I just think that Hamilton, like Browning, was shaken by how badly so many of the men skated, including Chan. They were both probably rooting for Chan (and maybe a couple of the other men) to do better. Hamilton knows Chan well and has done skating shows with him, so it's clear he took Chan's loss pretty badly. Bezic also looked very subdued and unhappy when she, Hamilton & Hammond were doing the post-LP wrap-up.
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I just think that Hamilton, like Browning, was shaken by how badly so many of the men skated, including Chan. They were both probably rooting for Chan (and maybe a couple of the other men) to do better. Hamilton knows Chan well and has done skating shows with him, so it's clear he took Chan's loss pretty badly. Bezic also looked very subdued and unhappy when she, Hamilton & Hammond were doing the post-LP wrap-up.
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All I can say is that I enjoyed Daisuke the most & will miss him so much.
How am I going to cope next season without Daisuke & Akiko
How am I going to cope next season without Daisuke & Akiko
It seems from the comments here that if you're counting on Hanyu landing a 4S or Chan delivering a clean skate it's pretty much "mostly you lose, let's hope to God that you will one time win that one". As an outsider, I would say it does nothing for the sport, not only that the champion falls, but that he performs so visibly shaken and tight and yet he WINS, not only the medal on account of his brillian SP, but actually the LP too.
After 4 Continents last month, it sounded like Adam Rippon (& Jeremy Ten) might be considering retirement.
When you are in your 20's and you start to finish several spots off your National podium, missing the World team, and not making the 4 Continents podium, it becomes difficult to have the motivation to continue. You not only lose GP spots, but also your spot on the National team and some of the funding that goes with it.
Jeremy Ten of Canada is in the same position. Unless you come from a wealthy family, it becomes very expensive to pay for all your expenses without national funding. So on top of the psychological challenges of motivating yourself, the practicalities of the $$ issue become a factor, too.
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It is not like Yuzuru came out of nowhere and will retire now that he has the Olympic Gold. He isn't even World Champion, yet. A lot of people predicted four years ago, when he won the Junior World Title that he is a future World and Olympic Champion. So he did perform year after year, day after day. He deserves this as much as Chan would have deserved it.
I feel underwhelmed by Denis Tens performance, after watching once more. I kind of liked him better when he was younger. In 2010, I really adored him. I'm happy that he has a Worlds silver and a Olympic bronze, but for me nowadays he is just a little boring to watch. He looked stiff and too concentrated. I think skating that early was the best for him. I never would've thought that all the guys behind him would underperform like this, so I'm really still surprised he managed to hang on.
I think it's true that (with a few exceptions) the Canadian skating commentators are better than the American ones (although a couple of the 'American' ones are actually Canadian sometimes - eg. Bezic!) One of the reasons may be that some of the Canadian commentators are certified Technical Specialists under the new system and understand the COP system well. Eg. Tracy Wilson took the ISU Tech. Specialist course a number of years ago to get certified, and I believe that Carol Lane has done so as well.
It may also be because some of the Canadian commentators (eg. Kurt Browning, Tracy Wilson, Carol Lane, etc.) are more involved with the current system and its skaters since some of them are still choreographing programs or coaching. Browning has worked with several Men's skaters in the past few years, and I think Tracy has, too. And obviously Carol Lane's day-job when she's not commentating is being a full-time Ice Dance coach for some of Canada's top ice-dance teams.
Bezic and Hamilton have kind of been out of the mix for a while, and I don't think either one is a Tech. Specialist. Same goes for Johnny and Tara. Johnny did compete under COP for several years, but he's not an expert in all its aspects, and Tara certainly isn't since she competed on the old 6.0 system.
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Yes, he was on the verge of tears. I think he was really empathizing with Patrick since he was in such a similar situation at the Sarajevo Olympics. He was the 3 time world champ going in with so much pressure. He skated a less than stellar FS, but won the gold nonetheless. He was saved, at least in part, by his performance in the figures. It was not the way he wanted to win, and he faced quite lot of negative reactions. I imagine he was thinking how if he were been skating now, without the figures segment, he would have won silver instead of gold, just like Chan. I think he was reliving some emotions from his own Olympics as well as really feeling for Chan and Hanyu not winning in the ways they had hoped.
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- The reporter sees there's an opening for more tears
He can't answer.
She asks one last question: "Will we see you again as a pair skater?"
"I need time. I need to rest. I have a character that's not easy. So I don't know if I'd find a good partner." (Philippe Candeloro says "If you want you and me can skate together" - thankfully, I don't think Brian heard it.)
He just ends with "je vous embrasse tous". (I hug you all)
That was emotional, you should all watch it, even if you don't speak french. A great guy leaves the scene.
I hate it when reporters purposely asked questions like that just to get "drama". Anything for ratings, right? (I don't know French, and know nothing about the happenings with his mother, though that doesn't stop me from hating on reporter tactics). LOL @ Phillipe Candeloro, always the character. I hope Brian heard it and take up on his offer!
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Okay, that sounds fair. But I would expect a bit more professionalism. It was more understandable in Vancouver when he was calling Joannie Rochette's SP and he started breaking up. But that was more a HUMAN feeling, I'd be crying too if someone recently lost a loved one, especially a parent and you could practically touch the emotion she was feeling. But to be near tears over just a bad result? I'd like him to hold it in a bit better. But maybe that's why he's had this gig for so long, he's in touch with his feelings and I suppose America likes that sort of thing.... makes him more relateable I suppose.
I think that we forget that Scott and Sandra aren't just reporters researching a subject. They're part of that world. They know the skaters and have shared some aspect of their lives. Also, the whole buildup of tension year after year about Canada's need for a men's gold medalist must become crushing at times. Surely it affects not just the skater in position to win (or not) but the people around him. Look at how keyed up we get just sitting at home worrying about our favorites, whom we may have seen live just once or twice, or not at all. I think it's entirely appropriate that Scott and Sandra would be emotional at a moment like this, especially because they must be experiencing such a tangle of conflicting reactions. Also, they're probably working long hours right now and must be pretty exhausted, which removes a lot of the filters from people's behavior. All in all, they're not just observers; they're inevitably part of the story.
Just imagine the Romeo & Juliet soundtrack program from 2012 here. That would've been a climax, that was fighting Yuzuru at his best and will always be his signature program. All in all this night just made me realize how special 2012 in Nice was, and I am angry at myself that I didn't pay money to see this competition live back then.
I just hope that Yuzuru will reinvent himself, and if that means leaving Orser behind, so be it. Maybe Daisuke can choreograph his programs.
I was in Nice, watched R&J live and it was like an absolutely violent and perfect emotional storm, just umbelievable .
I won’t forget it for the rest of my life for sure.
Yuzuru Hanyu won the OGM because he is YUZURU HANYU. Plushy predicted it correctly in 2012
.The thought I'm left with after re watching the performances is that while Chan made a lot of progress since the last worlds in getting his quads more consistent, in the end, it was largely his wonky triple axle that did him in. Maybe, they should have fixed his technique on that jump before focusing on quads.
That and apparently you really shouldn't give up on your program after a mistake, because you just never know.
That and apparently you really shouldn't give up on your program after a mistake, because you just never know.
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I thought he already said that in 2010...? But I'm really not sure ^^
Plush tweeted he was proud and happy for Yuzuru too, and I think already before the competition there was this "He says I'm his hero, but now he is mine" quote... Yuzuru could probably burst with joy
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I don't think anyone can help Canada... except maybe a voodoo exorcist?
Boston had a stronger one and they eventually broke it and won the World Series (as a Yankees fan it pains me to type that).
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I wouldn't blame Chan. Blame COP. All the skaters can do is come and skate. I say this as a Hanyu fan. I often wonder if the penalties on falls should be more than a one point deduction. Hanyu's tech base was 9 points higher.. If Cop has taught us anything it's that all you have to do is rotate a jump and you'll get points for it. Not a flaw in Patrick or Yuzuru bit the system itself.
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All you have to do is rotate a jump? I mean that is WAAYYY more difficult than landing one which is quarter of a turn or even half a turn short on the ice a la sarah hughes and shizulka arakawa. to be honest id rather see a program where the jumps are rotated but there may be falls than cheated ones pretending to be clean.
His base value usually is ~8 points higher than Chan's, but yesterday Hanyu didn't get any credit for the 3S in his 3Lz-1Lo-3S sequence, which made the difference in BV smaller.
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If this was really the OBM Hunger Games, Peter Liebers should have won by default.
Ok, I watched it once more because I wasn't really sure, if Yuzuru really deserved to win the free when I first watched it, but I think he did deserve it. His mistakes weren't that severe and plenty as Patricks and he had a clean short to back it up. Skating Skill wise Patrick was better, Yuzuru really had to fight at the end. I don't know if Patrick will retire, but it'll be hard to defend his World Title in Japan. He should've concentrated on his triple axel more in preparation - that jump just doesn't seem to work anymore.
Ok, I watched it once more because I wasn't really sure, if Yuzuru really deserved to win the free when I first watched it, but I think he did deserve it. His mistakes weren't that severe and plenty as Patricks and he had a clean short to back it up. Skating Skill wise Patrick was better, Yuzuru really had to fight at the end. I don't know if Patrick will retire, but it'll be hard to defend his World Title in Japan. He should've concentrated on his triple axel more in preparation - that jump just doesn't seem to work anymore.
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Not as severe? He had two falls, a missed 3 jump combination, and a scratchy 3A-2T. Chan had 4T hand down, 3A step out, doubled Salchow, 2A step out. It was 4 mistakes from both of them, and the fact that Hanyu had 2 falls while Patrick had none says enough about their severity. Coupled with the short, Patrick had 5. I think the TES was fine, the PCS probably should have been Chan's by a bigger margin (so he'd win the free), but Hanyu should've still won overall.
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