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Um... Didn't Anna do 4 Lzes last year - 2 4Lz and 2 3lz, plus one 4F and 2 3F?
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No, Anna's 2x 4Lz layout was:
4Lz+3T, 4Lz, 2A, 2A // 3Lz+3Lo, 3F+1Eu+3S, 3Lz (so the same as what Sasha did yesterday)
And her three-quad layout was:
4Lz+3T, 4F, 2A, 4Lz // 3Lz+3Lo, 3F+1Eu+3S, 3Lz
She doesn't repeat the 3F in either of those. You might be thinking of the one-quad layout she did at test skates, where she only did one 4Lz and got to repeat both 3Lz and 3F.
4Lz, 3F+3Lo, 2A, 2A // 3Lz+3T, 3F+1Eu+3S, 3Lz
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Nope. Sasha actually pretty much has Anna's exact composition from last year, until she upgraded. Once she upgraded, she did 4Lz+3T, 4F, 2A, 4Lz, 3Lz-3Lo, 3F-Eu-3S, and 3Lz. So she doesn't zayak because she only repeats 2 jumps. She only does 1 4F and 1 3F.
EDIT: So because Sasha can only do one type of quad right now, and can't do a 3A, she's at her maximum, otherwise she zayaks. (2As don't count for the zayak rule.)
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I'm confused. I thought zayaking was only significant to a level. e.g triples and quads are separate just like doubles are from triples.
4Lz+3T, 4Lz, 2A, 2A // 3Lz+3Lo, 3F+1Eu+3S, 3Lz. In this layout, she repeats the quad Lz but for triples, she only repeats the 3Lz. How does repeating the quad affect triples?
Men are able to do repeat a quad and still do 2 3As. like Misha repeating 4T and 3A.
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No, Zayaking applies to triples and quads. Repeating quads counts (only repeating doubles doesn't, like 2As).
EDIT: It's partially why popping a quad is so bad. It's also why crashing on a combo is so disastrous.
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But men are able to do repeat a quad and still do 2 3As. like Misha repeating 4T and 3A. How is that different?
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It's not different at all. You're allowed to repeat two jumps. That's the same thing. You can do 2 of any quads or triples - so basically pick two jumps - any two jumps/you're favourite two jumps (doesn't matter if they're triples or quads) - and you can repeat both of them. (It doesn't apply to doubles).
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So, just to be sure I'm understanding clearly you can only repeat two jumps (above doubles) in a program. Either of those 2 jumps can be a triple or a quad?
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Yup!!
So because Sasha repeats her 4Lz and 3Lz she can't repeat any other triple jump so she has to do a 2nd 2A (unless she does a 3A (because she hasn't done it before) or another type of quad) but she's injured and can't do any other type of quad or 3A so she's maxed out, unless she backloads her quads.
EDIT: It's also why Kamila does a 4T-2T, because she already does two 4Ts and two 3Lzs so can't do two 3Ts as well and why she is learning a 3A. Adding a 3A is the only way she can upgrade her program without learning another quad.
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Just to add on: You used to be able to repeat two quads, up till 2018 I believe. Now you can't, it's either two triples, or one triple or a quad.
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Yup. I forgot that haha partially because it doesn't yet apply to women really (or even men for that matter haha only Nathan is really limited by it haha most do 3As anyway as the second repeated jump). Only Sasha and Anna could even attempt it now anyway. (Sasha with her repeated 4Lz and probably 4Ts and Anna with her repeated 4Lz and 4Fs but both of them only just got combos on the second ones so.. lol.) It's why being able to do more than one jump is so important and why Sasha keeps trying to do different quads and working on her 3A. Because otherwise they're maxed out.
EDIT: It's also why popping is so bad and falling on your combo without getting the combo. Not only are you losing points but you have to be careful not to zayak.
EDIT2: It's also why a 4 Lz program - like 2 4Lz and 2 3 Lz - is so rewarding (it scores really high) but risky. Because no matter what you don't want to pop the 4Lz. It's also why you'll see skaters crash their quads to get the rotations in because at least those count as quads so they won't zayak. It's also why downgraded quads don't count as triples in the system - although they used to which was doubly bad because not only were you losing points you also had to figure out midskate if you were in danger of zayaking and then adjust your program accordingly on the spot. And it's hard to know if judges would count it as merely underroated or downgraded especially while you're skating.
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Qualifying for a spot on the junior grand prix. Trying new elements in a competition atmosphere.
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Those are ice creams! all there for Yabokov and Erokhov to eat
Old-school Russian ice creams used to come either in a waffle-cup (which would be a generic no-flavor ice-cream) or tin-foiled like this (plombir ice cream). I‘m not sure whether that’s still the case, I haven’t been to Russia for a minute.
That company probably was appealing to nostalgic feelings, packaging their ice creams old way.
Close to my office there is a shop with russian specialities, they sell those ice creams among other things. I buy them often in the summer, they are very delicious
I remember seeing them for the first time in an airport in Moscow and thinking "why would they have frozen corn dogs in the airport?"
Alas quickly after I realized it was ice cream, bought it to try, and certainly it's not the best ice cream (honestly wouldn't make my top 20 even) but now I feel even more connected to the Russian competitions because of it.
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That's actually not true at all. Anna for example has a 4Lz and 4F but doesn't have her 4T anymore. She used to be able to do in combo (tacking on a 3T-3Lo just for the fun of it) but since she broke her leg she isn't able to do it at all. The jumps have a different supporting leg.
Also a not 100% Anna who hadn't done any full runthroughs before landed a 4Lz and 4F and was seen practicing a 4F-3T. I have no problem believing that an injured Sasha would also be able to land a 4Lz-3T despite being injured. She's a little firecracker!!
EDIT: Also Sasha HAS skated a clean 4 quad program. It just hasn't been very often but she's more than capable of it.
Also a not 100% Anna who hadn't done any full runthroughs before landed a 4Lz and 4F and was seen practicing a 4F-3T. I have no problem believing that an injured Sasha would also be able to land a 4Lz-3T despite being injured. She's a little firecracker!!
EDIT: Also Sasha HAS skated a clean 4 quad program. It just hasn't been very often but she's more than capable of it.
Now Pluschenko has all the rights in Universe to attack Chrystal Dome.
They apparenntly pushed FFKKR to deny Trusova the World Team at least till further local tournaments passed. She cannot make necessary preparations and undergo medical procedures but instead has to participate in three more tournaments.
Cool decision.
But I adore the level of support the C/D provides for their skaters.
Per todays FFKKR decision only the winners of RusNuts are uplifted to the Worlds (if happens).
They apparenntly pushed FFKKR to deny Trusova the World Team at least till further local tournaments passed. She cannot make necessary preparations and undergo medical procedures but instead has to participate in three more tournaments.
Cool decision.
But I adore the level of support the C/D provides for their skaters.
Per todays FFKKR decision only the winners of RusNuts are uplifted to the Worlds (if happens).
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Can you link the article please (doesn't matter if it's in Russian)?
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