2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Novalis]

In insta stories there is the schedule now for stage 5 in Russian. Someone will probably post an English version somewhere quickly, but seems like this (all times Moscow):

Ladies SP Saturday 5th December 16.15-17.45
Ladies FP Sunday 15.15-17.00
Jr. Ladies SP Monday 16.20-18.00
Jr. Ladies FP Tuesday 16.00-18.45

Does it make sense that Jr FP lasts so much longer than Jr SP?

Edit: The source is fsrussia.ru https://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/competitons/2021/5etap2021_competition_schedule.pdf

 

[flanker]

In fskatingworld insta stories there is the schedule now for stage 5 in Russian. Someone will probably post an English version somewhere quickly, but seems like this (all times Moscow):

Ladies SP Saturday 5th December 16.15-17.45
Ladies FP Sunday 15.15-17.00
Jr. Ladies SP Monday 16.20-18.00
Jr. Ladies FP Tuesday 16.00-18.45

Does it make sense that Jr FP lasts so much longer than Jr SP?

Time for the FS can include a medal ceremony or so.

 

[MissBeeFarm]

EDIT: You mustn't forget that also Sasha has been successful with "weaker" quads than Anna's 4F. There's a lot of points difference there. Sasha hasn't yet landed her 4Lz this year, which is a pity, because that is the money bringer...

That's not correct

 

[Jontor]

Some interviews with Alina Gorbachiova and Valeria Shulskaya.

Alina GORBACHEVA - Live chat with Elina Permyakova (17/11/2020)

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Valeria SHULSKAYA - Live with Elina Permyakova (10/11/2020)

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I like Shulskaya! Can someone give a breif summary of the interview?

And...have you guys noticed Shulskaya's procedure when she goes on the ice?
She wipes her blades, checks her earrings - and then she goes... Every time the same

 

[Jontor]

That's not correct

You're right! She landed the 4Lz at Stage Four! My mistake.

Well, then it is even more remarkable that she is not further ahead of Anna in scores...

 

[kirauza343]

Anna’s also benefitted from some very generous scoring (others have had inflation as well but I’d argue Anna’s benefitted the most) which narrows the gap.

 

[Lzbee]

Surely stage 5 is Valieva's to lose? Kostornaia doesn't have the tech to be a threat to her at the moment and I think they'll put Valieva with a fall over Tuk? This is assuming that Tuk has three 3A and a 4T. If she doesn't have the 4T then she's going to have a hard time against Valieva who has 3A and 4T.

 

[zanadude]

I find it hilarious, that they keep pretending GPF might take place this year... Like, only 4 events took place, and no one sane would sign up for this, why are they still in denial?

Because the Chinese can host a Grand Prix Final where they sweep the podium in all events?

 

[Jontor]

I think Valieva probably will win Stage Five...

My thoughts.

1, Valieva - I can't see her get beaten here honestly, even with a bad skate.
2. Kostornaia - I think Rostelecom was a wake up call for Alëna. She will fight for this.
3. Tuktamysheva - She has a slim chance of beating Kostornaia again but I don't think it'll happen - unless she brings a quad!
4. Sinitsyna - I HOPE and PRAY that she is ready for competition here. But is she fit enough?
5. Tsibinova - I expect her to be here. She needs it to be at RusNats.
6. Guliakova - I wasn't impressed at Rostelecom. Can beat Tsibinova but I doubt it.
7. Tarakanova - Has potential to go higher, and she probably needs that to q for Nats.
8. Sultanmagomedova - I expect her to be here too, and she can relax as she is almost certain for Nats, but she can upset things in this stage!!

 

[Flying Feijoa]

I think Valieva probably will win Stage Five...

My thoughts.

1, Valieva - I can't see her get beaten here honestly, even with a bad skate.
2. Kostornaia - I think Rostelecom was a wake up call for Alëna. She will fight for this.
3. Tuktamysheva - She has a slim chance of beating Kostornaia again but I don't think it'll happen - unless she brings a quad!
4. Sinitsyna - I HOPE and PRAY that she is ready for competition here. But is she fit enough?
5. Tsibinova - I expect her to be here. She needs it to be at RusNats.
6. Guliakova - I wasn't impressed at Rostelecom. Can beat Tsibinova but I doubt it.
7. Tarakanova - Has potential to go higher, and she probably needs that to q for Nats.
8. Sultanmagemedova - I expect her to be her too, and she has a great chance for RusNats and upset things!

I really hope Tarakanova can make it to Nationals! Do we know what minimum placement she needs at Stage 5?

Has anyone seen Svetlana Panova at all this season? The Snow Leopards have been very quiet so far - I wonder if Sinitsyna's absence has something to do with her coaching/training environment, besides injury.

 

[Supernovaimplosion]

If Valieva tries the 3A in the short and falls, it could her behind in the short (like Trusova when she first tried it). And she doesn't have as much quads in the free to fall back on as Trusova did have, so if she makes mistakes it might be difficult. That being said, I do expect her to win, because she'd have to make a lot of mistakes and the others be perfect. Do you think she'll do a 3A in the free, too? I wonder who the first (senior) Russian lady to do a 3A and and quads in the free skate will be. I'm eager for it.

 

[Jontor]

I really hope Tarakanova can make it to Nationals! Do we know what minimum placement she needs at Stage 5?

Has anyone seen Svetlana Panova at all this season? The Snow Leopards have been very quiet so far - I wonder if Sinitsyna's absence has something to do with her coaching/training environment, besides injury.

Tarakanova needs to be about 6th or 7th at Stage Five.

But if Medvedeva and/or Sinitsyna gets a free ticket to Nats, then Tarakanova needs to be higher...and it will be a tough fight between Tarakanova, Shulskaya and Konstantinova for RusNats.

 

[Lzbee]

If Valieva tries the 3A in the short and falls, it could her behind in the short (like Trusova when she first tried it). And she doesn't have as much quads in the free to fall back on as Trusova did have, so if she makes mistakes it might be difficult. That being said, I do expect her to win, because she'd have to make a lot of mistakes and the others be perfect. Do you think she'll do a 3A in the free, too? I wonder who the first (senior) Russian lady to do a 3A and and quads in the free skate will be. I'm eager for it.

She doesn't have as many quads but she has high pcs and goe which is much more reliable. Her 3A looks pretty stable so I don't see why they wouldn't add it in the FP too. Maybe it'll depend on the one in the SP. If she lands it, she'll try for another. If not, play it safe.

 

[Jontor]

She doesn't have as many quads but she has high pcs and goe which is much more reliable. Her 3A looks pretty stable so I don't see why they wouldn't add it in the FP too. Maybe it'll depend on the one in the SP. If she lands it, she'll try for another. If not, play it safe.

Agree. Like Kostornaia last year, Valieva can fall back on great GOEs and PCS, which is a huge advantage. Tech isn't everything these days, and Kostornaia proved that last season when she got an average of 9-10 more points in GOE per competition than Anna and Sasha.

 

[silveruskate]

Valieva can fall on the 3A and it's still 3 points as long as it's rotated, compared to 4.5 for the 2A. Take away 2 points from her 85 and it's still way higher than any other skater can achieve in this competition.

4T-2T
4T
3A
3Lo
3Lz-3T
3F-eu-3S
3Lz

If I had to predict her Olympic FS layout it would be this, and it's an amazing layout. They might try for 2 3As but I don't think she needs to take the risk. I hope she goes for it at Stage 5 because if she does, we might be watching her Olympic performance.

 

[NAOTMAA]

She doesn't have as many quads but she has high pcs and goe which is much more reliable. Her 3A looks pretty stable so I don't see why they wouldn't add it in the FP too. Maybe it'll depend on the one in the SP. If she lands it, she'll try for another. If not, play it safe.

If she wants it ready come Olympic time now is the time to try and go for it. Get all the nerves and kinks of doing it in competition worked out. It looked really good in the practice so I don't see any reason not to.

Besides they keep cancelling all the competitions there won't be many chances to try it out.

 

[chasingneverland]

Does anyone know what the BV difference is in Sasha's planned skates and Anna's? Actually, just out of curiosity, where do Kamila, Liza, and Alena stand too?) With their current planned skates? Not what they could add or anything haha.

 

[Jontor]

Does anyone know what the BV difference is in Sasha's planned skates and Anna's? Actually, just out of curiosity, where do Kamila, Liza, and Alena stand too?) With their current planned skates? Not what they could add or anything haha.

Anna's BV free skate from Stage Three 73.68
Sasha's BV free skate from Stage Four 89.82

That was the planned BV, with all level 4s of course. They both failed to reached that BV.
But with what they delivered, Anna got +16.27 in GOE and Sasha got +11.69 (9.69 really as she had 2 falls on top of that).

IMO, Sasha is reaching for the stars, but she should settle and be content with reaching the moon. THEN she will be clean AND win.

 

[chasingneverland]

Anna's BV free skate from Stage Three 73.68
Sasha's BV free skate from Stage Four 89.82

That was the planned BV, with all level 4s of course. They both failed to reached that BV.
But with what they delivered, Anna got +16.27 in GOE and Sasha got +11.69 (9.69 really as she had 2 falls on top of that).

IMO, Sasha is reaching for the stars, but she should settle and be content with reaching the moon. THEN she will be clean AND win.

Thanks! Anyone know Liza's and Kamila's (and Alena's)? That's actually closer than I thought it would be.

 

[Jontor]

Thanks! Anyone know Liza's and Kamila's (and Alena's)? That's actually closer than I thought it would be.

BVs with level 4s:

Liza at Rostelecom - 67.97

Kamila at stage 2 - 74.31

Alëna at Rostelecom - 63.85

(If I have calculated correctly that is... )