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2023 Four Continents: Info and Pre-game Chat

When watching practice in the main arena, the trick is finding out where your fav skater's coach likes to hang out
 
Always treat our international visitors with manners and respect.....even if you get mobbed!
I found a nice Japanese flag the size of my seat mate's here.
 
Your seat mate may not speak English, but there is a forum member or two that will teach you how to say Sayonara at the end of the week.
sigh-oh-nar-ah
 
In order of Season Best this season (* - other best if no this season SB)

Men
No Name Nation Score
1 Boyang JIN CHN 273.51*
2 Kao MIURA JPN 273.19
3 Junhwan CHA KOR 264.05
4 Shun SATO JPN 262.21
5 Keegan MESSING CAN 250.72
6 Koshiro SHIMADA JPN 247.17
7 Sihyeong LEE KOR 242.62
8 Maxim NAUMOV USA 227.17
9 Liam KAPEIKIS USA 223.02
10 Stephen GOGOLEV CAN 221.02
11 Jimmy MA USA 216.76
12 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 211.21
13 Conrad ORZEL CAN 202.69
14 Yudong CHEN CHN 201.84
15 Jaeseok KYEONG KOR 200.53
16 Rakhat BRALIN KAZ 199.38
17 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ 192.67
18 Edrian Paul CELESTINO PHI 178.35
19 Darian KAPTICH AUS 145.74*
20 Pagiel Yie Ken SNG SGP 140.88
21 Lap Kan YUEN HKG 127.93*
22 Douglas GERBER NZL 123.41

Women
No Name Nation Score
1 Isabeau LEVITO USA 215.74
2 Yelim KIM KOR 213.97
3 Rinka WATANABE JPN 213.14
4 Hana YOSHIDA JPN 208.31
5 Mone CHIBA JPN 205.82
6 Chaeyeon KIM KOR 205.51
7 Amber GLENN USA 197.61
8 Haein LEE KOR 195.72
9 Bradie TENNELL USA 193.31
10 Madeline SCHIZAS CAN 187.84
11 Justine MICLETTE CAN 167.87
12 Jocelyn HONG NZL 162.54
13 Tzu-Han TING TPE 162.42
14 Sara-Maude DUPUIS CAN 153.77
15 Anna LEVKOVETS KAZ 146.57
16 Sofia Lexi Jacqueline FRANK PHI 142.75
17 Joanna SO HKG 135.78*
18 Sofiya FARAFONOVA KAZ 125.64
19 Tara PRASAD IND 122.75
20 Cheuk Ka Kahlen CHEUNG HKG 120.36
21 Hiu Yau CHOW HKG 112.28
22 Bagdana RAKHISHOVA KAZ 111.88
23 Vlada VASILIEV AUS 110.48*
WD Eugenia GARZA MEX 135.29*

Pairs
No Name Nation Score
1 Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 216.16
2 Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN 197.89
3 Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE USA 187.49
4 Ellie KAM / Danny O'SHEA USA 178.83
5 Lia PEREIRA / Trennt MICHAUD CAN 176.88
6 Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ USA 166.25
7 Siyang ZHANG / Yongchao YANG CHN 161.33
8 Kelly Ann LAURIN / Loucas ETHIER CAN 156.94
9 Huidi WANG / Ziqi JIA CHN 144.27
10 Isabella GAMEZ / Aleksandr KOROVIN PHI 127.60
WD Anastasia GOLUBEVA / Hektor GIOTOPOULOS MOORE AUS 185.53

Ice Dance
No Name Nation Score
1 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 211.94
2 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SOERENSEN CAN 210.41
3 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 202.40
4 Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS USA 194.19
5 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 191.31
6 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC CAN 189.07
7 Kana MURAMOTO / Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN 188.30
8 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 174.11
9 Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS 170.20
10 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Tim KOLETO JPN 166.06
11 Charlotte LAFOND-FOURNIER / Richard Kang In KAM NZL 153.83
12 Gaukhar NAURYZOVA / Boyisangur DATIEV KAZ 145.12
13 India NETTE / Eron WESTWOOD AUS 106.51
WD Xuantong LI / Xinkang WANG CHN 148.09*
WD Xizi CHEN / Jianing XING CHN 126.95*
WD Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 219.49
 
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AlexRus said:
In order of Season Best this season (* - other best if no this season SB)

Men
No Name Nation Score
1 Boyang JIN CHN 273.51* (probably less strong now)
2 Kao MIURA JPN 273.19
3 Junhwan CHA KOR 264.05
4 Shun SATO JPN 262.21
5 Keegan MESSING CAN 250.72
6 Koshiro SHIMADA JPN 247.17
7 Sihyeong LEE KOR 242.62
8 Maxim NAUMOV USA 227.17
9 Liam KAPEIKIS USA 223.02
10 Stephen GOGOLEV CAN 221.02
11 Jimmy MA USA 216.76
12 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 211.21
13 Conrad ORZEL CAN 202.69
14 Yudong CHEN CHN 201.84
15 Jaeseok KYEONG KOR 200.53
16 Rakhat BRALIN KAZ 199.38
17 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ 192.67
18 Edrian Paul CELESTINO PHI 178.35
19 Darian KAPTICH AUS 145.74*
20 Pagiel Yie Ken SNG SGP 140.88
21 Lap Kan YUEN HKG 127.93*
22 Douglas GERBER NZL 123.41

Women
No Name Nation Score
1 Isabeau LEVITO USA 215.74
2 Yelim KIM KOR 213.97
3 Rinka WATANABE JPN 213.14
4 Hana YOSHIDA JPN 208.31
5 Mone CHIBA JPN 205.82
6 Chaeyeon KIM KOR 205.51
7 Amber GLENN USA 197.61
8 Haein LEE KOR 195.72
9 Bradie TENNELL USA 193.31 (probably more strong now, about 205)
10 Madeline SCHIZAS CAN 187.84
11 Justine MICLETTE CAN 167.87
12 Jocelyn HONG NZL 162.54
13 Tzu-Han TING TPE 162.42
14 Sara-Maude DUPUIS CAN 153.77
15 Anna LEVKOVETS KAZ 146.57
16 Sofia Lexi Jacqueline FRANK PHI 142.75
17 Joanna SO HKG 135.78*
18 Eugenia GARZA MEX 135.29*
19 Sofiya FARAFONOVA KAZ 125.64
20 Tara PRASAD IND 122.75
21 Cheuk Ka Kahlen CHEUNG HKG 120.36
22 Hiu Yau CHOW HKG 112.28
23 Bagdana RAKHISHOVA KAZ 111.88
24 Vlada VASILIEV AUS 110.48*

Pairs
No Name Nation Score
1 Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 216.16
2 Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN 197.89
3 Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE USA 187.49
4 Anastasia GOLUBEVA / Hektor GIOTOPOULOS MOORE AUS 185.53
5 Ellie KAM / Danny O'SHEA USA 178.83
6 Lia PEREIRA / Trennt MICHAUD CAN 176.88
7 Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ USA 166.25
8 Siyang ZHANG / Yongchao YANG CHN 161.33
9 Kelly Ann LAURIN / Loucas ETHIER CAN 156.94
10 Huidi WANG / Ziqi JIA CHN 144.27
11 Isabella GAMEZ / Aleksandr KOROVIN PHI 127.60

Ice Dance
No Name Nation Score
1 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 219.49
2 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 211.94
3 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SOERENSEN CAN 210.41
4 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 202.40
5 Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS USA 194.19
6 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 191.31
7 Kana MURAMOTO / Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN 188.30
8 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 174.11
9 Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS 170.20
10 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Tim KOLETO JPN 166.06
11 Charlotte LAFOND-FOURNIER / Richard Kang In KAM NZL 153.83
12 Xuantong LI / Xinkang WANG CHN 148.09*
13 Gaukhar NAURYZOVA / Boyisangur DATIEV KAZ 145.12
14 Xizi CHEN / Jianing XING CHN 126.95*
15 India NETTE / Eron WESTWOOD AUS 106.51
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Thanks! Going into my program.
How hard would it be to put the Altitude they train at into this chart?:devil:
Current density altitude at the Colorado Springs airport
4816 ft.

Colorado Springs Airport - Colorado Springs, Colorado - Engine Tuning Weather

Current density altitude for Colorado Springs Airport in Colorado Springs, Colorado from AirDensityOnline.com. Get engine tuning weather at the track.
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Seven Sisters said:
If that is your cover, I am going to guess that Ladies’ is your favorite discipline, and that the younger Asian ladies are your favorites. Am I right?

Dance & men for me, and I also enjoy a good pair :)
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You would be wrong. Do I like Asian skaters for the people they are, for their cultural values? For their politeness and respect of others and authority? Because for some reason, their cultures produce artistic skaters instead of people I wont bad mouth (Here at least). It is no fluke that Jason Brown likes the Japanese and they like him and he speaks Japanese. But age has nothing to do with it....Miki Ando, Fumie Suguri, Midori Ito, and the glorious Mao Asada.....and the best that the world has ever seen...Yuna Kim....
I put on the cover of my program the skaters that Korea and Japan sent. I like Wakaba and I would have put her on it if they sent her....
But I will be frank with you. I like artistry and the hot mess that US mens Figure skating has become left me cold except for a very few. The system rewards skaters who do tricks and have they can have no facial expression or a silly grin....their body artisty is forced.......the arena exploaded and the roof came off for Jason, just like it did for his Riverdance. Watch Rudy Galindo's YMCA or Todd Eldrige's Gettysburg. MK lasted for as long as she did cause people loved her artistry...never saw her do a 3A or 4T but she packed the house.
I like Ice dance too but for me, I miss the days of the Shibs, Meryl and Charlie, Tan and Ben.
Pairs has changed too. I loved seeing the Chinese pairs...and I get to see the wonderful Japanese pair R and R... at 4 ccs....now go back in your time machine...the beautiful spiral bound media guides we were given in the season 2009-2010 and look at how many quality exciting pairs the US was fielding...there were 6-7 pairs you couldnt NOT watch.......
So...is it me? Have I just become an old cynical grumpy old man?
The answer lays in the attendance figures at US Nats....You would have had no issues moving up to the second third or fourth rows...NO LINES AT THE WOMEN's BATHROOMS.
Now look at the attendence at Japanese Nats.....and look at their juniors coming up? And look at all those people wearing masks and obeying the request to not scream....

But most of all...look at all the GSers who are NOT going to nats or Four Conts....I have pics of groups of us at Boston and Spokane having dinner.....are we dieing off? Or what?
I will be on a cruise ship going through the Panama canal next year....and I would love it if SA is in a nice easy to get to reasonably priced place.
Ditto Four ccs some year...
I dont understand why more people HERE are not going there. I paid $358 for a front row seat. See what people pay for a seat at a game of the ball....see how far they travel....see how they party.....expensive hotel rooms, meals, etc...and many are not rich....
Half this country is with in a two day drive of Colorado. Two people in one car getting average seats and sharing a room are within a two day drive and how many people will be there from the US????? And how many from Japan....the land of Artistry.....
 
ptvvibezz said:
I don't think USFS has never not sent the top 3 from nationals excluding age restrictions or one of skaters/teams opting out
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I mean last year they didn’t. I seem to remember 2nd tier often being sent. But my memory can be faulty.
 
ptvvibezz said:
Question to the experienced fans: what does one do during the 2/3 hour breaks in between events? I don't want to use a lot of money on uber and lyft so I probably wouldn't head back to my Airbnb. I'm also going alone so I don't have anyone to hang out with...
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I watch practices. Post to GS on my phone. Make new friends every time I go to a comp.
 
CoyoteChris said:
You would be wrong. Do I like Asian skaters for the people they are, for their cultural values? For their politeness and respect of others and authority? Because for some reason, their cultures produce artistic skaters instead of people I wont bad mouth (Here at least). It is no fluke that Jason Brown likes the Japanese and they like him and he speaks Japanese. But age has nothing to do with it....Miki Ando, Fumie Suguri, Midori Ito, and the glorious Mao Asada.....and the best that the world has ever seen...Yuna Kim....
I put on the cover of my program the skaters that Korea and Japan sent. I like Wakaba and I would have put her on it if they sent her....
But I will be frank with you. I like artistry and the hot mess that US mens Figure skating has become left me cold except for a very few. The system rewards skaters who do tricks and have they can have no facial expression or a silly grin....their body artisty is forced.......the arena exploaded and the roof came off for Jason, just like it did for his Riverdance. Watch Rudy Galindo's YMCA or Todd Eldrige's Gettysburg. MK lasted for as long as she did cause people loved her artistry...never saw her do a 3A or 4T but she packed the house.
I like Ice dance too but for me, I miss the days of the Shibs, Meryl and Charlie, Tan and Ben.
Pairs has changed too. I loved seeing the Chinese pairs...and I get to see the wonderful Japanese pair R and R... at 4 ccs....now go back in your time machine...the beautiful spiral bound media guides we were given in the season 2009-2010 and look at how many quality exciting pairs the US was fielding...there were 6-7 pairs you couldnt NOT watch.......
So...is it me? Have I just become an old cynical grumpy old man?
The answer lays in the attendance figures at US Nats....You would have had no issues moving up to the second third or fourth rows...NO LINES AT THE WOMEN's BATHROOMS.
Now look at the attendence at Japanese Nats.....and look at their juniors coming up? And look at all those people wearing masks and obeying the request to not scream....


I dont understand why more people HERE are not going there. I paid $358 for a front row seat. See what people pay for a seat at a game of the ball....see how far they travel....see how they party.....expensive hotel rooms, meals, etc...and many are not rich....
Half this country is with in a two day drive of Colorado. Two people in one car getting average seats and sharing a room are within a two day drive and how many people will be there from the US????? And how many from Japan....the land of Artistry.....
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Last I heard Japan had decided Covid was no longer an issue and tons of people died. Not that many had gotten vaxxed and those who had got the Japanese vaccine which is apparently much less effective than the US. If you told me I could go to a figure skating comp but had to not cheer I’d stay home.

I am disabled and on disability, though I do have a side job. I’m able to attend at most 2 comps per year. I prioritize Gracie so this year it was Philly and Nats. I would have loved to go to Cranberry, Skate America, International Classic, 4CCs but I can’t. Especially with this short turnaround between comps I’m not sure I could even do it physically let alone financially. My sister and I used to go together and she could drive in snow (I can’t). I doubt there is anyone near me who would want to go but if there is anyone in the St Louis area who would drop me a line..
I doubt I ever visit the land of $6.75 diet cokes again though.
 
moonvine said:
Last I heard Japan had decided Covid was no longer an issue and tons of people died. Not that many had gotten vaxxed and those who had got the Japanese vaccine which is apparently much less effective than the US. If you told me I could go to a figure skating comp but had to not cheer I’d stay home.

I am disabled and on disability, though I do have a side job. I’m able to attend at most 2 comps per year. I prioritize Gracie so this year it was Philly and Nats. I would have loved to go to Cranberry, Skate America, International Classic, 4CCs but I can’t. Especially with this short turnaround between comps I’m not sure I could even do it physically let alone financially. My sister and I used to go together and she could drive in snow (I can’t). I doubt there is anyone near me who would want to go but if there is anyone in the St Louis area who would drop me a line..
I doubt I ever visit the land of $6.75 diet cokes again though.
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Please dont spread disinformation without reference. Here are the true vax rates
www.statista.com

Japan: COVID-19 vaccination rate 2023 | Statista

Around 80 percent of Japan's population received second doses of COVID-19 vaccination. The booster shot administration began at the end of 2021.
www.statista.com www.statista.com
 
moonvine said:
Last I heard Japan had decided Covid was no longer an issue and tons of people died. Not that many had gotten vaxxed and those who had got the Japanese vaccine which is apparently much less effective than the US. If you told me I could go to a figure skating comp but had to not cheer I’d stay home.

I am disabled and on disability, though I do have a side job. I’m able to attend at most 2 comps per year. I prioritize Gracie so this year it was Philly and Nats. I would have loved to go to Cranberry, Skate America, International Classic, 4CCs but I can’t. Especially with this short turnaround between comps I’m not sure I could even do it physically let alone financially. My sister and I used to go together and she could drive in snow (I can’t). I doubt there is anyone near me who would want to go but if there is anyone in the St Louis area who would drop me a line..
I doubt I ever visit the land of $6.75 diet cokes again though.
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I really dont know whose vax they are using but I have had all my five shots of US vaxes and when I got covid, thankfully there was paxlovid. Vax doesnt keep you from getting the virus....it lessens the effects. Here is what is happening to our Asian friends....
 
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