Men's FS

iloveaxel · Feb 9, 2007

lutzskate said:
His triple axel at nationals was gorgeous.:sheesh:

He failed to land one 3A tonight. Those marks were ridiculous. It's really not fair to other skaters. As a male skater, he has to do 3A, period. Many years ago, many many male skaters were doing quad. It's really regressed a lot technically, Jeff bears responsibility.

If he can't jump, do ice dancing. It's ridiculous to reward such mediocre skaters with those PCS. No wonder figure skating is turning ordinary folks off.

slutskayafan21 · Feb 9, 2007

Evan with the same PCS as Buttle??! Thank goodness I dont watch the crock that is mens skating anymore. :chorus: The WWF has more merit to it.

cloudkicker09 · Feb 9, 2007

Hsuhs said:
Oh well looks like that deeply disliked Evan will win after all.

I never said deeply dislike, I am just simply not a fan but mazel tov to him on this victory.

Let's keep it clean folks, no crude comments please.

wxyz1234533 · Feb 9, 2007

iloveaxel said:
He could not do a 3A, always depends on PCS. He should go to the ladies' competition.

you don't need to put your biased opinion EVERYWHERE!

Joesitz (RIP) · Feb 9, 2007

It seems Jeff was clean in the LP. Am I correct?

Jeremy (the new boy on the block) scoring over 200.

Poor Eman. I wonder if Canada will consider sending someone else to Worlds.

I haven't read anything about Evan yet. He's not far behind but he has some catch up to do.

Joe

Spun Silver · Feb 9, 2007

Rats. Rats, rats, rats.
Oh, OK: congratulations, Evan.

I sure hope Jeremy hangs on to the bronze!

Melody · Feb 9, 2007

Jeff can still be proud of himself

As my husband says, there's no shame to being outskated. If Evan had the kind of performance tonight that his marks would suggest, then I guess he deserved the win, but Jeff can still be very proud of what he has done, especially with "the season that wasn't!"

Way to go, Jeff! Keep on working your way to Tokyo - one step at a time.

cloudkicker09 · Feb 9, 2007

iloveaxel said:
He failed to land one 3A tonight. Those marks were ridiculous. It's really not fair to other skaters. As a male skater, he has to do 3A, period. Many years ago, many many male skaters were doing quad. It's really regressed a lot technically, Jeff bears responsibility.

If he can't jump, do ice dancing. It's ridiculous to reward such mediocre skaters with those PCS. No wonder figure skating is turning ordinary folks off.

I have to agree with you, I watch mens skating for technicality, for the QUADs, but nobody does quads anymore b/c COP does not reward enough for it. Its sad and it is killing the sport and turning off the fans

rochettefan · Feb 9, 2007

Yeah that really shocked me too to see him have the same PCS as Jeff. He definitely didn't deserve that based on what I've seen previously of both their long programs.

SailorGalaxia518 · Feb 9, 2007

If Evan does the quad-triple in the short program, he will be a contender for the gold medal at worlds.

enlight78 · Feb 9, 2007

Buttle couldn't have skated his long as well as he did at nationals. If he did his PCS would have been a lot closer to eighty. Evan pulls it off again. I was pulling for Buttle a lot.

slutskayafan21 · Feb 10, 2007

rochettefan said:
Yeah that really shocked me too to see him have the same PCS as Jeff. He definitely didn't deserve that based on what I've seen previously of both their long programs.

I used to get annoyed at Lysacek's overscoring but now with Lambiel and Plushenko out I dont really have any interest in the mens event anymore. Now I just use his scores as comedy, they are such a joke, they are funny. I guess I would feel sorry for the skaters who were ripped off by Evan's extreme overscoring except I have too little interest in the mens event until atleast one of Plushenko or Lambiel returns to really care. So I am not emotionaly invested enough to care, I just laugh at it and enjoy the sattire of Evan's farcial scores similar to how I used to with Gritschuk/Platov in the dance event. :laugh:

lutzskate · Feb 10, 2007

iloveaxel said:
Many years ago, many many male skaters were doing quad. It's really regressed a lot technically, Jeff bears responsibility.

This statement is so ridiculous, it's hilarious! Yeah, Jeff is responsible for every other male skater not landing quads in competition. lol What an intelligent argument. :agree:

Hsuhs · Feb 10, 2007

It's Carmen that wins.

mylastduchess · Feb 10, 2007

rochettefan said:
Yeah that really shocked me too to see him have the same PCS as Jeff. He definitely didn't deserve that based on what I've seen previously of both their long programs.

WOW how could he score a higher PCS mark than Jeff unless Buttle might have missed a jump or two?

iloveaxel · Feb 10, 2007

rochettefan said:
Yeah that really shocked me too to see him have the same PCS as Jeff. He definitely didn't deserve that based on what I've seen previously of both their long programs.

Of course he deserves those high PCS. He has harder jumps, he did 4toe+3toe. What did Jeff do? Not a single 3A????
Give me a break, Mao can actually beat Jeff if you compare both artistry and technical ability.

I really loathe Jeff. He really drags down skating.

SailorGalaxia518 · Feb 10, 2007

1 Evan LYSACEK USA 159.23 84.43 74.80 7.39 7.11 7.68 7.54 7.68 0.00 #19
2 Jeffrey BUTTLE CAN 146.24 71.94 74.30 7.50 7.29 7.29 7.57 7.50 0.00 #17
3 Christopher MABEE CAN 129.83 68.01 61.82 6.29 5.75 6.29 6.29 6.29 0.00 #12
4 Jeremy ABBOTT USA 128.88 61.60 67.28 6.86 6.50 6.71 6.75 6.82 0.00 #16
5 Kensuke NAKANIWA JPN 121.69 66.47 55.22 5.82 5.29 5.57 5.43 5.50 0.00 #13
6 Jialiang WU CHN 121.17 65.17 56.00 5.89 5.43 5.64 5.61 5.43 0.00 #20
7 Noriyuki KANZAKI JPN 119.24 61.54 58.70 5.89 5.57 5.93 5.96 6.00 1.00 #15
8 Ming XU CHN 112.71 58.99 53.72 5.61 5.18 5.39 5.36 5.32 0.00 #14
9 Emanuel SANDHU CAN 108.69 45.61 64.08 6.54 6.29 6.21 6.54 6.46 1.00 #18
10 Zhixue YANG CHN 101.59 58.59 44.00 4.71 4.18 4.50 4.36 4.25 1.00 #10
11 Yasuharu NANRI JPN 98.95 50.61 51.34 5.46 4.93 5.00 5.21 5.07 3.00 #11
12 Sean CARLOW AUS 84.39 40.83 45.56 4.57 4.32 4.57 4.64 4.68 2.00 #7
13 Joel WATSON NZL 71.48 38.40 33.08 3.57 3.07 3.25 3.36 3.29 0.00 #9
14 Tristan THODE NZL 67.51 33.15 34.36 3.75 3.32 3.36 3.43 3.32 0.00 #8
15 Luis HERNANDEZ MEX 66.59 30.01 37.58 3.96 3.50 3.79 3.75 3.79 1.00 #5
16 Mathieu WILSON NZL 66.15 31.79 34.36 3.57 3.29 3.43 3.46 3.43 0.00 #4
17 Nicholas FERNANDEZ AUS 64.36 26.58 37.78 3.93 3.57 3.82 3.82 3.75 0.00 #6
18 Dean TIMMINS AUS 62.18 30.04 34.14 3.64 3.11 3.39 3.50 3.43 2.00 #3
19 Justin PIETERSEN RSA 59.23 30.21 31.02 3.32 2.93 3.04 3.11 3.11 2.00 #1
20 Adrian ALVARADO MEX 55.82 25.48 31.34 3.14 2.96 3.25 3.25 3.07 1.00 #2
Overall:

1 Evan LYSACEK USA 226.27 4 1
2 Jeffrey BUTTLE CAN 223.96 1 2
3 Jeremy ABBOTT USA 203.22 2 4
4 Christopher MABEE CAN 188.41 8 3
5 Jialiang WU CHN 184.69 6 6
6 Noriyuki KANZAKI JPN 181.58 7 7
7 Kensuke NAKANIWA JPN 177.03 9 5
8 Emanuel SANDHU CAN 173.67 5 9

rain · Feb 10, 2007

cloudkicker09 said:
I have to agree with you, I watch mens skating for technicality, for the QUADs, but nobody does quads anymore b/c COP does not reward enough for it. Its sad and it is killing the sport and turning off the fans

See, I have to disagree with you. Not enough quads is not even remotely killing figure skating or turning off fans. If you watch mens skating solely for the jumps, that's up to you, but I, and I think many others, tune in for a lot more than a jumping contest. It's about spins, footwork, programs — and jumps. COP rewards quads plenty.

slutskayafan21 · Feb 10, 2007

SailorGalaxia518 said:
If Evan does the quad-triple in the short program, he will be a contender for the gold medal at worlds.

I doubt that. You are right that he Evan is one of the most overscored skater ever, but his overscoring will be negated by the overscoring Oda and Takahashi will get by virtue of Worlds being in Japan. If they skate clean at Worlds they will score well over 160 in the long, well over 80 in the short. Joubert will just by virtue of his excellence as a skater this year.

SailorGalaxia518 · Feb 10, 2007

slutskayafan21 said:
I doubt that. You are right that he Evan is one of the most overscored skater ever, but his overscoring will be negated by the overscoring Oda and Takahashi will get by virtue of Worlds being in Japan. If they skate clean at Worlds they will score well over 160 in the long, well over 80 in the short. Joubert will just by virtue of his excellence as a skater this year.

Oh probably.....Knowing my luck :laugh:

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