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Sophia Titova is actually pretty engaging for her age, so we’ll see if she does better artistically than the others.
I was going to bring her up, because she seems quite engaged with her portrayal, particularly in the short program. I like Gorbacheva in current juniors as well as V. Morozova. Dina S. from the last two stages also has more than a spark.
 
So, is nobody talking about how Kamila is now landing +3Lo combos in practice? There were some videos from Rostelecom practice and my jaw went to the floor. If she seriously adds it to her SP or FS, it increases her scoring potential and margin of safety if she makes mistakes even more.
 
So, is nobody talking about how Kamila is now landing +3Lo combos in practice? There were some videos from Rostelecom practice and my jaw went to the floor. If she seriously adds it to her SP or FS, it increases her scoring potential and margin of safety if she makes mistakes even more.
She's never done those in a competition, but she was also doing 3Lz-3Lo at last season's Russian Nationals practise. Here she was doing 3F-3Lo. She could seriously hunt down that SP world record which she is still missing by upgrading the combo :unsure:
 
Former American skater Johnny Weir spoke about Russian coach Eteri Tutberidze.
“If anyone does not know, then Eteri Tutberidze is one of the best figure skating coaches in the world. She also recently gave us permission to record her NBC profile - sort of "a day in the life of".

She is very strong, purposeful, but at the same time logical and very kind. I like her a lot,” Weir said.

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I have my favourite skaters (in all categories) but is it ok to like/admire all of them? I admire and respect both Eteri Tutberidze and Alexei Mishin is that heretical?
 
Trusova is one in a million talent but Shcherbakova is just a regular, eh? Obviously.. :biggrin:
this was not meant to degrade Shcherbakova at all, she is obviously an extraordinary talent too. But she is world champion and 3x Russian champion because of her hard work and competitive mindset moreso than having the #1 innate athletic ability, I don’t think that’s too controversial to say and I think Daniil agrees with me. Whereas Trusova and Valieva are physically athletic talents at the level of Midori Ito, Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt etc. but their “athlete’s mindset” is not near Shcherbakova or say Medvedeva’s level
 
this was not meant to degrade Shcherbakova at all, she is obviously an extraordinary talent too. But she is world champion and 3x Russian champion because of her hard work and competitive mindset moreso than having the #1 innate athletic ability, I don’t think that’s too controversial to say and I think Daniil agrees with me. Whereas Trusova and Valieva are physically athletic talents at the level of Midori Ito, Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt etc. but their “athlete’s mindset” is not near Shcherbakova or say Medvedeva’s level
Agreed, still Rubtsova and Titova are nowhere near Shcherbakova and Kostornaia talent-wise.
 
this was not meant to degrade Shcherbakova at all, she is obviously an extraordinary talent too. But she is world champion and 3x Russian champion because of her hard work and competitive mindset moreso than having the #1 innate athletic ability, I don’t think that’s too controversial to say and I think Daniil agrees with me. Whereas Trusova and Valieva are physically athletic talents at the level of Midori Ito, Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt etc. but their “athlete’s mindset” is not near Shcherbakova or say Medvedeva’s level
I disagree. How can Shcherbakova's air position and rotation speed not be pure talent up to the level of Valieva and Trusova, or at least Trusova? Trusova has inconsistent quads and not as much in other departments. Either Shcherbakova is to that level, or Trusova can be a level below Valieva. If Shcherbakova is a hard-worker, well Sasha is simply very athletic physically.
 
Can we call Kamila the Greatest of All Time now, already? Sensational. She has EVERYTHING
At the moment i dont think you can call her that yet, yes she probably will wind this gp event , we dont know yet how she will do in the gpf,at worlds , euros or olympics so calling her that at this time is too early in my opinion. When she has those titles and in my opinion can show us the same next season? Than i would say yes. But for me greatest of all times doesnt mean just winning it once but more than once ,
 
At the moment i dont think you can call her that yet, yes she probably will wind this gp event , we dont know yet how she will do in the gpf,at worlds , euros or olympics so calling her that at this time is too early in my opinion. When she has those titles and in my opinion can show us the same next season? Than i would say yes. But for me greatest of all times doesnt mean just winning it once but more than once ,
If for now we can just say Greatest Level of All Time, I'll take it. :)
 
Maybe, I think the technical superiority doesn’t necessarily mean better skaters though. I’d much rather watch Anna, Sasha, and Aliona as juniors than any of the current juniors save Sophia A. They were just so artistically mature for their age, with very polished programs. As kids grow they lose that instability while skating so to speak, which I think is part of why I still don’t like Kamila… she wobbles the way 11 year olds do, even if the rest of the presentation is good.

Artistic development is being overlooked in favor of jumps, so girls like Veronika Zhilina are underdeveloped there, and aren’t near as engaging for their age as the 3A, Alina, Zhenya… Sophia Titova is actually pretty engaging for her age, so we’ll see if she does better artistically than the others.

Also coaches see youth kids who aren’t old enough to be filmed by anything except their parents, so they might have a better comparison nationwide than we as spectators of only the best of the best do.
I just want to say nobody's overlooking Zhilina's artistic development. They are working very hard to develop her. But she's not a natural performer so getting that out of her isn't easy work.
 
At the moment i dont think you can call her that yet, yes she probably will wind this gp event , we dont know yet how she will do in the gpf,at worlds , euros or olympics so calling her that at this time is too early in my opinion. When she has those titles and in my opinion can show us the same next season? Than i would say yes. But for me greatest of all times doesnt mean just winning it once but more than once ,
You wanted to be undefeated 2 seasons in a row against the kind of competition she faces? Not possible.

But I agree with you we should pull back the reins and the hype on the KaMissile. I don't think she has nerves of steel like Anna does and we don't know how she will handle the pressure of the Olympics and being potentially a big favorite there.
 
You wanted to be undefeated 2 seasons in a row against the kind of competition she faces? Not possible.

But I agree with you we should pull back the reins and the hype on the KaMissile. I don't think she has nerves of steel like Anna does and we don't know how she will handle the pressure of the Olympics and being potentially a big favorite there.
Well greatest of all time includes longevity in my opinion at least, it means to stay on top for more than just one season, and do not forget that a certain junior is coming up right behind kamila in the ranks, sadly sonja and also veronika were born in the wrong year, because at the next olympics akatieva will be close to 19 i think and veronika close to 18. So to say greatest of all times sorry its way too early ,and also way too much pressure. Lets not forget that she is only 15 , she is a teenager and she already is beeing put on the pedestal for olympic gold by almost everyone which is such a great pressure for her to live up to it . So yes i agree that the reins should be pulled back because the last thing this girl needs is even more pressure to live up to
 
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