2023 Nebelhorn Trophy Pairs Short Program

[Jumping_Bean]

Annika is literally a tiny bundle of energy, and I'm so proud of her finally getting the 3S down. She must have worked so hard on it during the off-season. Ah, could I love these two more? No, I don't think so (And they are actually one of the teams with great sbs spins, super synchronised)

A few more issues here than in Lombardia, but still two very solid SPs to start off the season.

 

[balabam]

i'm back!

So the hunger is gone. What about thirst?

 

[elektra blue]

So the hunger is gone. what about thirst?

thirst is never gone

 

[elektra blue]

Hocke/Kunkel 65.55

 

[balabam]

Hocke/Kunkel 65.55

number game.
I am also surprised that middle age devil Lucrezia B. didn't score 66.6
It was close, but maybe some diabolical judges failed in the buffet

 

[elektra blue]

number game.
I am also surprised that middle age devil Lucrezia B. didn't score 66.6
But it was close, of course, but maybe some diabolical judges failed in the buffet

i know, right? that's my daughter after all! there's no respect in this world

 

[balabam]

i know, right? that's my daughter after all! there's no respect in this world

No worry. It's pure statistics. Every mom with so much children unevitably has at least one diabolical

 

[elektra blue]

Hase/Volodin

62.85

and now i'm off to Budapest

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Standings after four groups:

Pair	Country	TSS	TES	PCS
Lucrezia BECCARI / Matteo GUARISE	Italy	66.36	?	?
Annika HOCKE / Robert KUNKEL	Germany	65.55	35.75	29.80
Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nikita VOLODIN	Germany	62.85	33.59	29.26
Lia PEREIRA / Trennt MICHAUD	Canada	62.38	34.06	28.32
Maria PAVLOVA / Alexei SVIATCHENKO	Hungary	61.34	33.61	27.73
Kelly Ann LAURIN / Loucas ETHIER	Canada	59.59	32.13	27.46
Sofiia HOLICHENKO / Artem DARENSKYI	Ukraine	50.71	26.83	23.88
Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA	Italy	47.47	28.06	22.41
Lydia SMART / Harry MATTICK	UK	46.68	23.87	22.81
Maria MOKHOVA / Ivan MOKHOV	USA	40.58	19.64	22.94
Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD	Sweden	39.37	20.69	19.68
Julia MAUDER / Johannes WILKINSON	South Africa	38.32	20.10	18.22
Nika OSIPOVA / Dmitry EPSTEIN	Netherlands	WD

 

[LadyB]

C'mon Klimov Teams, don't worry. You're better than that.

 

[LadyB]

Great stuff Hocke/Kunkel!!!

 

[LadyB]

Quite happy with these SPs - looking forward toFS.
Laters

 

[Jumping_Bean]

And the last group of the day here in Oberstdorf. It's been a long day

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Not so terrible for the not-so-baby-anymore Germans. Yes, there were quite a few issues, on the twist, the two-footed triple throw, and the underrotated 2A, but good lift, and a good death spiral. They won't make it to Worlds, but Germany has three spots at Euros and I am not seeing anyone taking that last spot from them.

 

[QuadThrow]

Not so terrible for the not-so-baby-anymore Germans. Yes, there were quite a few issues, on the twist, the two-footed triple throw, and the underrotated 2A, but good lift, and a good death spiral. They won't make it to Worlds, but Germany has three spots at Euros and I am not seeing anyone taking that last spot from them.

Honestly I was shocked how weak they were. Music choice, artistry, they even made mistakes at their best elements. I expect more if Alonja, Robin and Ingo work on them.

 

[SkatersWaltz]

General question: Do you think that Canada will retain their 3 spots after Worlds 2024?

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Honestly I was shocked how weak they were. Music choice, artistry, they even made mistakes at their best elements. I expect more if Alonja, Robin and Ingo work on them.

They've had issues with ice time. They were sharing one ice rink with hockey, singles skating and recreational skating.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Final standings:

Pair	Country	TSS	TES	PCS
Lucrezia BECCARI / Matteo GUARISE	Italy	66.36	?	?
Annika HOCKE / Robert KUNKEL	Germany	65.55	35.75	29.80
Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nikita VOLODIN	Germany	62.85	33.59	29.26
Lia PEREIRA / Trennt MICHAUD	Canada	62.38	34.06	28.32
Maria PAVLOVA / Alexei SVIATCHENKO	Hungary	61.34	33.61	27.73
Kelly Ann LAURIN / Loucas ETHIER	Canada	59.59	32.13	27.46
Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ	USA	54.93	29.60	26.33
Sofiia HOLICHENKO / Artem DARENSKYI	Ukraine	50.71	26.83	23.88
Irma CALDARA / Riccardo MAGLIO	Italy	47.78	25.77	23.01
Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA	Italy	47.47	28.06	22.41
Letizia ROSCHER / Luis SCHUSTER	Germany	46.96	24.16	22.80
Oxana VOUILLAMOZ / Flavien GINIAUX	France	46.72	26.32	23.40
Lydia SMART / Harry MATTICK	UK	46.68	23.87	22.81
Maria MOKHOVA / Ivan MOKHOV	USA	40.58	19.64	22.94
Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD	Sweden	39.37	20.69	19.68
Julia MAUDER / Johannes WILKINSON	South Africa	38.32	20.10	18.22
Nika OSIPOVA / Dmitry EPSTEIN	Netherlands	WD

 

[QuadThrow]

General question: Do you think that Canada will retain their 3 spots after Worlds 2024?

They need a maximum of 13 points if you sum up the placements of the first two Canadian pairs. So if S_D/D take a bronze medal Pereira/Michaud need place 10 to save the third spot. Difficult to predict. It is in the rooms of possiblities. But Pereira/Michaud have not looked great so far and many other pairs seem to improve (two German pairs, Beccari/Guarise...). I do not think so.

 

[Dreamer57]

They need a maximum of 13 points if you sum up the placements of the first two Canadian pairs. So if S_D/D take a bronze medal Pereira/Michaud need place 10 to save the third spot. Difficult to predict. It is in the rooms of possiblities. But Pereira/Michaud have not looked great so far and many other pairs seem to improve (two German pairs, Beccari/Guarise...). I do not think so.

I think they could place top 10, also having a home crowd helps to boost your performance.
I'd really like Italy to achieve 3 spots too!

Holichenko/Darenskyi haven't quite earned the SP minimum for worlds here, let's hope they can earn the free skate TES for Euros as Ukraine has two spots there!