of the world
And now a bit of general remark about final group - the rivalry level was out of this world and kudos for all 4 teams to try their best in state of immense pressure of the event. I probably never saw teams responding by their performances that strongly one after another regarding first three programs in the final group; it really felt like all 3 were going for the win in their had and looking at Evgenia and Vladimir, they looked for me way more tense and cautious, which did not help the energetic vibe of their FS, regardless of our subjective feel about it in general. I think that the pressure got too much also to Wenjing and Cong, unfortunately - elements at the beginning were a bit off the mark, comparing to their previous outings of that FS; they still got back to their usual self later though, producing quality performance. Regarding this discussion about such small margin Chinese lost to Germans - well, I think that the former had a mistake margin after SP accommodating troubled sbs 3S (being Wenjing's nemesis) and maybe one/two level(s) lost on non-jump elements , but Cong's popped jump in sbs combo and more lost levels made things way harder. I think that there is no point to digest on jumps' issues, but I am really curious about those levels lost on pair spin and last lift - the lift in particular, which was usually one of their 'money' element I think, it would be amazing to have someone knowledgeable in Pairs' levels to maybe illustrate how those levels worked in their case. Saying that, I think that starting order make a bit of difference too (laugh as much as you want
) - I kind of sensed it already in Pairs SP thread that going first for Aljona and Bruno could really help them to loosen up and going for a moment and a performance to remember like they did at GPF: under the radar. Going first - and performing like they did - made them really set the bar and the tone for the rest of final group and not everyone lifted that weight up. And Chinese going after them, with mistakes left a very little room to manoeuvre which was then reflected in scores so close to each other. I wonder also now, if an argument could be made about Chinese being underscored in SP, which then could have an influence on total score - personally, I found their SP underscored in PCS comparing to others' performances, but not sure if more advantage in SP would be enough. At this point it is all 'coulda, woulda, shoulda' discussion. The fact is that Aljona/Bruno brought not only their A game, but whole alphabet game in this FS and it demanded adequate responses by other competitors.As for Aljona/Bruno's FS, I think that they both elevated each other and helped to carry pressure, tension and expectation experienced by both of them, I've never felt that one have lost another during the performance. It was almost like seeing them skating it alone in a bubble, the connection was very strong and very particular in my opinion - it was really about this one, specific moment, performance and presence there and now. The program itself its fantastic, but it can reach you physically quite deep while performed by them like today - the combination of this music building to a crescendo with grandiose, size of their movement kept me on the proverbial edge of my seat. I think that this surroundings, what happened in SP, the stakes made the whole performance way more intense and vivid than their GPF record performance in December, yet the execution, movement, connections felt almost feathery, delicate, blurred/blended. For me, this is one of a kind example of a program that demands an excellent work with movement's tempo and slow-motion technique operating - and today they really excelled in that, as the movement seemed to be hung in the sky in places. This FS is an exquisite result of Aljona/Bruno's development as a team, but also a prime example of how the discipline was pushed 'artistically', packaging-wise in past 4 years - the strive for a clean, solidly executed programs was way expanded by various teams, presenting different takes/styles than classical, statuesque and 'static' image of Pairs skating, bringing the discipline closer to 'now' than looking back how it was 'then', comparing stuff. Top 3, along with James/Cipres, Stolbova/Klimov, Marchei/Hotarek, Seguin/Bilodeau (to some extend, with great promise of progress) really took skating to another level of accessibility I feel, producing quality that captures crowds not only on the big occasions, quality that includes emotions and particularity/originality in style/choreography design/interpretation areas. I think that today's performance was a pinnacle of their hard work, effort and determination and a perfect, effortless blend of skill and beauty - prove that Pairs skating can be not only solid, but amaze people in deeper level, beyond sole visuals. While Aljona was finally crowned as a Queen officially with Olympic gold (being Queen of hearts by many people way earlier, including mine), Bruno conquered a lot more than just Olympic title I feel - he mostly shown an incredible strength of his mind, soul and a brave, courageous hart dedicated for the sport and competition; his selfless attitude and care about Aljona were visible/felt in his every move and gesture for me. He brought out emotions in himself that inspired many more in us.
Saying all the praise about German's victory, Meagan and Eric's triumph tasted even sweeter in my perception. This is for me the most competitively driven, spirited team of past quad, period - their whole career was all about improvement, climb to the top, despite hate, critic and discouragement, and their aim was always being on the top, not settling themselves for less, constantly pushing themselves to stay where they worked so hard to be. And yet again, the only team with such impeccable peaking ability - after rocky season, a season after Eric's injury and disappointing Worlds, season full of twirling around FS program they raised to the biggest occasion and proved their worth. The team which is so smart and conscious about their moves, plan - bringing back 'Hometown Glory' FS was the best decision possible, with whole aim to get Team gold medal and its successful memory. The team with broad experience consisting of good and the bad - always taking lessons from both and pushing forward, aiming for best, but never demanding it automatically. Both are for me role model hard workers, great, ambitious achievers and fantastic, compassionate competitors - I fell that this FS performance illustrated all those things I have in mind thinking of them. Their attitude, power in step, speed really elevated the program altogether, as this is for me a vehicle designed to highlight their best qualities: athletic, powerful presentation, unity between them while performing, putting their technical skill on display and engagement they have for the music and choreography. There was incredible maturity and composure, control displayed, even after those hands down in 3Lz at the beginning - lots of teams would go downhill from that, but not them. They kept raising the bar for themselves, pushing the tone of impact of their skating higher, especially after this historic 4Sth. I think that what set them apart and made the difference resulting in two medals is incredible confidence and belief in each other and their team in general, conviction in their material, decisions and work they are doing. What an amazing conclusion of their career, what a privilege to witness it and feel the energy, enthusiasm for the sportsmanship in general radiating from them. One last words about Meagan - the spirit, drive she has, an equal intense attitude for each performance really make difference and gives Eric strength to do the same; her passionate, dynamic personality fuels that partnership and really shapes it for the win - and today's bronze sure is a victory.
Despite issues in execution, I found Sui/Han's performance very intense, passionate and poised, in 'regal' sense of perception. I think that they perfectly translated the magnitude feel of the music/story into ice reality, competitive environment, with huge dose of emotion shared with audience and between them. I personally find 'Turandot' FS a perfect fit for presenting their variety and capabilities in terms of being delicate and powerful at the same time. Wenjing's fierceness is second to none - and I expected no other level of disappointment from her after scores appeared. Saying that, I still feel that the experience will motivate them going forwards, taking some break or not in the following quad - they are both too competitive and too driven to rest on silver laurels already achieved. And in my opinion, they could really push the discipline more, make it even more 'evenly rounded', 'desirable'.
And Evgenia and Vladimir...I think that some people should try to differentiate subjective critics voiced towards their material, HOW their skill are presented in competition and plain hate, degrading them as athletes or degrade their skill (which is totally unacceptable) - at the end of the day, would they skate their FS lights out, no critic or personal prejudice could keep them from medalling. Saying that, for me there is no doubt about quite a difference between their presentation/program's composition and top 3 going all before them - ALL 4 teams have top-notch skills, yet by the way they were all displayed, some people really could feel Evgenia/Vladimir as less polished and less effective performers. The program was not up to their quality level, with great, fresh idea, but being very uneven as a design - in the end, it really seemed to take the best out of them, not making them the best. And that's a big sorry for me, because I am a fan of their talent. Another thing was them being too tentative, slow, cautious after first mistakes - the program is constructed in a very 'patchy' manner that demands high attitude and energy produced on the get-go, including the ending part, which is not so easy to achieve while being under pressure/nerves and having demanding content to execute. And the program was the same all season long - while other teams altered transitions, design (or programs altogether, like Canadians), I feel that this particular FS was too stagnant and too counted on a perfect execution to drive through with it to the top. I just hope that they won't beat themselves endlessly and enter next season with fresh perspective, renewed energy and maybe more their own input on their presentation to match their level of skill.
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NBC’s sports app is showing the whole competition online and even with “enhancements” like elements listed out with scores, however they have a different set of commentators(!), and I’m getting a little tired of the unknown Australian lady, plus the amount of ads is maddening. Why not have the main team of Tara, Johnny and Tara call the whole thing, or Tanith and Scott for online? I’m just peeved that on primetime, they couldn’t be bothered to show the top 8 plus the Americans...would that have been so hard?
But thank you for the list! I will check it out
NO!!!!
The reason I am watching the livestream is to get away from the sideshow. Don't let NBC ruin it with the "we need to be the center of attention" commentators!
I want to add that S/H got more points in composition than S/M. :sarcasm:I think if something deserves a 10.00 in composition than this S/M FP.
S/M won because of the technical mark especially with their SBS jumps (unusal for Aljona). The judges were slightly on the Chinese side today.
S/M won because of the technical mark especially with their SBS jumps (unusal for Aljona). The judges were slightly on the Chinese side today.
Leslie Jones may be right. Coz I couldn't find a picture of Aljona out in daylight.
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A perfect, flawless, beautiful LP is worth more than a perfect, flawless, beautiful SP. The result seems 100% fair to me. And I stan HARD for Sui/Han, okay?? Turandot isn't the best LP they've ever had from an artistic perspective, and they had two mistakes on the jumps.
Aliona is a living legend. Four years ago, everyone (including me) was snarky and skeptical of her decision to keep skating with a new, young partner. But she believed she could do it, AND SHE DID. And kudos to Bruno for stepping up under the pressure after his mistake in the SP. The sense of catharsis he must be feeling is too real. Assuming Aliona will retire - where does he go from here? I hope Aliona stays involved in the sport - I'd love to see her develop skating in Germany as a coach.
I'm just so happy. Sui/Han will have their OGM in China in 2022, GOD WILLING. The sense of emotion between them when they skate is so authentic. I know Sui is the Empress of everything, but Han is also the best. They're perfectly matched on an emotional level. It kills me in the best way.
Not the biggest D/R fan in regards to their skating, but they're amazing people, they've accomplished a lot, and this bronze was 100% deserved. This was such a great moment for them and I was thrilled they got to win this medal before they retired.
Maybe T/M will leave Mozer one day. They seemed to have very little faith in themselves as they took the ice - maybe because they didn't trust their program? I don't know. They're young and they have so much more to give the sport.
Sound of Silence is my favorite program ever. The most beautifully choreographed thing. And Morgan SELLS it!!!! My love. I hope they both continue. They haven't quite peaked yet. I hope to see them win a world medal.
Valentina and Ondrej had an amazing debut year, then kind of trainwrecked all over the place with bad programs and many many mistakes. I didn't see them as much of a threat, but they improved throughout this season and peaked at the right time. So much fun, on the ice and in the Kiss and Cry!
Aliona is a living legend. Four years ago, everyone (including me) was snarky and skeptical of her decision to keep skating with a new, young partner. But she believed she could do it, AND SHE DID. And kudos to Bruno for stepping up under the pressure after his mistake in the SP. The sense of catharsis he must be feeling is too real. Assuming Aliona will retire - where does he go from here? I hope Aliona stays involved in the sport - I'd love to see her develop skating in Germany as a coach.
I'm just so happy. Sui/Han will have their OGM in China in 2022, GOD WILLING. The sense of emotion between them when they skate is so authentic. I know Sui is the Empress of everything, but Han is also the best. They're perfectly matched on an emotional level. It kills me in the best way.
Not the biggest D/R fan in regards to their skating, but they're amazing people, they've accomplished a lot, and this bronze was 100% deserved. This was such a great moment for them and I was thrilled they got to win this medal before they retired.
Maybe T/M will leave Mozer one day. They seemed to have very little faith in themselves as they took the ice - maybe because they didn't trust their program? I don't know. They're young and they have so much more to give the sport.
Sound of Silence is my favorite program ever. The most beautifully choreographed thing. And Morgan SELLS it!!!! My love. I hope they both continue. They haven't quite peaked yet. I hope to see them win a world medal.
Valentina and Ondrej had an amazing debut year, then kind of trainwrecked all over the place with bad programs and many many mistakes. I didn't see them as much of a threat, but they improved throughout this season and peaked at the right time. So much fun, on the ice and in the Kiss and Cry!
maybe that's what you'd do, but I don't see many people even criticizing T/M. Most say, their program is not good enough for their qualities.
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French tv calling Z/E utter classicism and charisma is an interesting choice of words.
My favourites were S/M but I felt they were held up in the short and thus that it maybe should have gone in favour of the Chinese. Programs are important at the Olympics apparently. Judges don't to make a lesser program win on the biggest stage. Even though Turandot has nice moments.
My favourites were S/M but I felt they were held up in the short and thus that it maybe should have gone in favour of the Chinese. Programs are important at the Olympics apparently. Judges don't to make a lesser program win on the biggest stage. Even though Turandot has nice moments.
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Look at the protocols, man. The judges were definitely willing to give it to Sui/Han, and it would have went to them too if not for the Technical controller. Just look at the GOE on both "dinged" spin and lift!
But that would 100% spark another Pairs judging controversy that nobody wants to witness again... except the media
. Can't speak for them, but doubt they would want the gold if it came with an asterisk.
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It's always been that way. The SP doesn't decide things, the SP doesn't 'create' the magic Olympic moment, it never does. Would S/M have skated the way they did if they had the pressure of winning that Gold? Or was skating first with a relatively low chance ,the best thing that could have happened to them? I think it's the latter and the stars were aligning.
Yes, I'm german and a fan of S/M. So take this with a grain of salt. But why exactly should Sui/Han have won the Olympic Gold medal? If you take their mistakes and take the mistakes S/M did, still Sui/Han come out with one more mistake. It's very simple and I don't get the outcry. If Sui/Han just had one mistake, doubling a jump, there could be an argument that they should have won. Like this, no. Sorry, but there is no controversary here, no matter how you twist it.
Nicely said!
I haven't read through all the 136 pages so I don't know if this point has been made before but... The way I think about it is that in Helsinki, Sui/Han were the ones with one major error (fall on 3S in FS) and S/M were the ones making a couple of "minor" errors (double footed throws both in SP and in FS), and the result was that S/H won by a narrow margin.
Now Bruno had that one costly jump error (pop in SP), whereas S/H had a couple of back-to-back "minor" jump errors (a "small" pop and a step-out in FS), and the result was that S/M won by a narrow margin.
Seems like the judging & outcome is consistent, if you compare these 2 top teams in Helsinki vs in Pyeongchang in this light.
There was somebody who claimed to have heard that Bruno was planning to probably retire after this season (for reasons that were more personal in nature) but Aljona still was thinking of continuing her competitive career. But we'll see how they'll feel and what they decide after this emotional rollercoaster of a season is over.
And this, from the previous page:
From press conference
Aloyna and Bruno moving gifs
On ice after skating
http://sa.uploads.ru/4ybml.gif
http://s9.uploads.ru/veEZt.gif
After total results
http://s3.uploads.ru/BIdLF.gif
Megan hugs Bruno https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/964010554775035909/-DpwtA9Z?format=jpg&name=600x314
Aloyna and Bruno moving gifs
On ice after skating
http://sa.uploads.ru/4ybml.gif
http://s9.uploads.ru/veEZt.gif
After total results
http://s3.uploads.ru/BIdLF.gif
Megan hugs Bruno https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/964010554775035909/-DpwtA9Z?format=jpg&name=600x314
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