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2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

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I saw this online somewhere and it's really cool; so I know that people have had questionable opinions about Sasha's FP dress, but it actually has the names of her dogs written on it. :)
I saw that too. So lovely. I actually love her dress. It's fierce. Totally in keeping with the Cruella theme. Probably undergo some changes. They usually do .
 
I think I can agree on that. But I see it the optimistic way way that it keeps promises for the further competitions ;)
Also when you realize that in fact all three have injuries/are recovering from injuries, then their performances look even better.
True about the three Russian ladies having dealt with injuries and skating a pretty high-quality is a good sign.
 
Kseniia though... It's time for me to riot. What was that 64 PCS. I would have her at 67 at least, if we're being relative to the others. In contrast to the SP, I love her FP music and that multi-directional spin was glorious. I hope she can get some time with a jump specialist though as they are teeny tiny and I think that's affecting her PCS (zzzz judges :rolleye:). Also, flutzes not being called really affects her as her lutz has a great outside edge.
Totally agree. Given that senior debutants usually never get that much love from judges, it was kinda expected. But it doesn't make sense when the judges embraced Daria here, and in Budapest Khromykh, and at Lombardia Liu.

I always roll my eyes when people are talking about Eteri bonus, but here I might agree. Kseniia is a wonderful PCS skater and here she was judged 8th!!
 
Fantastic start to the GP season!

Loved it!

So the scores for the contenders for an Olympic ticket is so far...

Valieva 249
Tuktamysheva 233
Trusova 232
Khromykh 224
Shcherbakova 222
Kostornaia 218
Usacheva 217
Sinitsyna 205

This doesn't mean much at this point. But I think it was good for Sasha to have a clean skate today and showing that she is a contender with only one quad.
Usacheva and Sinitsyna can probably raise their scores by 10+ points, but I don't think that will be enough to be an Olympic contender.

We'll see, it's still early days...
in some ways it was the best possible situation for sasha. if she had gone out and hit a 4-quad freee and won by 30 points that at the end of the day doesn't really matter. she won and she proved she can win without all those quads and not at 100% healthy. so that actually will only help her confidence.
 
Kseniia though... It's time for me to riot. What was that 64 PCS. I would have her at 67 at least, if we're being relative to the others. In contrast to the SP, I love her FP music and that multi-directional spin was glorious. I hope she can get some time with a jump specialist though as they are teeny tiny and I think that's affecting her PCS (zzzz judges :rolleye:). Also, flutzes not being called really affects her as her lutz has a great outside edge.
Comparing to the other top skaters she is slow and lacking a power in her elements and overall skating. I don't want to diminish her performance because she has some very lovely qualities as delicacy and attention to the details, but if you can find those recorded videos from the arena of the skaters performances, which will give you a better look of the judges point of view, you will see the reason... And to be fair, both Lzs and Fs of the other skaters were called this time...
 
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Congrats to Sasha, Daria, and Kseniia for their great performances!

Sasha's short was fantastic, I think that was the best she's ever skated in terms of performance. I will say that I didn't enjoy her free skate nearly as much though. She landed everything and the jumps were pretty solid, but it just seemed like her head was somewhere else. Hopefully she'll be able to rest that foot now and come back strong for her next event!

I think Daria's short program was the performance of the weekend for me. She was SO stunning and everything looked so easy. Sadly, her trademark second half of the free skate errors made their return. She was very lucky to hang on to silver; personally, I think Young You deserved it. Very excited to see her at her next event though!

I am a huge fan of Kseniia and I was thrilled to see her perform so well here! She looked so much better than she did at test skates, especially in the free skate. She doesn't seem like she's quite at 100% yet, but I think she'll get there as the season goes on. Her short program in particular is absolutely exquisite. A fantastic senior debut!

Now I'm just hoping that we'll get to see Alena, Liza, and Kamila next weekend :pray:
 
Totally agree. Given that senior debutants never get that much love from judges usually it was kinda expected. But it doesn't make sense when the judges embraced Daria here, and in Budapest Khromykh, and at Lombardia Liu.

I always roll my eyes when people are talking about Eteri bonus, but here I might agree. Kseniia is a wonderful PCS skater and here she was judged 8th!!
Comparing to the other top skaters she is slow and lacking a power in her elements and overall skating. I don't want to diminish her skating because she has some very good qualities as delicacy and attention to the details, but if you can find those recorded videos from the arena of the skaters performances, which is closer to the judges point of view, you will see the reason.
Yes I agree that where she loses out. Her interpretation and composition are her strengths. Her step sequences are gorgeous. Her attention to detail in her choreography is sublime. I absolutely love her.
 
Congrats to Sasha on the gold and Daria on the silver!

Sasha's 4Lz was amazing to watch, even with the imperfect landing. She just flies through the air and hangs there for longer than you'd expect. I really liked the start of her FP where she really got into the performing. But then the jumps started and she went stone faced until the break but I imagine the injury is to blame for that.

Daria is very fast and polished but I'm sorry, I kind of hate both of her programs and especially this one. PCS seemed... surprisingly reasonable but also kind of low compared to other competitions?

I feel like the scoring at this event was closer to Budapest than Finlandia so that's good but I also still think Sasha and Daria were slightly overscored, Sasha on the GOEs for her somewhat iffy landings and Daria on the GOE for her flutzes. Only slightly overscored though which is a big improvement from many previous competitions so good job ISU I guess.

Kseniia though... It's time for me to riot. What was that 64 PCS. I would have her at 67 at least, if we're being relative to the others. In contrast to the SP, I love her FP music and that multi-directional spin was glorious. I hope she can get some time with a jump specialist though as they are teeny tiny and I think that's affecting her PCS (zzzz judges :rolleye:). Also, flutzes not being called really affects her as her lutz has a great outside edge.
Why should jumps affect ksenias pcs? If PCS scores don't protect those who don't do the ultra jumps what good are? Isn't the P for presentation? And skating skills are supposed to be factored in too. The technical advantage the ultra jump queens have is tremendous. But for those with artistry musicality interpretation and skating skills PCS should be protecting them.
 
Kseniia though... It's time for me to riot. What was that 64 PCS. I would have her at 67 at least, if we're being relative to the others.
I think she was quite tentative in the FS, but 64 is still too low. Doesn’t make much sense that they didn’t give her 67, it would’ve made zero difference to the final standings. Changes nothing at all, so they totally could have scored her a bit higher. Its not like a home skater was threatened so they had to lowball her. Guess part of the reason is that she’s relatively unknown to the judges, compared to others here.
 
Comparing to the other top skaters she is slow and lacking a power in her elements and overall skating. I don't want to diminish her skating because she has some very lovely qualities as delicacy and attention to the details, but if you can find those recorded videos from the arena of the skaters performances, which will give you better look of the judges point of view, you will see the reason... And to be fair, both Lzs and Fs of the other skaters were called this time...
I mean I get that speed seems to be the main factor for PCS with the judges but her edges and transitions are among the best but she's getting at least half a point less than the top scorers. I would agree that she looked quite slow in the SP but I thought she looked much faster today.

And yeah I take that back about Daria's lutz, both of them were called and her GOE was reduced. Just feels weird to see her above Young You who had the performance of the night for me.
 
Yes I agree that where she loses out. Her interpretation and composition are her strengths. Her step sequences are gorgeous. Her attention to detail in her choreography is sublime. I absolutely love her.
Yes, and I forget that Interpretation and Composition are only 2 out of 5 elements in PCS. I think Kseniia is top notch here. But looking at the scores, she is still judged 8th on those two components...
 
Why should jumps affect ksenias pcs? If PCS scores don't protect those who don't do the ultra jumps what good are? Isn't the P for presentation? And skating skills are supposed to be factored in too. The technical advantage the ultra jump queens have is tremendous. But for those with artistry musicality interpretation and skating skills PCS should be protecting them.
I agree, I don't think jumps should affect PCS but if we look at Yelim and Amber too, neither of them skate slow but the jumps weren't quite there and so their PCS is 4 to 5 points behind the top skaters. Especially Amber, she was clean as a whistle on the protocol and her performance was emotional but her BV was significantly lower than any non-American.
 
I mean I get that speed seems to be the main factor for PCS with the judges but her edges and transitions are among the best but she's getting at least half a point less than the top scorers. I would agree that she looked quite slow in the SP but I thought she looked much faster today.

And yeah I take that back about Daria's lutz, both of them were called and her GOE was reduced. Just feels weird to see her above Young You who had the performance of the night for me.
Well, You 3A wasn't fully rotated and she had a problem with a flip edge. And You won over Daria in FP, but a fall in SP prevent her to be 2nd overall. It was really close and could go either way, but that's sport - somebody must to be 2nd and somebody must be 3rd, even the difference in points between them was, in statistical sense, nonexistent.
Regarding speed, watching it live from the arena skaters speed really has a lot of influence on all of the components, everything looks better when it is performed with more speed, COmposition of the programme too. On a TV screen ('real') impression about programme components is not the same.
 
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Kseniia though... It's time for me to riot. What was that 64 PCS. I would have her at 67 at least, if we're being relative to the others. In contrast to the SP, I love her FP music and that multi-directional spin was glorious. I hope she can get some time with a jump specialist though as they are teeny tiny and I think that's affecting her PCS (zzzz judges :rolleye:). Also, flutzes not being called really affects her as her lutz has a great outside edge.
They did call people's Lz's and F's though..

I think it also hurt Kseniia going after Young and Kaori though. She doesn't have their power or speed or performance or energy and it was noticeable. She was much more hesitant (even discounting jumps) and that affected her performance. She's a beautiful skater but she doesn't have better skating skills than Kaori either. In addition, while she's a beautiful skater, she isn't Satoko who is elegant and stunning and whose performance and interpretation transcends her jumps. (If anything, both Kaori and Satoko's PCS were too low.)
 
Some more news about the Canada situation: The rest of the skaters should get their visas by October 25-26th, and are set to leave on the 27th. Unfortunately, the competition starts on the 29th, and Canada has a mandatory 3-day quarantine. sports.ru
Canada doesn’t have a mandatory quarantine if fully vaccinated. You just need a negative test, I wish it explained their source.
 
They did call people's Lz's and F's though..

I think it also hurt Kseniia going after Young and Kaori though. She doesn't have their power or speed or performance or energy and it was noticeable. She was much more hesitant (jumps aside) and that affected her performance. She's a beautiful skater but she doesn't have better skating skills than Kaori either. In addition, while she's a beautiful skater, she isn't Satoko who is elegant and stunning and whose performance and interpretation transcends her jumps. (If anything, both Kaori and Satoko's PCS were too low.)
Yeah I took it back about the lutzes and flips.

I didn't say Kseniia should have got more than Kaori or Satoko though...?
 
in some ways it was the best possible situation for sasha. if she had gone out and hit a 4-quad freee and won by 30 points that at the end of the day doesn't really matter. she won and she proved she can win without all those quads and not at 100% healthy. so that actually will only help her confidence.
Also if she had gotten more injured it definitely wouldn't have been worth it. It's a long season..
 
Yeah I took it back about the lutzes and flips.

I didn't say Kseniia should have got more than Kaori or Satoko though...?I
I meant that skating directly after them made the contrast even more evident. As skating is at least somewhat subjective and impacted by an emotional response, I don't think skating after them did her any favours and probably actually hurt her as she visibly had less energy and performance than the at least 4 of the 5 skaters directly before her.
 
Canada doesn’t have a mandatory quarantine if fully vaccinated. You just need a negative test, I wish it explained their source.
But most of them have the Sputnik vaccine, which I do not believe is accepted in Canada. I think that’s why the rest of them came so early.
 
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