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Alexandra Trusova is expecting to take part at test skates if her health (and the fed) allows it!!
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I was literally responding to your commentYou seem to be ignoring that Trusova was inconsistent with Eteri before she went to Plushenko where she continued her inconsistency and even when she came back to Eteri she wasn't consistent - everyone just discounts it because her foot was injured and she managed to be relatively clean at the Olympics.
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Are we assuming that these skaters would be Kaori and the other Japanese ladies, Belgiam's duo, Korea and the USA? Are they better than these ladies.
Even if she's sloppy I'm sure the Fed will allow her at Test skates to sell tickets. I'll believe it when I see it that this is a serious return to competition. She's said to still have issues with the foot that was injured during the Olympic season, if that's really still a problem I doubt it holds up to the rigors of competitive training. And I doubt her or any of the other "on break, totally not retired" skaters are really interested in domestic only competitions and I doubt interested in going to competitions to lose to skaters who once looked up to you. Which is what Trusova will likely do unless she's got multiple quads Petrosyan and Muravieva both have pretty stable triple axels that they can do in the SP*, Akatieva had a good 1 pre-injury, it wouldn't surprise me if she gets it back.
*So Trusova will need at least 1 quad just to make up the deficit from the SP.
Akatieva (assuming she gets back to how she skated pre-injury), Muravieva and Petrosyan all with a triple axel are better
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Do you believe this? I don't. Maybe Alina is going to say the same thing. Same difference.
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Are internationals this disconnected from reality?
Adeliia dropped 252, Muravieva 239, Valieva 237, Frolova 225, Sinitsyna 224...
Akateva sat this season out but dropped 250 before as well
Meanwhile Kaori won worlds with 222
I dont even know what other skaters you could be referring to... "Belgian Duo"? Leona? She barely pushed 200 at words dude.
Meanwhile I dont know what this dude is talking about "with a triple axel" for. Adeliia lost her 3A for Nats and still barely missed 250. Valieva had no 3A. Mura dropped 228 in stages without a 3A. Frolova and Sinitsyna never had a 3A.
So Kaori would get utterly starched with zero contest by Akateva, Petrosian, and Muravieva. She would be begging on her knees for one of them to have a total melt down to even podium, at the same time needing a flawless performance to beat the non-ultra-si girls like Sinitsyna and Frolova. And everyone else but Kaori is out of the question.
You seem to be ignoring that Trusova was inconsistent with Eteri before she went to Plushenko where she continued her inconsistency and even when she came back to Eteri she wasn't consistent - everyone just discounts it because her foot was injured and she managed to be relatively clean at the Olympics.
I dont understand your point at all. You quoted my post saying Eteri will make Prineva a machine because shes going from a random camp to the Olympic medalist factory, to which you said its not a guarantee because not every Eteri skater in history is perfect, to which I responded that it is an utterly mute point: obviously I would not bet my life that Eteri will succeed in every single scenario... What? If you dont think Prineva going to Eteri should absolutely be indicative of stabilizing her quads coming from Moiseeva then you can go ahead and keep arguing that just for the sake of arguing. I know you dont even believe that. Meanwhile all of Plushenko's skaters struggle with instability. Even his golden girl Muravieva struggles consistently. The raw fact is that Trusova couldn't skate clean to save her life with Plushenko and then jumped 5 quads with Eteri. If you think Plushenko's track record puts him anywhere near Eteri you can think that dude.
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Right, @AlexBreeze. I recall that Liza Andreeva had a weird season because of this.
So I suppose this means that the upper limit for novice younger age *younger* group will be 10 years old as of 2024-December-31?
And will the lower limit for this group be 8 years old or 9 years old as of 2024-December 31?
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Yes, it's 10 years old.
I'm not sure if there is an official lower limit for this competition.
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Yeah, @AlexBreeze. I just looked, and Team Davydov's Valeria Moiseeva competed in Moscow Novice Younger Age Younger Group Championships this past season *and* the season before.
This past season she was 9 years old as of December 31, so the prior season she was 8 years old as of December 31.
I guess this suggests that there's either no lower limit for this age group, or that the lower limit is 8 years old.
The one category we haven't covered, besides sports categories, is novice older age. Do you know if the lower and upper limits are still 11 and 17, respectively? And, for each, is it July 1 or December 31?
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Sure. Otherwise no one would come, like last year..
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As I understand it.
Used to be: 11 (December 31) and 16 (December 31) inclusively
Since this season: 11 (July 1) and 17 (December 31) inclusively
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The arena was loaded but we understand that you're more familiar with youtube edits than figure skatingSure. Otherwise no one would come, like last year..
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Interesting, @AlexBreeze. Wouldn't you think it would be easier if they made the novice older age lower limit based on December 31, so that it matches the lower limit for novice younger age older group? That way, once skaters become eligible for novice younger age older group, they know they're also eligible for novice older age, instead of having this weird six month gap of skaters who are eligible for the former but not the latter. I mean, if you're going to set the lower limits that close to each other, you might as well just make them the same. Ah, RusFed.
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Evgeni Plushenko has officially announced Trusova's comeback.
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Would this be the only way Russia could get 3 entrants for the Olympics? Now, she can use her "former World/Olympic medalist comeback" status to go to Worlds, along with another skater, let's say Petrosyan. They combine placements to earn three spots, which would be confirmed at Nebelhorn by another skater like Muravyova. And voila, three spots. I didn't think either Sasha or Anna would come back, but this looks like the simplest way to get back the three spots. I suppose we'll find out what exactly the status of Russian skaters being allowed to compete will be this season pretty soon.
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Trusova's comment
Yes, I want to try to perform at Test Skates, the Federation has given its consent. I don't know about the season yet, life will show. The most important thing is my health.
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2025 worlds? And how is she going to be allowed to that?
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First of all, since when are former World/Olympic medalists exempt from the country-based limit at competitions (which is one currently for Russia at Euros and Worlds)?
The only comeback rule I know of is the one concerning the Grand Prix, but even there they are still subject to the country-based limit.
Secondly, Russia has not even been allowed back yet. I don't think the ISU will allow them back in mid-season (at which point they'd have to scramble to achieve TES minimums), so more likely than not, they won't be back before next season at the earliest.
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