That's why I'm wondering about the 2 other judges, who both placed Slutakaya 2nd in the LP and Kwan 3rd, yet both had Slutskaya below Kwan on the second mark. It's possible they voted as such because they felt Hughes deserved to win the Gold, and that was the only way to make it happen.
If reputation is so important in this sport how could Sotnikova win? She has had never won any World title, any GPF title, any GP title, only a B event title. So how it is possible?
Edit: She has had not even medaled at Worlds or GPF. Only at GP events.
Unlike Sarah Hughes who medaled at Worlds and GPF. And won a GP event.
What matters is how they ranked Slutskaya and Kwan against each other, to determine who places 2nd or 3rd in the LP. 6 of the judges sided with Slutskaya, and 4 of them had her 1st, so those 4 clearly wouldn't change their opinion. That's why I'm wondering about the 2 other judges, who both placed Slutakaya 2nd in the LP and Kwan 3rd, yet both had Slutskaya below Kwan on the second mark. It's possible they voted as such because they felt Hughes deserved to win the Gold, and that was the only way to make it happen.
Either that, or that's really how they felt they should be ranked based on the LP performances. While that isn't how I would have ranked them, I think the ordering is defensible. Hughes was clean and had the the 3-3's, Slutskaya was clean-ish but didn't have 3-3's, while Kwan had the fall and another possible two-foot, also with no 3-3. Irina and Michelle were clearly tight, and different people have varying opinions about the extent to which the nerves affected their performances (and the second mark they deserved).
I cannot find it now, but there was an article in which Joe Inman explained in detail how and why he scored the Ladies LP (for the top 4 skaters). He thought Sarah Hughes clearly had the performance of the night. He went into the most detail with Michelle Kwan and Irina Slutskaya's ranking. It was fascinating to realize just how complicated the judging was under 6.0. I really don't know how they could keep it all straight.
What I remember most was this was the first time that Sarah Hughes had done 2 3-3's in a program. Also that her coach had revamped the LP significantly since US Nationals. Even though the odds were pretty astronomical for her to win Gold, I believe the result was correct.
I say the odds were astronomical not just because she was 4th after the SP. But in the LP she just barely squeaked out 5 1st place ordinals. I think one judge even had her in 4th place. The stars really aligned correctly for her that night.
Of course, under COP coming from 4th place after the SP to win has become fairly common.
I'm pretty sure it was in the one TSL interview I've ever watched.
Thank you very much. But I also remember it was in a newspaper article at the time of the SLC Olympics.
Is it ths article? OLYMPICS: THE VERDICT; At Last, The Judges Are Able To Explain
Thank you very much. I think that must be it. I remembered incorrectly, though. I thought it was just Joe Inman who was interviewed. This is even better because it showed the thought process of a number of judges.Is it ths article? OLYMPICS: THE VERDICT; At Last, The Judges Are Able To Explain
Thank you very much. I think that must be it. I remembered incorrectly, though. I thought it was just Joe Inman who was interviewed. This is even better because it showed the thought process of a number of judges.
I cannot find it now, but there was an article in which Joe Inman explained in detail how and why he scored the Ladies LP (for the top 4 skaters). He thought Sarah Hughes clearly had the performance of the night. He went into the most detail with Michelle Kwan and Irina Slutskaya's ranking. It was fascinating to realize just how complicated the judging was under 6.0. I really don't know how they could keep it all straight.
Now you could call that far fetched, but like you said Blades, And i know you're a reasonable person
If you're these 2 judges, And Irina is 1st heading into the free, Do you still rank her above Kwan,
And give Slutskaya the win instead of Hughes?
All things considered?
What does an error mean? I found Lysacek's choreography to be a pretty huge error. It's just not how skating is judged. And I don't see how he made fewer errors than Plushenko anyway.
Ha ha as a someone with no idea of how the scoring system works I watched Plushy at Vancouver with mad respect, thinking "OMG how did he land that?! That's incredible! He laughs in the face of gravity!" I also liked his costume the best, so my judgement is definitely questionable.
To be honest the only time I side eyed an Olympic result was the Pairs at Salt Lake, I truly believe Elena and Anton deserved to win outright, they were stunning. Also the commentators outright favouritism of P/S and them going on how the "Totally deserved it, no-one could think otherwise" made me go "What were you guys watching?"
I disagree with the US Olympic Team for 2014. Mirai Nagasu is a 3 time Olympian in my eyes.
Which broadcast were you watching?
I remember that in the USA Scott Hamilton made a point of emphasizing the slight error of B&S in the LP.
Which was ironic because in 1994 he downplayed a couple of small errors from G&G's LP.
And he made a point of showing that Grinkov's technique in throw jumps was smoother than Dmitriev's as a mitigating factor.