Evgenia keeps beating skaters at their best with her more than usual skating. It gives an idea about how perfect she is. Has any other skater in history done that? In any other era Osmond would win with ease. She is even better than all Russians. Incredible.y
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The top 5 or the top7? Top 10? And I think you forgot gner-ed. Kostnerkovagner-ed.
Happy with the skaters above Kostner, but not those who are below her that should be above her.
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As she deserves. That thing is a beauty. And I think this makes it the third time this season she maxes out the GOE on that combo internationally.
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I just don't really understand the 3 point difference in between evgenia and her small jumps and Kaetlyn and her monstrous jumps. Also the 1.5 point gap in pcs??? Do not agree... Kaetlyn ice coverage speed and line is wayyyyy better than evgenia IMO
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I adore Anna and I still hope she'll be on the podium, but I'm very happy for Gabby...she's improved so much and she has the full package, imo. I would be upset to see anyone else beating Anna, but I'm ok with this top 3 (for now).
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I kind of agree although her 3Lz even in the 1st half scores higher then Meds 3LO in the 2nd half - so she is fine with that. But if she can move her combo to the 2nd half she would have higher BV then Med and probably even higher TES!
But one judge really hammered Osmond in PCS given her several marks in the 7s - which is just crazy!
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Congratulations to the Canadian ladies! 
Medvedeva slayed as usual, too. Should be an easy win for her, unless Kaetlyn pulls off the unthinkable.
Kaetlyn was honestly underscored a bit... that SP was her best of the season and arguably THE best of the season. I wanna have a lil' chat with judge 3 who gave her 7.75/7.25/8.00/7.25/8.25 was...
Yay Gabby for having the best element of the SP with that amazing 3+3.
Karen and Ashley were gifted by the tech spec on their jump landings.. but at least it keeps the US in the hunt for 3 spots. Poor Japan... and uncharacteristic mistakes from Kostner - I don't think I've ever seen her flub that spin before -- again, judge 3 destroyed her on PCS, 7.50/6.50/7.50/7.00/8.00.
Medvedeva slayed as usual, too. Should be an easy win for her, unless Kaetlyn pulls off the unthinkable.Kaetlyn was honestly underscored a bit... that SP was her best of the season and arguably THE best of the season. I wanna have a lil' chat with judge 3 who gave her 7.75/7.25/8.00/7.25/8.25 was...
Yay Gabby for having the best element of the SP with that amazing 3+3.
Karen and Ashley were gifted by the tech spec on their jump landings.. but at least it keeps the US in the hunt for 3 spots. Poor Japan... and uncharacteristic mistakes from Kostner - I don't think I've ever seen her flub that spin before -- again, judge 3 destroyed her on PCS, 7.50/6.50/7.50/7.00/8.00.
Shin is not tech controller today. He was at JW.
You score all skaters fairly in any competition and you will always have score difference between Evgenia and others as she is clearly better than other skaters including her own country.
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If you mean in terms of competition - next year I think she'll feel that with Zagitova and maybe Tsurskaya(I don't want to give up hope yet) if she can learn to deal with her height/has no major injury issues.
In terms of programs - I think a more nuanced program would do her well.
Tech panel is either totally blind or extremely pro-USA because neither Wagner nor Chen got any URs here. One could think these championships are skated in US again. Most laughable tech panel I have seen for a while. They are really pushing for three spots for US for next season.
Wagner's EXTREMELY clear URs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUClVEc6vig#t=4m17s
Chen's clear UR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzKjxe90Yuc#t=4m31s
| SP | |||||
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| 1 | Evgenia MEDVEDEVA | RUS | 79.01 | 1 | video |
| 2 | Kaetlyn OSMOND | CAN | 75.98 | 2 | video |
| 3 | Gabrielle DALEMAN | CAN | 72.19 | 3 | video |
| 4 | Anna POGORILAYA | RUS | 71.52 | 4 | video |
| 5 | Karen CHEN | USA | 69.98 | 5 | video |
| 6 | Maria SOTSKOVA | RUS | 69.76 | 6 | video |
| 7 | Ashley WAGNER | USA | 69.04 | 7 | video |
| 8 | Carolina KOSTNER | ITA | 66.33 | 8 | video |
| 9 | Wakaba HIGUCHI | JPN | 65.87 | 9 | video |
| 10 | Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA | KAZ | 65.48 | 10 | video |
| 11 | Dabin CHOI | KOR | 62.66 | 11 | video |
| 12 | Rika HONGO | JPN | 62.55 | 12 | video |
| 13 | Mariah BELL | USA | 61.02 | 13 | video |
| 14 | Ivett TOTH | HUN | 61.00 | 14 | video |
| 15 | Mai MIHARA | JPN | 59.59 | 15 | video |
| 16 | Xiangning LI | CHN | 58.28 | 16 | video |
| 17 | Loena HENDRICKX | BEL | 57.54 | 17 | video |
| 18 | Nicole RAJICOVA | SVK | 57.08 | 18 | video |
| 19 | Kailani CRAINE | AUS | 56.97 | 19 | video |
| 20 | Zijun LI | CHN | 56.30 | 20 | video |
| 21 | Angelina KUCHVALSKA | LAT | 55.92 | 21 | video |
| 22 | Laurine LECAVELIER | FRA | 55.49 | 22 | video |
| 23 | Anastasia GALUSTYAN | ARM | 55.20 | 23 | video |
| 24 | Nicole SCHOTT | GER | 54.83 | 24 | video |
| 25 | Shuran YU | SGP | 52.87 | 25 | video |
| 26 | Joshi HELGESSON | SWE | 52.07 | 26 | video |
| 27 | Helery HALVIN | EST | 51.94 | 27 | video |
| 28 | Amy LIN | TPE | 51.86 | 28 | video |
| 29 | Emmi PELTONEN | FIN | 50.74 | 29 | video |
| 30 | Isadora WILLIAMS | BRA | 50.65 | 30 | video |
| 31 | Kerstin FRANK | AUT | 50.54 | 31 | video |
| 32 | Natasha MCKAY | GBR | 50.10 | 32 | video |
| 33 | Yasmine Kimiko YAMADA | SUI | 47.86 | 33 | video |
| 34 | Anne Line GJERSEM | NOR | 46.99 | 34 | video |
| 35 | Anna KHNYCHENKOVA | UKR | 46.98 | 35 | video |
| 36 | Dasa GRM | SLO | 46.63 | 36 | video |
| 37 | Michaela-Lucie HANZLIKOVA | CZE | 32.21 | 37 | video |
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GOEs among the top 3 ladies are interesting to me:
Evgenia and Kaetlyn got virtually the same GOEs for jumps. 1.80 for the combo (Arm variation vs. Huge height/distance) and 1.40 for the solo (Transition in/out vs. Huge height/distance), and 1.00 for 2A ( Arm variation vs. Huge height/distance).
Gaby's 3T+3T got the perfect score of (8) 3 and (1) 2, beating the top two.
Their Stsqs all got lv 4 and GOE of 1.80, 1.50, 1.30 respectively. (ref: Anna lv4 1.60 and Caro lv4 1.50)
Edit; thank you Tolstoj for the correction on the feature of Evgenia's solo jump.
Evgenia and Kaetlyn got virtually the same GOEs for jumps. 1.80 for the combo (Arm variation vs. Huge height/distance) and 1.40 for the solo (Transition in/out vs. Huge height/distance), and 1.00 for 2A ( Arm variation vs. Huge height/distance).
Gaby's 3T+3T got the perfect score of (8) 3 and (1) 2, beating the top two.
Their Stsqs all got lv 4 and GOE of 1.80, 1.50, 1.30 respectively. (ref: Anna lv4 1.60 and Caro lv4 1.50)
Edit; thank you Tolstoj for the correction on the feature of Evgenia's solo jump.
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Really? I thought she was UR (or borderline at best) on her -3T and even her 3L landings. The tech spec might have given her a benefit of the doubt.
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