2014 Cup of China Mens Short Program 11/07

[FTnoona]

He couldn't add the combo after the 3T which was supposed to be a 4T. At least he "saved" the lutz.

He could have added a 2t to tick off the combo requirement but with the way he landed his Lutz, I don't think that was possible.

 

[Matilda]

Yes, he's like Hamlet with PMS isn't he? Not exactly a laff riot of a guy on the ice.

 

[Snow63]

I'm ok with the placing. I'm ok with the scores as well, but if people are complaining about Yuzuru's PCS than I bring out Kovtun.

Yuzuru's PCS are great, I don't know what to complain about. I mean he even has 9.75 from some judges. And he wasn't perfect today, so...
I must say that Max's PCS are really high too. Good for him.

 

[bj80alex]

Kovtun scored a higher PCS including a higher SS than Han? :scratch:

We posed the same question with the same :scratch:

 

[OS]

I'm ok with the placing. I'm ok with the scores as well, but if people are complaining about Yuzuru's PCS than I bring out Kovtun.

Well this pretty much looks like the top 3 is over marked (predetermined PCS) while Richard Dornbush is undermarked in PCS at least consider how they actually did.
LOL at the 9 for interpretation and skating skills for Kovtun.

 

[thoakun]

Completely agree with you, 'top' indeed. :think: Hopefully the FS tomorrow will be better, honestly.

Air pollution and poor ice quality may come into play.This is the second time in the row COC has been disappointing. It may not be the skater's fault.

 

[Snow63]

Well this pretty much looks like the top 3 is over marked (predetermined PCS) while Richard Dornbush is undermarked in PCS at least consider how they actually did.
LOL at the 9 for interpretation and skating skills for Kovtun.

In your opinion.

 

[Mao88]

MEN'S SHORT PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT - updated

1. Maxim KOVTUN (RUS) - 85.96 Short Program, 2nd Copy
2. Yuzuru HANYU (JPN) - 82.95 Short Program, 2nd Copy
3. Han YAN (CHN) - 79.21 Short Program, 2nd Copy
4. Richard DORNBUSH (USA) - 77.23 Short Program, 2nd Copy
5. Alexei BYCHENKO (ISR) - 76.96 Short Program, 2nd Copy
6. Nam NGUYEN (CAN) - 72.85 Short Program, 2nd Copy
7. Misha GE (UZB) - 69.46 Short Program, 2nd Copy
8. Yuhang GUAN (CHN) - 63.69 Short Program, 2nd Copy
9. Jin Seo KIM (KOR) - 62.46 Short Program
10. Yi WANG (CHN) - 57.29 Short Program, 2nd Copy
11. Keiji TANAKA (JPN) - 56.82 Short Program, 2nd Copy

 

[Interspectator]

A quote from Hanyu's post-SP interview.
"It's very regrettable. I'm surprised I'm in second place with the what I did today."
-Hanyu isn't hesitant to say when he's been over scored.

 

[OS]

In your opinion.

Actually not just my opinion, other judges too.

Kovtun got some 2x 8.0 and 3 x 8.25 for his skating skills. I would put him at 8.0
He also received a 7.75 for his interpretation, along with his 8.0 and 3x 8.25s. I would give him 8.0 only because I am being generous to Russia #1 and all

 

[shiroKJ]

Are people seriously nipticking about Hanyu's +3GOE,cus you won't see anything better.It's a shame the camera angle doesn't capture it but he has great height and distance on it as well,plus the entry/exit,overall flow and timing with the music.It checks all boxes
I would have put him between 79-80,even he looked surprised when he saw the scores

He has a really good sense of self-awareness. Hes always either this or when he gets scores he thinks is "gifted". But I agree, it was an overall generous PCS panel, at least for the top few.

 

[Snow63]

Actually not just my opinion, other judges too

Kovtun got some 2x 8.0 and 3 x 8.25 for his skating skills. I would put him at 8.0
He also received a 7.75 for his interpretation, along with his 8.0 and 3x 8.25s. I would give him 8.0 only because I am being generous to Russia #1 and all

Yes. But judges also disagree with you about Dornbush. Double standarts? So typical.

 

[OS]

A quote from Hanyu's post-SP interview.
"It's very regrettable. I'm surprised I'm in second place with the what I did today."
-Hanyu isn't hesitant to say when he's been over scored.

Such a nice and honest young man. Off ice, he is A+ for his conduct.

 

[OS]

Yes. But judges also disagree with you about Dornbush. Double standarts? So typical.

Well judges got a few things right and wrong. Nothing wrong to point those out. Problem with Dornbush is he is not an Jeremy, Adam, Max, Jason. He suffers frmo 4/5th syndrome that limit his PCS potential. But we are talking about what is delivered on the ice today, not predetermined result. I expect his PCS to rise at FS if he delivers. It usually takes the judges 1 or 2 performances before they reward the right PCS.

 

[treeloving]

ํYuzuru improve skating skill and postures so much, and of course his 3A totally deserve +3 GOEs.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Air pollution and poor ice quality may come into play.This is the second time in the row COC has been disappointing. It may not be the skater's fault.

It's mind control at work via HAARP :yes:

This:
http://www.arrl.org/images/view/News/HAARP-3.jpg

Does this:
http://www.opposingviews.com/sites/default/files/featured_image/100614/haarp_featured.jpg

Causing this:
http://wiw.org/~jess/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/splat.gif

 

[Mao88]

MEN'S SHORT PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT - updated

1. Maxim KOVTUN (RUS) - 85.96 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
2. Yuzuru HANYU (JPN) - 82.95 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
3. Han YAN (CHN) - 79.21 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
4. Richard DORNBUSH (USA) - 77.23 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
5. Alexei BYCHENKO (ISR) - 76.96 Short Program, 2nd Copy
6. Nam NGUYEN (CAN) - 72.85 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
7. Misha GE (UZB) - 69.46 Short Program, 2nd Copy
8. Yuhang GUAN (CHN) - 63.69 Short Program, 2nd Copy
9. Jin Seo KIM (KOR) - 62.46 Short Program
10. Yi WANG (CHN) - 57.29 Short Program, 2nd Copy
11. Keiji TANAKA (JPN) - 56.82 Short Program, 2nd Copy

 

[Alba]

Yuzuru's PCS are great, I don't know what to complain about. I mean he even has 9.75 from some judges. And he wasn't perfect today, so...
I must say that Max's PCS are really high too. Good for him.

No, some are complaining that Yuzuru got overscored there. So, I was saying that if Kovtun get 41 then 44 for Yuzuru are well deserved, and even too close.

 

[Snow63]

Well judges got a few things right and wrong. Nothing wrong to point those out. Problem with Dornbush is he is not an Jeremy, Adam, Max, Jason. He suffers frmo 4/5th syndrome that limit his PCS potential. But we are talking about what is delivered on the ice today, not predetermined result. I expect his PCS to rise at FS if he delivers. It usually takes the judges 1 or 2 performances before they reward the right PCS.

Of course. I know exactly what do you think they got wrong. Like I said, double standarts. Like I said, so typical.

Good luck to Dornbush btw, I don't have anything against him or his skating. And I'll be glad for him IF he'll skate good. Just like I was glad for Max today

 

[Alba]

He could have added a 2t to tick off the combo requirement but with the way he landed his Lutz, I don't think that was possible.

You're right. :thumbsup:
I completely forget about 2 jumps when it comes to Yuzuru.