2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[norwegianfairytale]

Omg noooooo

Seriously when I first read this post I saw the GIPHY first and thought it was a fiction not real, and then I realized it wasn´t fiction

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Ok, i´m reading multiple post on Twitter now that RusFed is denying the positive tests and that Kogan claims it´s a false positive PCR-test and that they are going on the plane. Ehrmmm they know they have to test in Beijing right? God, this is the nightmare.

I mean, if they are positive it´s totally irresponsible to go on the plane and expose everybody else!!

 

[Greengemmonster]

Oh

Any chance they haven't had any contact with the girls?

 

[Greengemmonster]

@norwegianfairytale I feel like if we knew each other in real life, now would be the time to sit down and howl together (while appropriately masked and social distanced)

 

[norwegianfairytale]

@Greengemmonster yeess

This is so sad.

 

[Vemvane]

Aiaiai, I hope there's an official statement soon. If it's true that Daniil and Kogan have both tested positive but are still flying to Beijing, then all I can say is that RusFed is its own worst enemy.

Fingers very tightly crossed and wishing only the very best of health to all the skaters. The Olympics are stressful enough without this!

 

[Greengemmonster]

Unless there is a *wink wink, nudge nudge* deal with China, this will be a huge dumpster fire.

Does anyone know what the rules are? Say those two are on the plane with our fabulous three. Those two test positive but our fabulous three are negative. Are the Fab Three then kicked from the bubble because they were on an infected plane? Or do they quarantine them? Or do that let them in the bubble but that won't make sense because they can go off and infect say the US team if they turn positive a few days later.

Any chance this is just malicious rumors? I'm really hoping that someone is just being malicious and making this up!

 

[norwegianfairytale]

I hope there is a statement soon.

They are basically claiming that 4 PCR test is false positive, all though everybody know they are rarely false positive - and if you have a false positive it´s not likely BOTH of them would have them. And then we havn´t even factored in that it indeed have been cases in the pre olympic camp.

I also thought they would be denied to fly in if they had a positive test?

 

[Greengemmonster]

I hope there is a statement soon.

They are basically claiming that 4 PCR test is false positive, all though everybody know they are rarely false positive - and if you have a false positive it´s not likely BOTH of them would have them. And then we havn´t even factored in that it indeed have been cases in the pre olympic camp.

I also thought they would be denied to fly in if they had a positive test?

Are they flying on a private plane? I'm guessing since Russia is pretty chilled about Covid, if it's a private plane they'll just let them fly willy nilly?

Sorry I'm not being helpful

Malicious rumors

This is what we're hoping for!!! This is the best we can hope for!!!!!

 

[Vemvane]

Unless there is a *wink wink, nudge nudge* deal with China, this will be a huge dumpster fire.

Does anyone know what the rules are? Say those two are on the plane with our fabulous three. Those two test positive but our fabulous three are negative. Are the Fab Three then kicked from the bubble because they were on an infected plane? Or do they quarantine them? Or do that let them in the bubble but that won't make sense because they can go off and infect say the US team if they turn positive a few days later.

Any chance this is just malicious rumors? I'm really hoping that someone is just being malicious and making this up!

A quick Google turned up this Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-free-life-inside-beijings-closed-loop-bubble

Quoting some relevant excerpts:

"The process for foreign participants starts long before they get to Beijing. For two weeks before departure they are required to monitor and upload their temperature and other information to a health app every day.

"After receiving two negative Covid tests within 24 hours, they will get on a dedicated plane. When they disembark in Beijing they will be met by workers in biohazard suits."

"Participants will go through dedicated gates and receive their third test, before one of about 4,000 special vehicles takes them to their bubble, and a hotel barricaded from the public.

"They will be policed and protected by officers who have gone through three weeks of quarantine and isolation, and assisted by thousands of staff such as Zhang, who will have to quarantine again before they can go home. In at least one venue, employees are wearing underarm thermometers that sound an alarm if their temperature rises too high."

"A participant who tests positive goes to an isolation centre for quarantine, or hospital if they are sick. It might start with a midnight knock on the door.

"The isolation rooms are about 25 sq metres and have an openable window. People staying in the rooms will get three meals a day and free wifi, according to the Games playbook, and they will be there for at least 10 days. If they are not showing symptoms and tests show a low viral load for three consecutive days, they can rejoin the closed loop under the measures for close contacts.

"People found to be close contacts and whose jobs can be done by someone else must go to the isolation centre for at least 21 days, or leave China within 24 hours of testing negative. If their job is critical or they are a competitor, they must isolate in their room, travel to competitions alone, train in their room or an isolated space, and be tested every day, including six hours before their event. So far just a few athletes have tested positive since arriving in Beijing."

Edit: Links to the IOC's Competition Contingency Regulations (CCR): https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-publishes-beijing-2022-competition-contingency-regulations

The specific figure skating CCRs are here: https://olympics.com/athlete365/app...ompetition-Contingency-Regulations-Final-.pdf

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Unless there is a *wink wink, nudge nudge* deal with China, this will be a huge dumpster fire.

Does anyone know what the rules are? Say those two are on the plane with our fabulous three. Those two test positive but our fabulous three are negative. Are the Fab Three then kicked from the bubble because they were on an infected plane? Or do they quarantine them? Or do that let them in the bubble but that won't make sense because they can go off and infect say the US team if they turn positive a few days later.

Any chance this is just malicious rumors? I'm really hoping that someone is just being malicious and making this up!

I just read in the Norwegian newspaper that they are considered close contacts if they sit either 2 seats in front or back of a positive case on the plane or one seat beside or something. I´m not sure what the rules are for close contacts, maybe they can test themselves out of quarantine if they don´t have symptoms and a negative test.

 

[norwegianfairytale]

A summery of what is going on so far, very confusing indeed.

But something is going on, I mean come on, someone wouldn´t spread false rumours if it wasn´t the case or do they really like the drama?

 

[Greengemmonster]

A summery of what is going on so far, very confusing indeed.

But something is going on, I mean come on, someone wouldn´t spread false rumours if it wasn´t the case or do they really like the drama?

Well people are always saying the girls have lost jumps etc

I'm pretty sure someone said Anna was finished and has lost all her jumps like three days after she won worlds

So for once I'm hoping someone really has it in for the Russian team and is just making up stuff about them. It's not nice and it's causing us a lot of drama but I would rather that than for this to be true

I agree with you though, I do fear something is up....... You know the saying, where there's smoke, there's fire.

ETA: There's a burning Elmo in your attached tweets. That's about how I feel right now.......

 

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I guess we shall see who’s correct if the 15 yr olds ever stop beating the 18 year olds.

Also about cheating, why again does Russia not get to fly their flag at the Olympics …right that must baseless slander

Why is WADA located in Canada? Why are there no Russians on Wada's board? Why is 90+% TUEs issued for Western athletes? Etc., etc....if my post is deleted as "inappropriate" the one that I quoted should be deleted as well as hate provoking.

 

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Alexandr Kogan has refuted the information that he contracted coronavirus

"We are doing fine" - he told Match TV when asked if he had a positive test. "We should fly together with Gleikhengauz. There are no safeguards against wrong test results" - he added.

Earlier RBK Sport quoted a source in the Federation and Russian Olympic Committee

 

[Tyranid]

Alexandr Kogan has refuted the information that he contracted coronavirus

"We are doing fine" - he told Match TV when asked if he had a positive test. "We should fly together with Gleikhengauz. There are no safeguards against wrong test results" - he added.

Earlier RBK Sport quoted a source in the Federation and Russian Olympic Committee

LMAO @ the clownery in FFKR. Kogan and Gleihenhaus have Covid... "no safeguards against wrong test result", well did you take another test disproving a positive result, Kogan?? If so then why don't you state that? Oh, you didn't take one, well, you better do it because you won't get the green light unless you have a negative test within 72 hours before departure for China.

 

[Scott512]

That's it, objectively every skater I'm aware of had fluctuations in consistence between let's say 15 and 20 caused by body changes, growth, social environment etc. It is not an exclusivity for a certain school. The skaters who are given as an example of longevity etc. are in fact:
1. very rare cases,
2. even them had those issues,
3. have (had) completely different level of competition in their own country and after every not so good skate weren't publicly insluted with "she's done" narrative.

Interesting what you wrote and all true. Especially number 3 about the she's done narrative. It only happens in one country.

 

[Alex Fedorov]

Kogan and Gleihenhaus have Covid...

what does it follow from? From an "anonymous source" message? Well, of course, if it is not known who reported, then no other evidence is needed here - this is 100% true. Tomorrow, no one knows who will report that the United States never existed, it's just a fiction - and we will immediately believe it.

As for the false test results, this phrase of Kogan was uttered separately, and looked like this in full:

"Everyone takes tests on a daily basis and, unfortunately, even from false positive, as well as false negative, no one is safe"

 

[Magill]

what does it follow from? From an "anonymous source" message?

No matter where it came from, as I understand Kogan's first response was to state he had received a "false positive" result and not that he had not received a positive result at all which just changed later on to the total denial of the news. Didn't he know his results himself until the Fed told him what they were? Didn't he know he did not get a postive result but did know it was false positive? Oh,....
Or he did not tweet that at all? Just asking cause I don't use Tweeter myself so I can't check...

 

[fabienne1996]

I swear if they bring the girls in danger because of not telling the truth or ignoring it i will scream . In lets hope for them they are telling the truth even if to false positive in one day for two persons are not tha believable in my eyes. If it were a fast speed test i would say ok , because there i got a false positive as well but my pcr was negative. But they took a pcr test right?