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Well, a new player, anyway. Too early to say who is THE Olympic favorite, but the more the merrier.

I do expect that the 2026 Olympic ladies' champion will be someone who presents two triple Axels.
Sorry for going on off-topic but while I agree that statistically, if there are more Women with two Triple Axels it's more likely that at least one of them stays on her feet all along both programs and gets rewarded with high Components scores just because, there are still very few and we don't have a good idea of their health and consistency yet. I wouldn't call it an unwise bet, but still a bet? If a bet anyway, it's better to take it this early in the season because if we have three stable two-triple-axelers(?) at the end of the Grand Prix season, the odds for Olympics will be much less rewarding. :biggrin:
 
So, I haven't been following figure skating since the end of last season basically, am a bit out of the loop and not really interested in rewatching the whole event. Any must-watch performances you guys recommend? So far I've seen Kaori's short, Lilah and Lewis's free (whyyyyy a medley, just do Loch Lomond!!!) and Adam's free.
Nakai's short program.

Stellato Dudek and Deschamp's short program.

Fradji and Fourneaux's free dance.

Fournier Beaudry and Cizeron's free dance.

Lauriault and Legac's free dance.

Selevko's short program.

Pavlova and Sviatchenko's short program (terrible music but much improved on components).

Both of Sumiyoshi's programs.

Schild's short program?
 
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Sorry for going on off-topic but while I agree that statistically, if there are more Women with two Triple Axels it's more likely that at least one of them stays on her feet all along both programs and gets rewarded with high Components scores just because, there are still very few and we don't have a good idea of their health and consistency yet. I wouldn't call it an unwise bet, but still a bet? If a bet anyway, it's better to take it this early in the season because if we have three stable two-triple-axelers(?) at the end of the Grand Prix season, the odds for Olympics will be much less rewarding. :biggrin:
Well, I was trying not to mention the name Petrosyan on this GP de France thread. :)
 
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Nathan Chen was a much better artist/skater than the current quad god. Sorry but he was very beautiful to watch with great posture and refinement. It's hard to find an angle from where he didn't look good.

YMMV
Nathan Chen was a very musically adept skater. He played the piano & he had ballet and gymnastics training, and it showed. As Kurt Browning once said, "Nathan Chen does not skate like anyone else" who came before him. I agree. Nathan brought his own unique style, and with the help of his choreographers, he ushered in a new way of expressing one's personality on the ice, which had a significant impact. This, in addition to his multiple quad expertise and technical efficiency. For sure, he wasn't perfect in every aspect, e.g., not having the best flow out on his jumps. But, with the help of coach, Rafael A, Nathan was one of the best strategists in terms of laying out his jump placement and pacing himself over the course of each season.

As Chris Howarth said in his recent coverage about both Nathan and Ilia, 'their strengths are mental focus and innate confidence,' or words to that effect. As far as Ilia's artistic abilities, I think he's still exploring what he can uniquely accomplish on the ice artistically, while wielding the expected multiple quads, which he makes look so effortless. At this point in time, it appears to me that Ilia is moreso competing against himself, while of course keeping an eye on the rest of the field. But it's largely about challenging himself to safely navigate new heights. He's certainly proving that he doesn't need to compete with the quad-axel every time out in order to dominate the field.

In regard to having artistry, Ilia clearly has artistic abilities which he displayed in his beautiful performance at the Legacy on Ice tribute. It's just difficult to fully concentrate on effectively incorporating aesthetic nuances while consistently executing multiple quads in high-stakes competitive performances. He is certainly trying to forge a creative path with the help of his choreographers, but he's not doing it in ways everyone likes or agrees with.
 
Nathan Chen was a much better artist/skater than the current quad god. Sorry but he was very beautiful to watch with great posture and refinement. It's hard to find an angle from where he didn't look good.

YMMV

I think people would relate and open up more to comments like this if they were prefaced with "In my opinion,..."

It's very "ok" to have an opinion, everyone is entitled! :giggle:
 
It would be nice to see Malinin reduce some quads and really focus more on presentation, skating skills and artistry. I think with the right choreographer, choice of music and more time could make a heck of a difference.

I feel like Egadze has really improved on his artistry this season.

Siao Him Fa really rebounded in the FS, and I like this selection of music! I'm hoping this gives him confidence going into next event.
 
Nakai indeed "stole the show" in the women's event. I hope the pressure doesn't get to her going into Skate Canada.

“I never expected to win,” said Nakai. “I’m extremely happy, but I don’t want this to create any strange pressure for me going into my next event. I just want to enjoy the moment."
 
What I found interesting in Pairs was that Stellato-Dudek said she was confused about another team skating to their first choice of music for the short program (despite it being a monetary copyright issue for them).

She went on to talk about how Ghilardi and Ambrosini had the same theme in the FS as they did two years ago, and now they are both skating to "Poeta" in their FS.
 
I wasn't sure how I was going feel watching Fournier Beaudry and Cizeron, but I have to say I was mesmerized by their FD. Absolutely captivated!

I adore Fear and Gibson, but would really like to see them do something different. Everything is always "fun, cheeky, or safe." I want to see them take some risks!!

I thought that Guignard and Fabbri had a great RD, but the protocols show 3 of 10 music violations. Hope they get that worked out! And I love their FD this season!
 
What I found interesting in Pairs was that Stellato-Dudek said she was confused about another team skating to their first choice of music for the short program (despite it being a monetary copyright issue for them).
I have a guess as to what happened there though. She wanted to use a cover recorded by her brother, so if it was just something shared amongst the family, I can see how it would cost more for them to use it rather than the original version or another published cover.
 
What I found interesting in Pairs was that Stellato-Dudek said she was confused about another team skating to their first choice of music for the short program (despite it being a monetary copyright issue for them).
I think it would have been very special for Deanna to skate to a cover sung by her brother, especially going to the Olympics with this. But Carmina Burana is a great fit for them. It has a similar drive and intensity as Oxygène did, at least that's how I feel about it.
 
I have a guess as to what happened there though. She wanted to use a cover recorded by her brother, so if it was just something shared amongst the family, I can see how it would cost more for them to use it rather than the original version or another published cover.
Yes, she said as much which is in the article. I'm talking about her confusion that another team can skate to the music, although not sung by her brother.
 
Yes, she said as much which is in the article. I'm talking about her confusion that another team can skate to the music, although not sung by her brother.
That is the difference though. If this other team is using a version of the music that's already been published, original or cover, it has some rights already associated with it.

Because she wanted to use something done by her brother, if it's an unlicensed cover, that's where it would probably cost them more. They'd have to pay for him actually having recorded the cover, and whatever other fees they needed to pay, too.
 
It would be nice to see Malinin reduce some quads and really focus more on presentation, skating skills and artistry. I think with the right choreographer, choice of music and more time could make a heck of a difference.

I feel like Egadze has really improved on his artistry this season.

Siao Him Fa really rebounded in the FS, and I like this selection of music! I'm hoping this gives him confidence going into next event.
I loved watching Adam flying around the ice, expertly and efficiently slaying those jumps with greater control and confidence than we've seen since his injury struggles. His fp performance was so exciting and delightful, especially in his home country. Adam is so adorable. 😊 Chris Howarth had said after Ilia's sp that Adam should check out how Ilia does not draw his picking leg back too far on the lutz, which helps to ensure more precise landings. I wonder if Adam heard about that advice and made those adjustments on his lutz in the fp. 🤔 Egadze has definitely improved. And I have heard others say what a sweet person he is, which allows me to warm up to his skating as he tries to bring out more of his personality to enhance his jump expertise.

I re-watched Adam's and Ilia's programs, and Mihhails's programs; Laurence & Guillame's FD in ice dance several times, along with another look at the rest of the top five FDs; and a few of the pairs teams. I suppose I should check out Ami Nakai again, too, but I didn't. I thought Isabeau Levito looked very good in both programs, despite her mistake in the fp keeping her off the podium. I also liked seeing Torgashev pull up from last. He wasn't horrible in the sp either. He held it together after the pop on his opening jump in the sp, but he lost too many points due to that crucial misstep.

I do not see a scenario in this sport where Ilia Malinin will be reducing his quads in programs. Especially not with the numbers values of quads and technical requirements of the men's field, as currently constituted. In any case, Malinin has been smart about pulling back on performing the quad-axel. It would be nice if the ISU branched out more into developing artistic-focused competitions where everyone is allowed to express their creativity rather than the usual over-focus on technical requirements, including having to spin a certain number of revolutions with strict changes-of-position. IMO, there needs to be more freedom of expression in free programs, rather than the cookie-cutter requirements that tend to make program layouts predictable, and often disconnected to the music.
 
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