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LLMs are notoriously terrible at math
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They can't even count the number of letters in a word! That is bad indeed.
They are also notorious for plagiarizing; that is their whole premise.
And don't get me started on AI hallucinations!
Garbage in, garbage out. That AI thing posted by me was an inside joke since whats-his-name posted 2 separate generative AI rubbish conclusions about Ice Dance, leaving out what was needed to even arrive at a correct conclusion. Interesting how several people suddenly liked AI if it's used to put someone's head in the guillotine they dislike, even if the result is completely erroneous.
Just to go back a bit to the positives of this competition, I want to praise Miura Kao. There's just something so Hanyu-like about the way he skates, where you have that recklessness and explosive nature with his speed, and yet the sensitivity that he showcased in his step sequence in the long program... to me, if he gets past his injuries and improves some of his spin positions, he'll really be the next big thing. Even the way he enters and exits his jumps is so exciting, without needing additional "transitions" just for the sake of them. His SP was the best choreographed one this season - like for me if Sui/Han weren't there, he'd have the best SP across the entire sport this season.
Jin Boyang didn't skate too fast in this comp, and that SP is a total misfire and deserved rather low composition score, but what I really liked was how the combo spin went with the cadence of the music in his LP. Seems random to point out, and his positions could be better (apart from the camel which has nice stretch), but you see so few spins going to the music at all nowadays. Oh, technically precise acceleration feature too. And thank god for the smile in the step sequence, because the competition ended up needing it.
Cha Junhwan - not a fan, and think he's overscored as I've stated before, but I'll give credit to his speed and flow across the ice when he's at his peak. I also really like how he hits nice shapes in his spins when he's on.
Jin Boyang didn't skate too fast in this comp, and that SP is a total misfire and deserved rather low composition score, but what I really liked was how the combo spin went with the cadence of the music in his LP. Seems random to point out, and his positions could be better (apart from the camel which has nice stretch), but you see so few spins going to the music at all nowadays. Oh, technically precise acceleration feature too. And thank god for the smile in the step sequence, because the competition ended up needing it.
Cha Junhwan - not a fan, and think he's overscored as I've stated before, but I'll give credit to his speed and flow across the ice when he's at his peak. I also really like how he hits nice shapes in his spins when he's on.
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Was going through my posting history a little and I hate to have been proven right like this.
Depending on what happens in his personal life and competitively with the new rules starting next season I wonder if USFS has overshot their goal this time around.
I've seen the narrative get denied by Team USA stans and Ilia himself, a little, but facts are facts- 5 quads are not easy. Even if he has dismissed transitional content compared to previous OGMs, what Malinin is doing right now is hard on his body. Physically and mentally. If I was him I'd be fuming right now.
More credit where it's due, Siao Him Fa's full body movement in his step sequence, as well as that slide with a full turn with his back nearly touching the ice in his choreography sequence are SO hard to do, that I feel he ended up getting too little credit even with the bombed performance.
It's a corny, formless program IMO, but he deserves applause for his commitment to the movement put into it.
It's a corny, formless program IMO, but he deserves applause for his commitment to the movement put into it.
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Kao Miura has been one of the two main unlucky Men skaters in these Olympic Games, with his boots along both programs (the other one being Petr Gumennik with his Copyright issues on his Short Program alone, not allowing him either of his latest and fittest programs). Fortunately, he's scheduled for World Championships.
Where do you think that Junhwan Cha has been overscored? I mean, in the past some of his underrotations have been overlooked but here, I found him rather underscored!
3A technique, Lutz edge, so on.
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So, with his comparatively low Components, you may think that he was scored correctly overall?
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The LLM reference cracked me up because LLM can also refer to Master of Laws, which is a postgraduate law degree.
Having worked with lawyers all my life, I can confirm that many of them are also terrible at math. Then again, math isn't exactly my strong suit, either. So there's that...
I think his score is still too high. He had a pretty massive splat, and skated tentatively in order to land his jumps after that. I also don't feel his choreography is any good - that also applies to his short program. I wouldn't say, as an example, comparing his SP with Kao's that the transitions or the movement in the step sequence were well-chosen in relation with the music. He shows decent body awareness in some parts (ina bauer and some of his spin positions) but that's it.
For the LP, I'd really only go 8.25 for performance taking the fall and him getting back up into account, 8.5 for skating skill, and 8 for choreography. That's an average of 8.25. He got an 87 in comparison.
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Gumennik also had his laces tear during the landing of 4F in SP. Unlucky.
But, they tore at the toe of the boot, not up top. Lucky.
He managed to add that 2T to 4F despite the break, and finish the program without referee's call and a broken lace dangling around. Lucky.
All and all, Gumennik showed remarkable resilience and good cheer. I have an immense respect for him and his sixth place overall.
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I understand your Performance and Choreography remarks (although I find them severe), but, less than 9 in Skating Skills for him? Would you give less than 5 to a cleanish program by... a certain skater we won't name and whose Skating Skills suddenly awake with the step into a jump and fall back into deep slumber immediately after?
Skating skills are to be judged on the day. I wouldn't say he skated to the fullest of his ability in terms of speed or flow here, and the step sequence could really be done better in all regards, IMO.
Even Kagiyama as I recall stumbled a few times here and there in his program. At his best, I'd say he deserves 9.5. Here, obviously he deserved less.
Cha also finished behind the music here BTW, which certainly should lower his performance score further.
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I should really rewatch the performances! I haven't been able to watch a real slow down to see precisely the underrotations either.
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don't worry, he make it to the most prestigious award of the centuryI was so sad that Vladimir Litvintsev didn't make the FS. I really wanted to see his free skate. But he said he would be at Worlds if everything goes ok with his visa.
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A lot happened in the Men's Free Skate. But I want to highlight and recognize the skaters who had successful free skates! My personal list for this is Jun, Andrew, and Donovan. All three recovered from mistakes in their free skates and gave heartfelt performances. Andrew was fierce, Jun was smooth, and Donovan was joyous. Honorable mention to Max because, although the jumps were off, the program was so pleasing to watch. I also enjoyed Matteo's free skate.
Here's to the good free skates!
Here's to the good free skates!
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Yes at the very last minute Petr's music was deemed in conflict with copyrights so he had to get new music very last minute so his artistry took a hit.
