2018 Olympic Figure Skating Ladies FS

[MiRé]

Medvedeva has a better claim to the gold than Yuna ever did let that sink in.

LOL That's not even the point. This is the exact situation in 2014 where so called ARTISTRY that current Russian fans are complaining has D-I-S-A-P-P-E-A-R-D. I'm fine with the results, and I'm sure Russian Fed is fine too given if Med were to win from "Artistic" component, it'll go against what they have been preaching, which is TES > PCS. I'm done feeding trolls

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Am I the only one who thought Mirai’s Waltz Jump deserved some points and positive GOE? :dance:

 

[chopinskate]

I will take Shizuka Arakawa's spiral, ina bauer, strong edges and flow, and controlled regal quality over the flailing and meaningless movement seen here. I will take the grace and beautiful positions and genuine surprise exuded by Sarah Hughes. The jubilation of Tara Lipinski. The introspective genius of Mao Asada. The soul-baring radiance of Lu Chen. The body fluidity of Oksana Baiul. The extension and vividness of Sasha Cohen. The sheer starpower of Katarina Witt. The detailed class of Kristi Yamaguchi. The unbelievable raw strength of Midori Ito and Tonya Harding. The total mastery of Michelle Kwan!!

All of this next to your custom title is :sad21::sad46:

(agree with everything about who should've won, as usual)

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Am I the only one who thought Mirai’s Waltz Jump deserved some points and positive GOE? :dance:

It was enormous!

 

[Shayuki]

Am I the only one who thought Mirai’s Waltz Jump deserved some points and positive GOE? :dance:

Waltz jump's base value is 0.20 in the categories where it's allowed(Generally girls around 4-5yo).

But of course, a +3 GOE Waltz jump is still something to be proud of.

 

[judeluo]

To me the results were mostly expected, and there was absolutely no upset whatsoever. Of the top ladies, Sotoko stood out with endearing musicality but the judges are never going to give her the PCS she deserves becoz of her lack of jumping prowess. Kaetlyn sold her program well and secured her bronze medal even before her final spins. Then between Zhenya and Alina, the latter always boasts a technical advantage, if both are to skate clean, to makes up for the PCS disadvantage. And the final scores are on point: a virtual tie in the LP and Alina won by virtue of her technical scores in SP. To me Alina's moment came when she added 3loop to her 2nd lutz after missing the first jumping combo -- the height and sheer determination of that loop made me cry out "Yes, that is it!". Interestingly, pre-COP rules would have awarded the gold to Zhenya (higher artistic mark in the LP and 1st in LP means 1st overall). And as compared to Sochi, this is a better example of the shift towards the technical side. After all, this is the Olympics and I can only applaud those decisions.

 

[MiRé]

To me the results were mostly expected, and there was absolutely no upset whatsoever. Of the top ladies, Sotoko stood out with endearing musicality but the judges are never going to give her the PCS she deserves becoz of her lack of jumping prowess. Kaetlyn sold her program well and secured her bronze medal even before her final spins. Then between Zhenya and Alina, the latter always boasts a technical advantage, if both are to skate clean, to makes up for the PCS disadvantage. And the final scores are on point: a virtual tie in the LP and Alina won by virtue of her technical scores in SP. To me Alina's moment came when she added 3loop to her 2nd lutz after missing the first jumping combo -- the height and sheer determination of that loop made me cry out "Yes, that is it!". Interestingly, pre-COP rules would have awarded the gold to Zhenya (higher artistic mark in the LP and 1st in LP means 1st overall). And as compared to Sochi, this is a better example of the shift towards the technical side. After all, this is the Olympics and I can only applaud those decisions.

Then how did Tara win? lmao

 

[Tigerlily87]

Then how did Tara win? lmao

Ugh. Let’s not discuss that disaster

 

[Yatagarasu]

Sigh.

Yet another crime against figure skating, called Alina Zagitova's PCS. Crime.

What a nonsense of a competition. It was preordained she had to win, win she did. That PCS .... way to completely, completely destroy the meaning of one mark. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they make her the scapegoat now for a lot of the incoming changes. Not that that'll change a thing, in some ways, they have the potential to just make it all worse. But she has her OGM so she better rake it now if she has any brains.

I also laugh at all of those who think Alina is somehow ill-done by Eteri. She made her into an OGM, such as she is. If anyone should leave, it is Medvedeva, not that she will. But since she's staying in skating, at least she'd get better programs and someone could work with her to improve the jumps a bit.

Oh well. Don't think I'll watch ladies any time soon, this skipping was justified and probably saved me a lot of nerves. Individual videos in this day and age are a blessing.

Mao Asada isn't an OGM but Alina Zagitova is. I still cannot. Cannot. No.

 

[slider11]

Ironically, I think that if Zagitova skated last, Medvedeva may have had a chance to win. I don't think anyone will argue that Medvedeva had the best artistic interpretation. But because of her wonderful jumps, the judges translated artistic wonderful to Zagitova and gave her mid 9s. By the time Medvedeva came along, the judges were boxed in with only high 9s to 10s and some, curiously, stayed with the low-mid 9s. This is just one more example of how technical proweress is automatically translated to artistic proweress. Alina skated very well and was a good "Don Quixote". But Alina's skate did not have the heart and soul of Medvedeva's.

I hope the isu considers further training of its judges in discerning the component mark.

 

[judeluo]

Then how did Tara win? lmao

What is there to laugh about? Did I even bring Tara in the mix here? Mine was a statement based the scores the judges dished out. Tara also won based on her technical scores (whether her 2nd marks are deserved has been debated to death and I have no intention to talk about it anymore), but her battle vs Michelle is nowhere near the same as two Russians here, despite some similarities.

 

[elbkup]

Agree, agree, agree. Why has no one picked up on this before? That music cut is awful. And I dislike the calculated method of milking points with tano jumps etc (like Sotskova and her ugly arm position), also the miming and facial expressions.

Hate me, everybody, but I actually chuckled when Med cried.

And I was a huge Kristi Yamaguchi fan back in the day.

And there are those who will hate me for saying it... Med lost PCS on the tacky traIn whistle at the end..

 

[LeeJiHye19]

I feel like almost all ISU judges in figure skating has something against Satton. I know that she is not the best jumper but they are always so harsh in scoring her

 

[yexiu]

People will probably disagree with me, but I see a lot of ppl heartbroken over the results and I understand why. However, being a fan of neither Med or Zagitova my personal opinion is that you can't really complain about the PCS score for Zagitova when Med literally had the same thing happen to her when she moved to senior, her PCS just flew out of proportion. I especially do not agree with the GOEs Med gets when she has barely any speed and flow out of her jumps. I also do not appreciate Zagitova backloading her program either. Zagitova should not have been scored so high on PCS with that program, and neither should Med, I personally think Med is better than Zagi, but not by a large margin, both of their programs are not classics I would watch over and over again, both look "manufactured by Eteri"...Not to be mean. If it's down between Zagitova and Med, at this point is really who skates the best on the day of, given that Zagitova has higher TES, and Med was not called on her Lutz, I think the result between the two was right. Of course you could argue about the PCS, but I do no think either deserved such high PCS at all.

 

[leafygreens]

Ashley really did get the last laugh. I love it.

How? She would have been 12th with her SB.

 

[Ziotic]

I’m just happy Kaetlyn’s PCS were higher than Alina’s in the long.

Also, having Ashley here for USA would have made literally no difference. She would not have been top 6.

 

[Shayuki]

I feel like almost all ISU judges in figure skating has something against Satton. I know that she is not the best jumper but they are always so harsh in scoring her

It indeed is pretty weird seeing her low PCS. Sure, call the URs and penalize her for them, but why is the PCS so low?

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Unpopular opinion but Osmond should have been gold

Not too unpopular given the 27 Thumbs Up so far!

Under 6.0 she very likely would have been awarded gold. But under IJS, she deserved only bronze. The top 2 OARs destroyed everyone technically.

I wish Osmond were credited more for her jumps being vastly superior to the Russians, but they do add more difficult features (arms) and transitions in/out of them to make up for it. It's something Osmond can improve on.

 

[Seren]

I am still so heartbroken for Med. I couldn't watch (I was volunteering at Synchro Nationals. Yay Synchro!) but followed along watching the scores. Watching the skates this morning is both joyful and sad. I hope Med lets this motivate her- I think she will. I love her long program and thought it was a beautiful and mature step forward. We've seen Evegnia the ingenue, now we get to see her really develop into a mature skater. She is still among the top in the world- nothing will take that away from her.

On a random note I was happy to see Dabin did so well. I hope we see her further develop her skating- she is beautiful to watch.

 

[largeman]

Your post made me nostalgic. You forgot the sassiness of Yuna though, and her effortless, balletic 3-3's. A golden post nonetheless!

:noshake: This poster doesn't "forget" anything
I think he left out Yuna intentionally!

 

[theteez]

Wow Kaetlyn finally skated that long program of hers beautifully when it mattered. What's promising is that even with that awkward lutz she received 152+ - she's now in the Russian zone of scoring and so well-deserved! Top spots just got more interesting!!