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Because she is coming to take all of their medals.
She was inconsistent last season, but with Eteri she is going to become a machine. Pair this with her natural artistry and its finished for almost anyone.
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She was inconsistent last season, but with Eteri she is going to become a machine. Pair this with her natural artistry and its finished for almost anyone.
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But would Eteri think this way, after all Prineva will now be TeamTut. Maybe Sadkova will finally pull herself together with the competition? And Bazylyuk will work harder on her second mark? I think it will make Russian skating even more competitive and interesting. Whoever a skater chooses as coach, I hope that skater can maximize their potential to the fullest. (And remain uninjured)
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Yea, I've been putting a lot on Sadkova for this season since a while now. She was still recovering from injury last year as I understand, and technically she has everything together except the 4T. Seems like she just struggles with nerves, a lot.
Eteri's not going to an automatic for making skaters consistent, she's had multiple skaters that have/had ongoing consistency issues.
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Thats irrelevant frankly because obviously nobody can make diamond out of literally anything... point is her success rate is extremely high and incomparably past everybody else, and we know for sure Prineva has diamond potential. The difference in coaching staff Prineva will experience is absolutely massive. Trusova with Plushenko was very inconsistent technically and Eteri straightened her out instantly.
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Crazy season incoming.
OMG! Let the battle between Eteri and Plushenko begin…
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The battle between Kostyleva and some Eteri girls is there for sure, but holistically the difference between AOP and Eteri is still unquantifiably large.
Well, Seniors was also an Eteri (Adeliya and Kamila) versus Plushenko (Sofia M) battle at Russian Nationals, as well. Eteri has always been the leader. I think it is good that there is a camp that is challenging. Plushenko is right behind Eteri
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I've said Muravieva is my favourite skater for a while, so I have every reason to agree, but it is just objectively not true. Muravieva is far removed from Petrosian, Valieva and Akateva in terms of any metric. Valieva's entire body metamorphosed and she wasn't even trying because she knew she'd get banned, and she did... Petrosian had a growth spurt and got sick twice before Nats, and Akateva didnt compete at all, and Muravieva STILL couldn't win. That was her only chance.
Petrosian and Akateva are in another league of skill. They have better jumps, spins, sequences, choreography, artistry, SS, versatility... I can keep going. They are AAA level, Muravieva is not even close. She is a 3A merchant and still hasn't even surpassed Kostornaia's, who was a distinguished master by 15 and dropped 260 score, meanwhile the former 2 are right on the heels of record breakers outside of Olympic season and with an international ban. Maybe if Muravieva consistently had programs liker he Gatsby, there'd be a discussion, but this has not happened. There's levels to this game.
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Muravieva still beat Petrosian in 2020 Russian Junior Nationals, when it mattered, to go to Junior Worlds that season. The Junior Worlds was unfortunately, cancelled. Would have been lovely to see the three Sofias sweep the podium that year. She also beat Petrosian at 2022 Russian Nationals and Akatieva at the Russian Cup in 2023, later that season.
Overall, Muravieva is currently the second best skater in the world behind Petrosian. If Akatieva and Veronika Z comeback, she could fall out of the top three. But, one thing about Muravieva, is that she always fights for top three when it matters.
The only point I’m making is that it seems like the podium for Junior and Senior Women at Russian Nationals is going to be filled with Plushenko and Eteri girls and therefore, there is an existing rivalry between these two camps. You can’t deny that.
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It doesnt matter what happened 2 or 3 seasons ago... When they were babies and not even barely resembling their current selves. If we're comparing Plushenko and Eteri going back in time is the last thing you would ever want to do. Muravieva is the 2nd best skater in the world right now because the competition last season was between 2 skaters, and she came last, with her rival under 2 significant handicaps.
Is there a rivalry? With Kostyleva in juniors you can make that argument, because the chances of her beating Margarita are not low enough to bet my house against. But generally it is an extremely lopsided rivalry, because you would need Petrosian/Akateva on a double total meltdown and Muravieva dropping two perfect skates with three 3A, which she has never done, for her to win. There is no reasonable equality of skill in seniors right now between Eteri and Plushenko.
Zhilina can jump well but thats about it. I dont even see her having the potential to become who Muravieva is as a serious figure skater. If Zhilina just farms quads to take down the infinitely more sophisticated and touching Muravieva it would be a tragedy to the sport and probably ruin the entire season. To go even further and parallel Zhilina with someone like Akateva is then blasphemy. Even granting Zhilina's quad crutch she is outclassed there by the two Eteri stars regardless. I am much more interested to see where Sadkova goes since she has everything else checked except her competitive mentality.
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I was looking at the regulations for this upcoming season on the RusFed website...
www.fsrussia.ru
The age rules for juniors, referenced on p. 3, are a little confusing. Does this mean...?
1) The lower limit is age 12 as of July 1, with an exception made for any members of the national team who are younger than this. (Which isn't really relevant as there aren't any members of the national team who were younger than 12 as of July 1.)
2) The lower limit is age 12 as of July 1, but only for members of the national team. For everyone else, the lower limit is something else...perhaps age 13, like it's been in the past.
3) Some other interpretation.
Perhaps someone like @AlexBreeze knows.
Федерация фигурного катания на коньках России
Официальный сайт Федерации фигурного катания на коньках России. Новости, интервью, календарь и результаты соревнований, состав сборной команды.
The age rules for juniors, referenced on p. 3, are a little confusing. Does this mean...?
1) The lower limit is age 12 as of July 1, with an exception made for any members of the national team who are younger than this. (Which isn't really relevant as there aren't any members of the national team who were younger than 12 as of July 1.)
2) The lower limit is age 12 as of July 1, but only for members of the national team. For everyone else, the lower limit is something else...perhaps age 13, like it's been in the past.
3) Some other interpretation.
Perhaps someone like @AlexBreeze knows.
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Since the previous season, it's.I was looking at the regulations for this upcoming season on the RusFed website...
Федерация фигурного катания на коньках России
Официальный сайт Федерации фигурного катания на коньках России. Новости, интервью, календарь и результаты соревнований, состав сборной команды.
The age rules for juniors, referenced on p. 3, are a little confusing. Does this mean...?
1) The lower limit is age 12 as of July 1, with an exception made for any members of the national team who are younger than this. (Which isn't really relevant as there aren't any members of the national team who were younger than 12 as of July 1.)
2) The lower limit is age 12 as of July 1, but only for members of the national team. For everyone else, the lower limit is something else...perhaps age 13, like it's been in the past.
3) Some other interpretation.
Perhaps someone like @AlexBreeze knows.
Juniors: 13 years (12 for the national team members in single skating)
In single skating, the minimum age must be reached by 1 July. In pair skating and ice dance — by the time of a competition.
What nobody mentioned yet, even before counting Aliona in there is quite a bunch of girls in Eteri's camp who can't wait to make a splash
Some of them should be up to juniors next season. So the yoghurt gang will be forced to work hard (and probably raise to incredible heights) next season.
Some of them should be up to juniors next season. So the yoghurt gang will be forced to work hard (and probably raise to incredible heights) next season.
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Thanks, @AlexBreeze. So the reference in the document to 2012 is only applicable to members of the (novice) national team, it seems? And for everyone else it is 2011?
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Exactly.
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Thanks, @AlexBreeze. For novice younger age older group, it looks like the upper limit is 13 years old as of 2024-July-1, and the lower limit is 11 years old as of 2024-December-31. (It's a little weird that they use July on one end and December on the other, but that's what the same document seems to indicate.) Is this what you're seeing, as well?
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Yes.
Last season it was just 2011-2012.
It was done because last season they raised the junior limit. And so that girls born in the second half of 2010 couldn't compete in juniors (because they were too young) or novices (because they were too old). So they lowered the age limit for the older group at novice nationals by six months.
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Maria Rebrova has announced her retirement.
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