2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Jontor]

Any news on Sotskova and Leonova?

Sotskova had a bad last season and this season was even worse. Any chance for her to get a Challenger next season?

Leonova won the Sankt Petersburg Cup this season, but then got injured (I think?) and didn't participate at the Russian Cup group stages. Will she be back?

 

[Happy Skates]

Anyways, I'm going to make my own GP predictions since that seems to be the trend right now

Trusova - 2
Kostornaya - 2
Shcherbakova - 2
Zagitova - 2 (she says she's returning so I'll believe her until she says otherwise)
Medvedeva - 2
Tukt - 2
Sinitsyna - 2
Samodurova - 2 (she still has that top 24 WS spot, and she's a European champion so I imagine RusFed will submit her)
Vasilieva - 1/2 (depending on those listed below - her and the girls above are the only ones on the top 24 lists, so it would work out to give them all 2, however she's 24th on the list and didn't go to either nationals so she's on the cusp)

alternates

Konstantinova - 25th on the WS list - she could get a spot if RusFed wants her to, and usually I would say they would because she has been their extreme favorite, but she was taken off of the reserve team so maybe she is not their favorite anymore? I'd say its 40/60 that she gets one
Tarakanova - 25th on the SB list - sadly, I can only see her getting one if one of the above girls doesn't end up competing, but she is 25th on the list and oh so close to being one of the "guaranteed" spots.

 

[Jontor]

What? Of course she deserves spots! Ksenia did make the Junior Grand Prix Final actually, and just missed making the podium (she could've been on the podium with her performance and no one would've batted an eye - it came down to judges opinion imo, same as the situation with 2019 junior worlds where she also competed and got fourth), in addition to winning a JGP event this year and getting silver to Kamila at another. She also got a silver at the Youth Olympic games. In addition, she placed 5th at senior nationals (and in the free program she got fourth, beating Liza).

But most importantly to GP spots, she is 14th on the SB list with a score of 215!!...

She is even 11th...

 

[eterislouisvuitton]

What? Of course she deserves spots! Ksenia did make the Junior Grand Prix Final actually, and just missed making the podium (she could've been on the podium with her performance and no one would've batted an eye - it came down to judges opinion imo, same as the situation with 2019 junior worlds where she also competed and got fourth), in addition to winning a JGP event this year and getting silver to Kamila at another. She also got a silver at the Youth Olympic games. In addition, she placed 5th at senior nationals (and in the free program she got fourth, beating Liza).

But most importantly to GP spots, she is 11th on the SB list with a score of 215!!! Being on the top 24 SB list in general guarantees you at least one spot and usually two unless you're Russian, but 11th is another level - its almost unheard of that someone that high on the SB list doesn't get two senior GP spots. 215 is an incredibly high score and it would be ridiculous if someone with that score didn't get spots. After the top 6 seniors, I'd say she's first in line to get the spots that Sotskova and Sakhanovich are leaving behind.

Also, generally the Russian cup series doesn't really have an effect on GP spots (national results don't have too much of an effect in general, but if any national competition were to have an effect it would be Nationals, not the Russian Cup which isn't too important of a competition in the grand scale of things). I know I keep saying this but I'm not sure why people think Guliakova will get a spot when she's not on SB list at all and very low on the WS list. She is talented, but winning the Russian Cup when none of the main senior competitors were there doesn't mean much.

Add Konstantinova to that.

And as for Guliakova, she was 6th at nationals, 1st at the cup final, coached by Mishin, and has a triple axel. This year has less depth than last year - Konstantinova, Sotskova, Sakhanovich, and possibly Zagitova are leaving 4-6 spots open and Sinitsyna and Vasilieva who are coming up only have points to fill 3 of those spots. So if not Guliakova, who?

Little moment for my girl Nastya Tarakanova. IMO robbed out of silver at JGP Baltic and if she had gotten silver then she would've made JGPF and be getting a GP event, but that doesn't mean Vasilieva wouldn't be battling it out with Guliakova and Samodurova for her GP spot. Now let's hope the fed gives her a challenger and she can make good use of it.

Correction: Anna Frolova was 6th at nationals, but she is too young and doesn't have enough points/high SB anyways. Though I think that I am one of the few that actually enjoys her as a skater.

 

[Scott512]

Rinks in Moscow (and elsewhere) is going to be opened for pro athletes soon. (Well, sambo 70 is open for gymnasts(alina was training there) so why not ice?)

Considering that Putin was openly unhappy about athletes not training for such long time.

What? Of course she deserves spots! Ksenia did make the Junior Grand Prix Final actually, and just missed making the podium (she could've been on the podium with her performance and no one would've batted an eye - it came down to judges opinion imo, same as the situation with 2019 junior worlds where she also competed and got fourth), in addition to winning a JGP event this year and getting silver to Kamila at another. She also got a silver at the Youth Olympic games. In addition, she placed 5th at senior nationals (and in the free program she got fourth, beating Liza).

But most importantly to GP spots, she is 11th on the SB list with a score of 215!!! Being on the top 24 SB list in general guarantees you at least one spot and usually two unless you're Russian, but 11th is another level - its almost unheard of that someone that high on the SB list doesn't get two senior GP spots. 215 is an incredibly high score and it would be ridiculous if someone with that score didn't get spots. After the top 6 seniors, I'd say she's first in line to get the spots that Sotskova and Sakhanovich are leaving behind.

Also, generally the Russian cup series doesn't really have an effect on GP spots (national results don't have too much of an effect in general, but if any national competition were to have an effect it would be Nationals, not the Russian Cup which isn't too important of a competition in the grand scale of things). I know I keep saying this but I'm not sure why people think Guliakova will get a spot when she's not on SB list at all and very low on the WS list. She is talented, but winning the Russian Cup when none of the main senior competitors were there doesn't mean much.

Not enough. If you can't medal at he Junior Grand Prix final you certainly don't deserve two senior Grand Prix events. It doesn't mean she's not really good or isn't going to be really good. But the Russian Field is just too deep to give to senior Grand Prix events to someone who isn't even a force on the junior circuit and didn't even make the worlds team on the junior level.

 

[Scott512]

Any news on Sotskova and Leonova?

Sotskova had a bad last season and this season was even worse. Any chance for her to get a Challenger next season?

Leonova won the Sankt Petersburg Cup this season, but then got injured (I think?) and didn't participate at the Russian Cup group stages. Will she be back?

Didn't they retire? Masha moved on after her father tragically died and I think is at University. I thought Leonova even announced their retirement but I could be wrong. Leonova has shown the Russians that you can skate quality performances for a very very very long time.

And didn't the original Nastya G. win the St Petersburg Cup this past season beating Stasya Serafima and Nastya G2 in the proces. I remember because she scored almost 220 points which is by far the highest scoring I've ever seen of her. I remember reading the article two and one of the Russian papers. Is there more than one St Petersburg cup?

 

[sparklestan]

Not enough. If you can't medal at he Junior Grand Prix final you certainly don't deserve two senior Grand Prix events. It doesn't mean she's not really good or isn't going to be really good. But the Russian Field is just too deep to give to senior Grand Prix events to someone who isn't even a force on the junior circuit and didn't even make the worlds team on the junior level.

Ummm if in order to have two GP spots you have to medal at the JGPF then technically Anna should not have gotten 2 GP events this season because she was only 5th at her JGPF.
I like Anna a lot so I think it would have been a shame for her not to get 2 GP events, especially considering how well she ending up doing in them.

 

[readernick]

Not enough. If you can't medal at he Junior Grand Prix final you certainly don't deserve two senior Grand Prix events. It doesn't mean she's not really good or isn't going to be really good. But the Russian Field is just too deep to give to senior Grand Prix events to someone who isn't even a force on the junior circuit and didn't even make the worlds team on the junior level.

SB scores are what determine GP spots. So, it is enough. I would be sad if Ksenia didn’t receive GPs her SS and choreography are several steps above the crowd. Honestly, though, I think this whole conversation is likely pointless. Are there even going be be GPs? The travel restrictions in place make it very unlikely.

 

[Happy Skates]

Not enough. If you can't medal at he Junior Grand Prix final you certainly don't deserve two senior Grand Prix events. It doesn't mean she's not really good or isn't going to be really good. But the Russian Field is just too deep to give to senior Grand Prix events to someone who isn't even a force on the junior circuit and didn't even make the worlds team on the junior level.

The official rules that state that you are guaranteed a spot if you are in the top 24 SB list disagree with you. She literally had the 11th highest total score of the season, beating many seniors, Russian and otherwise, that will get 2 GP spots. Do you not see how impressive that is? And thats with the limitation of junior scoring, if she'd had a choreo sequence she could've even been higher on the list.

And as for the depth of the Russian field, I ask you, what Russian lady other than the core 6 (3A + Tukt + Zagitova + Med) would you give GP spots over Sinitsyna? No one you can name other than those 6 beat her at Russian Nationals or on the SB list. So who is it in this deep Russian field should get GP spots over her? I am genuinely curious who you will say.

As for needing to be a "force" on the junior field (if you don't consider a JGP title, 2nd at Youth Olympics and 4th at both JGPF and Jworlds a force), then that hasn't proved to be true in the past. Samodurova and Panenkova both got 2 GP spots without being "forces" on the junior circuit (neither of them medalled at the major events, or even made it to junior worlds like Ksenia did in 2019). And yes, Ksenia made Junior Worlds in 2019 (she even got fourth and it was debatable whether or not she actually deserved bronze but it was definitely close) , so your statement about her not making the junior world team is false. Just because this past year had three junior "forces" moving up doesn't mean that everyone who moves up every year has to have a junior world title or something.

 

[Jontor]

SB scores are what determine GP spots. So, it is enough. I would be sad if Ksenia didn’t receive GPs her SS and choreography are several steps above the crowd. Honestly, though, I think this whole conversation is likely pointless. Are there even going be be GPs? The travel restrictions in place make it very unlikely.

I fear that too. I would actually be surprised if we will get a GP tour this year. But let's hope for the best hey? Hope is good. There is still a chance the ISU will get something done.

 

[Happy Skates]

Add Konstantinova to that.

And as for Guliakova, she was 6th at nationals, 1st at the cup final, coached by Mishin, and has a triple axel. This year has less depth than last year - Konstantinova, Sotskova, Sakhanovich, and possibly Zagitova are leaving 4-6 spots open and Sinitsyna and Vasilieva who are coming up only have points to fill 3 of those spots. So if not Guliakova, who?
.

I see your point, but I still don't think GP spots will happen for her. She was 7th at nationals, and the cup final doesn't really mean much when the main senior contenders weren't there (it only meant something last year because they needed a skate off for Medvedeva and Tukt). And the triple axel we've really only seen in practice lately, and you could say that about a lot of Russian ladies. It only really means something once you do it in competition, preferably somewhat consistently. As for your question of who, I'd say that Vasilieva could be given more than one (she is in the top 24 so if she gets one, its totally possible, and even likely, that she could get 2). Or Konstantinova could get 1/2. If she is submitted by RusFed, she would probably get at least one, considering she is 25th on WS and they always go at least a little past the top 24 on both lists. Same for Tarakanova who is 25th on the SB list. I just think that RusFed will submit enough skaters that all 18 spots will be assigned initially leaving no room for a host spot to be assigned later, which is the only one Guliakova is eligible for. Thats what happened last year. Even though its not as deep this year, there are still enough ladies with guaranteed spots to fill up all 18 without RusFed having to rely on a host spot. Plus, RusFed will want as many girls as possible to have two spots so as many girls as possible have a shot at GPF. If, for example, Vasilieva is only assigned one in the initial draw, they would probably give her a second as the host spot (exactly what happened with Samodurova in 2018). Guliakova can't have two because she is only eligible for the host spot, so imo its unlikely she'll even get one.

 

[eterislouisvuitton]

Didn't they retire? Masha moved on after her father tragically died and I think is at University. I thought Leonova even announced their retirement but I could be wrong. Leonova has shown the Russians that you can skate quality performances for a very very very long time.

And didn't the original Nastya G. win the St Petersburg Cup this past season beating Stasya Serafima and Nastya G2 in the proces. I remember because she scored almost 220 points which is by far the highest scoring I've ever seen of her. I remember reading the article two and one of the Russian papers. Is there more than one St Petersburg cup?

I believe Masha went on hiatus after going through tough times after her father passed. She mentioned somehting about herself existing, not living so it's good that she's taking time to herself. She left it open whether or not she finisehd her career, but I think unfortunately she is done.

As for Leonova, she could be another one of those who just never really announces a retirement, like many others. I'm not sure where she is.

 

[Scott512]

The official rules that state that you are guaranteed a spot if you are in the top 24 SB list disagree with you. She literally had the 11th highest total score of the season, beating many seniors, Russian and otherwise, that will get 2 GP spots. Do you not see how impressive that is? And thats with the limitation of junior scoring, if she'd had a choreo sequence she could've even been higher on the list.

And as for the depth of the Russian field, I ask you, what Russian lady other than the core 6 (3A + Tukt + Zagitova + Med) would you give GP spots over Sinitsyna? No one you can name other than those 6 beat her at Russian Nationals or on the SB list. So who is it in this deep Russian field should get GP spots over her? I am genuinely curious who you will say.

As for needing to be a "force" on the junior field (if you don't consider a JGP title, 2nd at Youth Olympics and 4th at both JGPF and Jworlds a force), then that hasn't proved to be true in the past. Samodurova and Panenkova both got 2 GP spots without being "forces" on the junior circuit (neither of them medalled at the major events, or even made it to junior worlds like Ksenia did in 2019). And yes, Ksenia made Junior Worlds in 2019 (she even got fourth and it was debatable whether or not she actually deserved bronze but it was definitely close) , so your statement about her not making the junior world team is false. Just because this past year had three junior "forces" moving up doesn't mean that everyone who moves up every year has to have a junior world title or something.

11th highest score where? Some small Junior Grand Prix event with 50 people in the crowd? Um okay. Ksenia is like the #5 Junior in the world best case scenario so no way does the number 5 jr. In the world deserve 2 senior Grand Prix events in ladies Russian figure skating. But at this point I'm like a cat chasing its tail and will cease. Good luck to KS in her debut season whenever it is. Probably 2021.

I will tell you this if she gets breaks like Stasya got she better take advantage of them unlike Stasya. Stasya is very beautiful and a lovely skater and the sweetest girl. But her lack of belief and mental toughness really cost her when she had her golden opportunities. It will be interesting to see if ksenia will be the same way since she is known to have meltdowns. Only time will tell.

I feel like I'm being negative tonight so I must apologize and headed back to watching Baywatch the movie on a Spanish Channel. Yes I'm learning Spanish tonight.

 

[Scott512]

I believe Masha went on hiatus after going through tough times after her father passed. She mentioned somehting about herself existing, not living so it's good that she's taking time to herself. She left it open whether or not she finisehd her career, but I think unfortunately she is done.

As for Leonova, she could be another one of those who just never really announces a retirement, like many others. I'm not sure where she is.

I lost my father this year and I'm still recovering and he was much much older than Masha's father. My dad had been ill with cancer for two years and we knew the end was near. With Masha it was such a shock. So tragic. I can't imagine what it would be like to be a world-class athlete and go through that and trying to figure out if she wants to continue in her sport or not. And Maria for a ladies figure skater is so very tall at 5 feet 8 inches tall. I wonder if she thinks most of the great skaters or around 5 ft tall if she's just too tall to compete with in these days. Whatever she does I hope she's happy.

As for Leonova she may do what Adelina did and just not making an official announcement for a few years. Believe It or not Adelina Sotnikova only retired officially in the last few months. It still bothers me that the Federation held her out of Worlds 2014 because she never got another chance. And it still bothers me that the Federation sent Alina to world after she was sick and tired after her perfect debut season until worlds. She never should have been there after the Olympic rush and then being sick and tired. All the media attention to it just wore her down. She should have been better protected.

 

[Happy Skates]

11th highest score where? Some small Junior Grand Prix event with 50 people in the crowd? Um okay. Ksenia is like the #5 Junior in the world best case scenario so no way does the number 5 jr. In the world deserve 2 senior Grand Prix events in ladies Russian figure skating. But at this point I'm like a cat chasing its tail and will cease. Good luck to KS in her debut season whenever it is. Probably 2021.

I will tell you this if she gets breaks like Stasya got she better take advantage of them unlike Stasya. Stasya is very beautiful and a lovely skater and the sweetest girl. But her lack of belief and mental toughness really cost her when she had her golden opportunities. It will be interesting to see if ksenia will be the same way since she is known to have meltdowns. Only time will tell.

I feel like I'm being negative tonight so I must apologize and headed back to watching Baywatch the movie on a Spanish Channel. Yes I'm learning Spanish tonight.

Sorry but I must respond once more.

Ksenia is not the #5 junior "best case scenario". According to the SB list, she is the second best junior, only second to Valieva who isn't even eligible for seniors. And before you say her SB score came from some little JGP, every single junior got to compete at a "little JGP with 50 people watching". I also wouldn't necessarily say that JGP scores are inflated, but if that is your premise, then at all juniors are at least on an equal playing field. That being said, I don't buy your attempt at discrediting her 11th SB score. Every single competitor, junior and senior, had a chance to compete at an inflated event, whether that be a small challenger, or a JGP. And junior events tend to have lower scoring of components than senior, in addition to the lost element, so its even more impressive that she got to the 11th position at "some small JGP event". There's no getting around the fact that her scores consistently fall amongst the best in the world, and the best in Russia.

Even more important, is that most of the top juniors (top 4 at junior worlds) aren't eligible to move up to senior next year. So Ksenia is almost undoubtedly the top junior eligible for moving up. The only other top junior lady I can think of eligible to move up is Haein Lee, and Ksenia beat her at the JGPF and on the SB list. Even if you somehow think Haein should be ranked above her, Ksenia is undoubtedly the top Russian junior eligible to turn senior.

But once again I ask, what Russian lady would you say "deserves" two GP spots over Ksenia other than the top 6?. I can guarantee that there are far less qualified/ talented girls from Russia that have been given 2 spots. Plus, she got 5th at Russian nationals, and 9 Russian skaters can be given 2 spots. That alone should prove that she "deserves" it.

good luck on your Spanish

 

[Scott512]

Sorry but I must respond once more.

Ksenia is not the #5 junior "best case scenario". According to the SB list, she is the second best junior, only second to Valieva who isn't even eligible for seniors. And before you say her SB score came from some little JGP, every single junior got to compete at a "little JGP with 50 people watching". I also wouldn't necessarily say that JGP scores are inflated, but if that is your premise, then at all juniors are at least on an equal playing field. That being said, I don't buy your attempt at discrediting her 11th SB score. Every single competitor, junior and senior, had a chance to compete at an inflated event, whether that be a small challenger, or a JGP. And junior events tend to have lower scoring of components than senior, in addition to the lost element, so its even more impressive that she got to the 11th position at "some small JGP event". There's no getting around the fact that her scores consistently fall amongst the best in the world, and the best in Russia.

Even more important, is that most of the top juniors (top 4 at junior worlds) aren't eligible to move up to senior next year. So Ksenia is almost undoubtedly the top junior eligible for moving up. The only other top junior lady I can think of eligible to move up is Haein Lee, and Ksenia beat her at the JGPF and on the SB list. Even if you somehow think Haein should be ranked above her, Ksenia is undoubtedly the top Russian junior eligible to turn senior.

But once again I ask, what Russian lady would you say "deserves" two GP spots over Ksenia other than the top 6?. I can guarantee that there are far less qualified/ talented girls from Russia that have been given 2 spots. Plus, she got 5th at Russian nationals, and 9 Russian skaters can be given 2 spots. That alone should prove that she "deserves" it.

good luck on your Spanish

We shall see. No doubt she will get lots of opportunities. Let's see what she can do if she gets a chance and by that I mean if there's an actual season. I actually wish they would start the season with the world championship so they don't miss another one which is entirely possible if the coronavirus comes back in the winter.

 

[Skuratov]

I don't think this is how the spots will be allocated (although I do think it is how they should be). Rika and Bradie are the top two ranked skaters in the World, and I'm sure those federations will advocate for have them be the highest seeded skaters on the GP. Sasha and Alena are both in the 4-6 group, so they wouldn't meet each other whether your method or the world standings are used. Anna could face one of her talented teammates, but not Rika, using world standings. The drawback is that one or two events might have a weaker field, for example if Bradie and Kaori are the two skaters from the top 6.

Almost centainly Rika gets NHK and Bradie Skate America.
Top 6 seeds can only meet once in the 6 GP stages. For example: If Bradie and Sasha are assigned to Skate America they can't meet again in the remaining 5 GP events.
With that in mind, thinking that the RusFed does not want to directly face their top three skaters to reach the GPF, I made this arrangement of possible confrontations:
1. Rika
2. Bradie
3. Anna GP (1,2,3,4,5,6): I didn't name the Events, so you can call GP3:CoC, Rostelecom, etc.
4. Sasha
5. Kaori
6. Alyona


GP1 GP2 GP3 GP4 GP5 GP6
1 2 5 2 1 4
3 4 6 3 6 5

And you can replace 3 GP Events with this arrangement:

GP GP GP
1 2 3
4 6 5

In such a way that Ana, Sasha and Alyona do not face each other. Alina, Samodurova, Tuktamysheva and Zhenya are not top 6 seeds, so they can go with T-Sh-K two times at the same GP event.

 

[AshWagsFan]

Almost centainly Rika gets NHK and Bradie Skate America.
Top 6 seeds can only meet once in the 6 GP stages. For example: If Bradie and Sasha are assigned to Skate America they can't meet again in the remaining 5 GP events.
With that in mind, thinking that the RusFed does not want to directly face their top three skaters to reach the GPF, I made this arrangement of possible confrontations:
1. Rika
2. Bradie
3. Anna GP (1,2,3,4,5,6): I didn't name the Events, so you can call GP3:CoC, Rostelecom, etc.
4. Sasha
5. Kaori
6. Alyona


GP1 GP2 GP3 GP4 GP5 GP6
1 2 5 2 1 4
3 4 6 3 6 5

And you can replace 3 GP Events with this arrangement:

GP GP GP
1 2 3
4 6 5

In such a way that Ana, Sasha and Alyona do not face each other. Alina, Samodurova, Tuktamysheva and Zhenya are not top 6 seeds, so they can go with T-Sh-K two times at the same GP event.

I think it will go as follows if they seed it based off of world standing:


1. Kihira picks NHK, Canada
2. Bradie picks America, IDF
3. Anna gets Russia, China
4. Sasha gets NHK, IDF
5. Kaori gets China, America
6. Alyona gets Russia, Canada

This could be totally wrong, I have no idea and am guessing based off of where these skaters have gone in the past/their home country

Then, the other three Russian ladies can potentially get the following assignments:
Zagitova-China, IDF
Tuktamysheva-America, NHK
Medvedeva-Canada, NHK

Some of the other skaters that would draw 2 events:
Bell-Canada, Russia
Miyahara-America, NHK
Higuchi-Russia, China
You-China, NHK
Lee-America, IDF
Chen-NHK, China

Again, I’m pretty much clueless (as everyone is ) but it would be interesting to see where everyone is assigned! I also have no idea of what Russia will do with its other spots.

 

[Tolstoj]

I see your point, but I still don't think GP spots will happen for her. She was 7th at nationals, and the cup final doesn't really mean much when the main senior contenders weren't there (it only meant something last year because they needed a skate off for Medvedeva and Tukt). And the triple axel we've really only seen in practice lately, and you could say that about a lot of Russian ladies. It only really means something once you do it in competition, preferably somewhat consistently. As for your question of who, I'd say that Vasilieva could be given more than one (she is in the top 24 so if she gets one, its totally possible, and even likely, that she could get 2). Or Konstantinova could get 1/2. If she is submitted by RusFed, she would probably get at least one, considering she is 25th on WS and they always go at least a little past the top 24 on both lists. Same for Tarakanova who is 25th on the SB list. I just think that RusFed will submit enough skaters that all 18 spots will be assigned initially leaving no room for a host spot to be assigned later, which is the only one Guliakova is eligible for. Thats what happened last year. Even though its not as deep this year, there are still enough ladies with guaranteed spots to fill up all 18 without RusFed having to rely on a host spot. Plus, RusFed will want as many girls as possible to have two spots so as many girls as possible have a shot at GPF. If, for example, Vasilieva is only assigned one in the initial draw, they would probably give her a second as the host spot (exactly what happened with Samodurova in 2018). Guliakova can't have two because she is only eligible for the host spot, so imo its unlikely she'll even get one.

I really hope Gulyakova gets a spot, cause you could see she worked a lot last season to make progresses and she made them throughout the season, especially with the victory at Cup Final i think she earned it.

On the 3a the one she showed in practice at the Cup Final just few months ago was very good, she is known for working on 3a since she was 12-13, and she is coached by Alexei Mishin, known for his axel technique.

It's a similar trajectory to Liza Tuktamysheva who showed her 3a when she was 11 but only did it in competition since 2015.

 

[Happy Skates]

I actually wish they would start the season with the world championship so they don't miss another one which is entirely possible if the coronavirus comes back in the winter.

I was actually thinking the same thing! If they can't do the GP, but are ready for competition in December, then they could just substitute what would have been the GPF for a 2020 Worlds (and still aim to do the 2021 Worlds in March). That way all thats lost is a GP season.