2022 Olympics Team Event Day2: Women's Short Program

[Greengemmonster]

My brilliant, brilliant girl

Kamila kicking @$$ and doing what she was trained to do!!!!!!

Technical prowess aside that was so expressive!!!! First skate at her first Olympics!!!! Brilliant!!!!!

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

I’m tired of them screwing over Shabotova. Late 60s was probably too high considering she has some work to do on musicality/expression and spins but they could have given her a few more points. It’s annoying how she has landed trixel this year (maybe even twice?) and they can only give her 65.

 

[lunastartron]

What? Karen had a much higher average SP score this season than Mariah. This was definitely not a great skate, but this is false info

“Much higher” is a stretch. Their averages across the GP and Nationals shorts are within about 0.8 of each other.

 

[saturdaysun]

lol the Monday morning quarterbacking. Too bad none of the psychic members on this forum were on the USFS decision committee.

 

[badknees]

If it turns out Alysa or even Mariah were in good enough shape to skate the SP here the USFS has some explaining to do.

Why are Alysa or Mairah not in good shape?

 

[anonymoose_au]

Why am I afraid for Vince?
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Because the poor guy will get crucified if he has an impolsion. I've got everything crossed for him, official media may not be awful, but Twitter will make what poor Misha K received four years ago look like gentle ribbing.

Even if you don't like Vincent you should at least hope he does well.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

I’m thinking you are referring to Karen’s? I felt Wakaba’s was more contemporary and fresh. I suppose a requiem might call for a black dress, but it certainly doesn’t have to. IIRC Gordeeva and Grinkov’s Verdi Requiem program (presciently right before his death) didn’t have black costumes.

Karen’s program was far from flawless but her styling and dress were absolutely on point.

Very curious to hear BOP’s POV about Karen’s selection and skate when he has had plenty to say about Zhou.

 

[Joe Mendoza]

Please have Davis/Smolkin do the FD... I am sure you guys will be fine

 

[Jammers]

“Much higher” is a stretch. Their averages across the GP and Nationals shorts are within about 0.8 of each other.

Not only that but Mariah was on the upswing since the early part of the season.

 

[MrMC18]

All this bashing on Karen is so unwarranted. She trains everyday for hours competing for this event, there’s no one more disappointed than her.

There’s many reasons she was chosen over Mariah. She has a higher average SP score this season than Mariah, and has delivered under extremely high pressure stakes - 2017 and 2021 worlds - when she had to skate well when the other American women skated poorly to get the 3 spots.

Mariah’s been to 3 worlds and has placed 9th, 12th, and 12th. Karen’s been to 2 and placed 4th both times when no one expected her to.

Look at rocker skating practice notes as well. The USFS is paying attention to the practices. Karen has been landing 4-5 clean 3-3’s each practice session; Mariah hasn’t landed more than 1 solid 3-3 in Beijing practices.

There’s a chance after this SP that they will split the ladies instead of ice dance and put Mariah in due to Karen performing poorly.

 

[Alex Fedorov]

still a very big contrast between Kamila and everyone else. Indeed, she might not even have done the triple Axel. Such an absolute superiority would make sense if the points given by the judges were taken into account in the final team score. But there are no such rules, and therefore the power of Kamila looks somewhat excessive.

 

[reneerose]

I still think the Team Event should be after the Individual comps. Everyone would be much more relaxed (maybe!). To me Team Event medals are like dessert, but I've said that before Of course, it's The Olympics and of course everyone is still competitive for some hardware, Team or Individual.

 

[dancelion21]

There’s a chance after this SP that they will split the ladies instead of ice dance and put Mariah in due to Karen performing poorly.

I hope they don't do that because it will be a massive slap in the face to Chock/Bates. At this point, the US can't win team gold, so what's the point in trying to "teach a lesson" to Karen by taking her out of the free? She's still getting a team medal out of this, and the only thing they succeed in doing is screwing Chock/Bates. The team silver is not in question due to the strength of the other disciplines.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

I'm thinking the fact that Mariah and Alysa both had covid played into this. Whatever lady was picked was likely going to have to skate four programs. I think it ended up being Karen by default, and hoping that rolling the dice worked like it did at Worlds.

They weren't rolling the dice for 2021 Worlds. Amber Glenn is not favored and not trusted, so she wasn't given an opportunity to see what she might be able to build after getting the 3-axel in her arsenal. Skaters need to compete in order to continue improving. I think it hurt Amber when she was on a roll and had built up her confidence, to NOT be given a chance. Amber wasn't even given an opportunity to go to fluff 2021 WTT. They sent Karen to that, and she bombed. Why send Karen to WTT last year? Let her rest and unwind. She'd done her job at Worlds. It made no sense for a tired Karen to go to WTT, and it was a further slap in Amber's face, from which she seemed to spiral down about. Or, whatever happened to her confidence last year, being snubbed by U.S. fed so often, did NOT help.

Also, I'm not sure U.S. fed expected 3 ladies sports to be secured when they sent Karen to 2021 Worlds. I think they just like her and they like her skating, and thus have given her a number of opportunities. Karen was unable to deliver when she was being touted as the next big MK-level U.S. ladies skater. But sometimes, she gets lucky (because luck along with talent was involved when others didn't perform well, and she performed well enough to place fourth twice). Certainly, those placements at two different Worlds were victories for her, under personal pressure. But it wasn't an assignment for her to do well enough to capture 3 spots again for U.S. ladies. It just turned out to happen.

 

[lunastartron]

Why are Alysa or Mairah not in good shape?

They both contracted COVID recently - Alysa at Nationals, Mariah afterward. One presumes they lost training time.

Editing to clarify: Mariah probably contracted COVID at Nationals but didn’t test positive until after the competition.

 

[Jontor]

I am watching the new sport, biathalon curling!

Biathlon can be combined with a lot. What if we had Biathlon Figure Skating? Extra points for not shooting the judges.

 

[TwinnerA]

Personally, I wish the rules required all the disciplines be skated by 2 men, 2 women, 2 pairs teams and 2 dance teams in the team event. Now that’s a team!

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

I still think the Team Event should be after the Individual comps. Everyone would be much more relaxed (maybe!). To me Team Event medals are like dessert, but I've said that before Of course, it's The Olympics and of course everyone is still competitive for some hardware, Team or Individual.

I used to think that way. But now, I think the Team Event coming first allows skaters to loosen up before the singles events. They could try it both ways or ask skaters' what their preferences are.

 

[invisiblespiral]

No, no- he's got a point

My boyfriend would like to clarify that the only barking noises he wants people to skate to are husky noises.

 

[Haikush]

High PCS for Valieva 2 foot, scratchy, hyper extended skating is a joke. She does not glide, she tip toes and steps across the ice. skating skills NO

this is not true...the hate..wow.....