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2025 Worlds: Info and pre-game chat

I am going to worlds - men's short and rhythm dance - first time going, I am local so figured I had to, and these fit into my schedule ;) - and my Q is, if the event starts at 11:15 and then the next event is at 6 or whatever, how much of a break is there in between? Trying to figure out rides with my kids, etc.! TIA!
What I see on the color coded sheet is that on Thurs. the men's short lasts from 11:05 am to 4:44 pm. Followed by the Pairs free from 6:15 pm to 9:55 pm. Friday the R. dance shows 11:15 am to 4:54 pm. Women's free starts at 6:00 pm and goes to 9:52 pm. These times are always told as subject to change, but that's what I see now.
 
Belinda did commentary for the recent Asian Winter Games. She had help from a fellow named Olly Hogben who seemed to pronounce names well. My favorite commentary is no commentary but I was ok with Belinda and Olly.
Wow. I have watched so many events this season, I dont even remember! LOL. Loved the Japanese Jr High and High school games....
 
Wow. I have watched so many events this season, I dont even remember! LOL. Loved the Japanese Jr High and High school games....
OK, this is the woman with the possibly Aussie accent who says there are deductions for falling over and says "KAY ori?
 
After listening to her and her English, Aussie accent saying things like "KAYori" and "Skaters get penalized for falling over you may be right.
I get the name pronunciation error, but I'll admit to being baffled about "skaters get penalized for falling over"? Or is her error in a part that was lost in condensing whatever she says that I've never noticed the few times I've heard her :scratch2:?
 
Big fan of Chris
So am I. In fact, Chris was the reason I got into figure skating 30 years ago. His commentary on Eurosport at the time was very helpful in explaining the different jumps. That said, I do agree with others here that he can sometimes be a little too optimistic and some phrases he uses are getting old.
But for people with little knowledge of figure skating, he still is the best one to draw you in.
 
After listening to her and her English, Aussie accent saying things like "KAYori" and "Skaters get penalized for falling over you may be right.

Skaters do get penalized for falling. Should Belinda Noonan lie? I think not. Further, U.S. NBC commentators mispronounced Yuzuru Hanyu every season. If Americans can't pronounce a well-known skater's name correctly, I sure as heck don't expect a higher standard to be applied to someone who isn't American.
 
Skaters do get penalized for falling. Should Belinda Noonan lie? I think not. Further, U.S. NBC commentators mispronounced Yuzuru Hanyu every season. If Americans can't pronounce a well-known skater's name correctly, I sure as heck don't expect a higher standard to be applied to someone who isn't American.
Noonan is GREAT. Literally anyone is better than US commentators... but nobody comes close to Mark Hanretty. He's knowledgeable, positive, extremely exciting, and yet relatable and able to let out a giggle once in awhile that doesn't sound unprofessional, but rather like someone who is just tickled by the amazing performance he has seen. I don't think I've ever heard a commentator as good as him and I've been watching for 35 years or more.
 
Noonan is GREAT. Literally anyone is better than US commentators... but nobody comes close to Mark Hanretty. He's knowledgeable, positive, extremely exciting, and yet relatable and able to let out a giggle once in awhile that doesn't sound unprofessional, but rather like someone who is just tickled by the amazing performance he has seen. I don't think I've ever heard a commentator as good as him and I've been watching for 35 years or more.
Mark is a nice person. But Ted is the best commentator that has ever been. Actually, I could live with Ben Agusto also.
 
I get the name pronunciation error, but I'll admit to being baffled about "skaters get penalized for falling over"? Or is her error in a part that was lost in condensing whatever she says that I've never noticed the few times I've heard her :scratch2:?
I would concede that at times, name pronunciation could be cultural. Or just difficult. They are for me. But I would try to pronounce the name of a multi world champion. (Dont ask me to roll Rs) . But other times, it could be laziness. I have a speech impediment, but I dont portray myself as an announcer, either. Go ahead a say "Jerome" and you would be wrong in many cases. So you ask. I have never, till the link I posted, heard anyway say something about skaters falling over. Maybe that is cultural also. Nothing wrong with providing the ISU definition of a "fall" and its scoring in slack times as its important for many reasons. I am gonna listen to B. at the link and see what I think. I am sorry , but Chris just ruins things for me. He would be great for golf.
 
Noonan is GREAT. Literally anyone is better than US commentators... but nobody comes close to Mark Hanretty. He's knowledgeable, positive, extremely exciting, and yet relatable and able to let out a giggle once in awhile that doesn't sound unprofessional, but rather like someone who is just tickled by the amazing performance he has seen. I don't think I've ever heard a commentator as good as him and I've been watching for 35 years or more.

I'm fond of Noonan, too. It was 2022 and if you listened to Noonan call the action for men's singles at the OLYG, you'd think you were watching an entirely different OLYG than the one with U.S. commentators. It really can make or break an event.
 
Skaters do get penalized for falling. Should Belinda Noonan lie? I think not. Further, U.S. NBC commentators mispronounced Yuzuru Hanyu every season. If Americans can't pronounce a well-known skater's name correctly, I sure as heck don't expect a higher standard to be applied to someone who isn't American.
I am reminded of a comment by Gen. Patton to an English crowd. To Paraphrase him, "The US and England are two countries separated by by a common language" I just watched B. and her male co announcer at the Asia games. The closed caption software had about as much trouble understanding them as I did, but he did better at being interpreted.
 
I am reminded of a comment by Gen. Patton to an English crowd. To Paraphrase him, "The US and England are two countries separated by by a common language" I just watched B. and her male co announcer at the Asia games. The closed caption software had about as much trouble understanding them as I did, but he did better at being interpreted.

I could barely even hear the audio - hardly the norm for skating events.
 
I would concede that at times, name pronunciation could be cultural. Or just difficult. They are for me. But I would try to pronounce the name of a multi world champion. (Dont ask me to roll Rs) . But other times, it could be laziness. I have a speech impediment, but I dont portray myself as an announcer, either. Go ahead a say "Jerome" and you would be wrong in many cases. So you ask. I have never, till the link I posted, heard anyway say something about skaters falling over. Maybe that is cultural also. Nothing wrong with providing the ISU definition of a "fall" and its scoring in slack times as its important for many reasons. I am gonna listen to B. at the link and see what I think. I am sorry , but Chris just ruins things for me. He would be great for golf.
I meant does she say "fall over" where an American would say "fall down" or just "fall"? That could sound a bit odd, I guess. I think I've only heard her once or twice, so I never noticed. In theory, a dictionary will give a slightly different meaning to each, but in practice any Brits I've heard discussing falls will say "fall over" rather than fall/fall down. As somebody with a foot on either side of the Atlantic, so to speak, I use both terms. (And I'm probably a very rare Scot who can't roll Rs. :slink:I can't whistle either. Something to do with palate shape, I'm told.)
 
Mark is a nice person. But Ted is the best commentator that has ever been. Actually, I could live with Ben Agusto also.
See, I can't. Listen. To Ted Barton. Because this. Is how. He speaks.

I like commentators who know the sport, but also tell it like it is. It's figure skating, not Eurovision. Meaning, it's a sport and not (just) a show. It's a sport where many problems have come to light in recent years and many well know characters disappear without explanation (unless you follow social media). I think it's fine to mention and clarify these situations for the viewers. I think Ted has always been quiet about many things that are wrong with our sport and even glorified many problematic practices.

But my main problem is that in a sport, not everything is a good effort and a good attempt. If you knew nothing about the sport and listened to Ted, you wouldn't be able to learn much or understand why someone is first and someone is last.

Who were the guys who got sacked after that time they forgot to switch their mics off? Simon and Nicky or what was it?

I enjoy Mark's commentary, but occasionally get slightly annoyed by his very French pronunciation of French names :biggrin: Us FS fans truly can never be happy.

Anyway, how do we get a pronunciation cheat sheet to Chris in time for Worlds?
 
anyone know what can we expect for merch? when does it normally go on sale at the venue?
 
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