S.A. Zhuk Memorial - Russian Novices Nationals (younger age) - 10-14 March 2021, Saransk

[Shayuki]

Kostyleva got lvl2 today? I thought she tend to get lvl4...Anyway, I cant’t tell the level from bare eyes, but her edge and flow looks better then Krivonosova, who had two obvious stumble today. Krivonosova definitely has better choreo and expression though, and that helped a lot.

Kostyleva usually gets lvl 2, sometimes rarely 3. Krivonosova sometimes gets 3, others 4.

Still I think the difference's quite clear, if I look at them doing the same step sequence in elements:

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Kostyleva's probably better at doing the Loop turns, but Krivonosova maintains momentum and control of her upper body far better through other turns, and even though PCS isn't even factored in during elements she can perform seamlessly during the StSq.

It probably misleads a bit that Krivonosova's SP StSq is far more difficult than Kostyleva's, so of course Kostyleva seems more effortless. But take the entry into the Lutz with the rocker and counter by Krivonosova - it's not sure Kostyleva can even do such a thing while maintaining momentum. And Krivonosova makes it look so effortless.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

They are not in the same age group though.
Krivonosova 2009-2010
Prineva / Sarymsakova / Taisya 2010-2011
Kostyleva 2011-2012

I think Prineva with her rotation speed could seriously get some quads under Eteri.
Krivonosova better not...I want to see more great programs from her

I actually never knew Krivonosova was a in the age group above them.

Im actually really exited to see how Kostyleva will do next season under TT and also Bazylyuk who transferred some time after test skates while she might not be the best of her age group I really like something about her skating and she has actually improved under TT so I do think she could go far.

 

[PavelSky]

They are not in the same age group though.
Krivonosova 2009-2010
Prineva / Sarymsakova / Taisya 2010-2011
Kostyleva 2011-2012

I think Prineva with her rotation speed could seriously get some quads under Eteri.
Krivonosova better not...I want to see more great programs from her

Krivonosova is most interesting because she will be 15 y.o at the next olympic season 2025-2026

 

[anonymoose_au]

ZOMG! I love Maria D's green dress!

Petition for more green in FS

 

[MaggieLin]

Kostyleva's probably better at doing the Loop turns, but Krivonosova maintains momentum and control of her upper body far better through other turns, and even though PCS isn't even factored in during elements she can perform seamlessly during the StSq.

It probably misleads a bit that Krivonosova's SP StSq is far more difficult than Kostyleva's, so of course Kostyleva seems more effortless. But take the entry into the Lutz with the rocker and counter by Krivonosova - it's not sure Kostyleva can even do such a thing while maintaining momentum. And Krivonosova makes it look so effortless.

You are truly an expert on steps! I did indeed enjoy Krivonosova’s stsq from two days ago more. I think Kostyleva did her stsq better at Moscow championships month ago.

Anyway, I’m not worried about these two’s skating skills at all. They’re both inherently talented in that regard. Krivonosova already integrate her steps and performance so much better than the older age groups. And for Kostyleva, she’s two years younger and she has time to develop...(glad she finally has a stable training environment)

 

[brakes]

Krivonosova is most interesting because she will be 15 y.o at the next olympic season 2025-2026

Unless she switches to Summer Olympics!

 

[Shayuki]

You are truly an expert on steps! I did indeed enjoy Krivonosova’s stsq from two days ago more. I think Kostyleva did her stsq better at Moscow championships month ago.

Anyway, I’m not worried about these two’s skating skills at all. They’re both inherently talented in that regard. Krivonosova already integrate her steps and performance so much better than the older age groups. And for Kostyleva, she’s two years younger and she has time to develop...(glad she finally has a stable training environment)

Well, she's a year and 4 months older if we don't exaggerate. But of course the essence of what you're saying is true, and Krivonosova wasn't nearly as good a year ago as she's now. I think Kostyleva's more naturally talented at steps, but Krivonosova's more naturally talented as a performer. Though I think Kostyleva's a very talented performer as well, Krivonosova's just something else.

Krivonosova is most interesting because she will be 15 y.o at the next olympic season 2025-2026

Yeah, while neither of the CSKA girls will, Krivonosova being a June 2010 birthday. Both the good CSKA girls are late 2010s.

 

[Novalis]

A really nice moment with Sarymsakova, Prineva

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMW0XBwoz5y/

 

[Shayuki]

That's probably why she was not under my radar. She and especially her short hit me like a thunder this season!

I get some really cool vibes from that coach, maybe he choreographed SP himself?

For the age group it's ridiculously advanced. Even Eteri girls don't have programs like this. Usually you can see what's going on on first time watching, but this program has just so many little details, with the entire body. And especially the hands, fingers, gestures.
On the other hand, Krivonosova's FS is ancient, I think she had it in the 18-19 season already... It's a nice program of course, but very simplistic in comparison to the SP and next season I'd hope she gets a new one.

 

[anonymoose_au]

Well it's nearly midnight here in Australia so I have to head off to bed.

Cheer Sofia T for me!

 

[MaggieLin]

Well, she's a year and 4 months older if we don't exaggerate. But of course the essence of what you're saying is true, and Krivonosova wasn't nearly as good a year ago as she's now. I think Kostyleva's more naturally talented at steps, but Krivonosova's more naturally talented as a performer. Though I think Kostyleva's a very talented performer as well, Krivonosova's just something else.

Of course, by 2 years I mean 2 competitive years. In this sport, being born in the “right” time could determine a lot. For Kostyleva, it means she gets more time to develop her skills. And for Krivonosova, well, she might be able to go to the Olympics at age 15.

 

[Novalis]

Okay, I shall now watch the rest of this. This is the main event for me, older girls, free program. Davai, Dashenka! You're my favorite of all girls (except for Kamila of course), show us your best!

 

[Shayuki]

I get some really cool vibes from that coach, maybe he choreographed SP himself?

And about the coach. They used to post many cool videos. I liked this one:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnx6Y3Uhq7l/

Sadly the acc has been mostly inactive since late 2019, although they started posting again after Krivonosova went on the winning spree this year.

 

[Novalis]

Unless she switches to Summer Olympics!

Oh, I would like to be doing this! Could I possibly match up to Alyona

 

[brakes]

And about the coach. They used to post many cool videos. I liked this one:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnx6Y3Uhq7l/

Sadly the acc has been mostly inactive since late 2019, although they started posting again after Krivonosova went on the winning spree this year.

Wow, this girl likes jumping a lot.

 

[Novalis]

Come on Sofia! Make Freddie proud!

 

[Azikin]

Come on Sofia! Make Freddie proud!

She did!

 

[Shayuki]

Well, the final two groups are around and it's time to focus on this. Even though I don't think that this age group's as talented as the younger one. But Marasanova I at least quite like.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Marasanova gets barely any distance in her jumps

 

[Mariiiiskate]

oh dear it was going so well