Please, Liza is a reigning World silver medalist and former World Champion while Alysa is a first year international senior who hasn't as yet shown any outstanding skills in the PCS department. Liza should always have the upper hand in PCS in that constellation based on reputation alone (and reputation is a significant part of PCS judging).
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It's possible but not certain. Maybe Elizaveta belongs in a group with Rika and Alysa, it's hard to say. They'll probably all have triple axels but who knows what else. We havent seen Alysa compete in a while and Rika has been struggling with injuries. But Elizaveta hasn't always brought a triple-triple to the free skate.
Alysa competed yesterday at the Virtual Peggy Fleming Trophy. It’s an artistic competition, with no quads allowed, but there is a definite improvement to Alysa’s skating skills and speed.
to be fair, she has improved A LOT if you see her most recent performance at the Peggy Fleming trophy. I'd say that as of now, Alysa looks more polished in comparison to Liza. And I say this as someone who used to find her skating unwatchable.
That "last time" was during the half of april (15-16), when Lyuba won Mozer team Cup. Elena competed for the last time at the start of may, when the vacation of the team already started. So she (and her family) simply continued during may and took vacation now. It's not surprising that not every skater and his/her parents can afford to have that different cycle with vacation in may and camp during the summer, esp. at this subtle age. Remember that Lyuba is 12 and Elena is 9. If parents of those young girls have to take their vacation a different way, they can hardly leave their kids for so long without them. Yes, they would be in camp, but what if the injury comes, or illness. Older skater surely can be left on his own, but not girls of that age. It's not the conspiracy and makes no reason for speculations.
| Shcherbakova | Tuktamysheva | |
| CS Lombardia SP PCS | 30.64 | 31.76 |
| CS Lombardia FS PCS | 64.32 | 64.24 |
| GP America SP PCS | 31.69 | 30.86 |
| GP America FS PCS | 67.96 | 64.30 |
| GP China SP PCS | 33.43 | 31.86 |
| GP China FS PCS | 67.82 | 66.50 |
Of the skaters of similar age there were Alisa Dvoeglazhova (12) and Daria Sarymsakova (11 next month) present at camp for full legth (AFAIK). There are others who weren't, apart from those named here also Margarita Baziliuk (10). I don't see any mystery behind it.
Well, I guess we'll see how they measure up against each other at Skate Canada. I still can't imagine that Alysa in her first senior year will have any significant PCS advantage over Liza, but then again, stranger things have happened in figure skating.
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We will find out when the new season starts i guess.That's not a guarantee at all. Reputation judging is a thing. Yes. But a lot of that is based on how the national Fed itself ranks their own skaters. That's where a lot of the influence and politics comes from - a lot of that is who the federation itself is politicking FOR. Yes, Alysa is a first year international senior but judges have shown in the last couple years that they are NOT hesitant to reward first year seniors - Alina, Alena, Sasha, Anna, etc all got amazing PCS incredibly rapidly as first year international seniors. Second of all, it would be foolish to ignore Alysa's own international reputation and results. She's the reigning Junior World's bronze medalist and the reigning JGPF silver medalist. She's already proven she can beat and challenge several of Russia's best skaters. She's also a two time US national champion. That IS actually the type of first year international senior pedigree that DOES get good PCS, especially if the USFed politics for her, like Russia does for their top skaters, regardless of if they're first year seniors or not. I mean take a look at the World Team Trophy PCS. Anna's have been increasing steadily and now she's a 3x RusNat champion and reigning World Champion AND her federation backs her. Liza however she didn't get a PCS boast following her World's silver medal. In fact, she was scoring below Kaori (whom she beat at World's) and comparable to Rika (who had a watered down messy skate.) Now that's NOT to say that Alysa WILL be a PCS darling. However, there is NO indication that Liza has ever been either, even following her World's silver medal. Russia only politics for her when they have to and not to any great extent - ie. when Alena wasn't ready for Worlds or when Sasha had a disastrous short. In fact, Liza's PCS DIDN'T rise AT ALL following her World's silver to the World Team Trophy.
Very true. However, I don't see Alysa planning 3+ quad programs. Sasha has plenty of time with two quads to perform a beautifully artistic program.
Another thing too could be that some of camp was dedicated to learning and choregraphing new programs. They might not have needed to be there for that.
