2015 Skate Canada Mens Short Program

[satine]

+GOE breakdown, for those interested:
Yuzuru Hanyu, 6.93
Adam Rippon, 2.73
Alexander Petrov, 1.37
Patrick Chan, 1.13
Keegan Messing, 0.62
Jin Seo Kim, 0.35
Daisuke Murakami, 0.06

Everyone else get overall -GOE.

 

[eta]

It would. The first flight tends to get lower PCS than the second flight.

Wasn't Chan in the first group? Still really really high PCS.

 

[karne]

And people wondered why I freaked a little when I saw that the men's SP at Boston Worlds will be on April Fools' Day...

 

[xibsuarz]

You hear that? Is the sound of my predictions slowly dying after ladies and men tonight

It would. The first flight tends to get lower PCS than the second flight.

Yeah, that did hit Petrov. Yuzuru wouldn't have had much problem since both him and Patrick can get good PCS regardless of their placements, but Alex could have benefited from that, shame about that edge call.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Wasn't Chan in the first group? Still really really high PCS.

Sorry, I meant, earlier groups tend to receive, on the whole, lesser PCS gifts compared to later flights/final flights. Ask Kim at 2013 Worlds.

 

[shiroKJ]

You hear that? Is the wound of my predictions slowly dying after ladies and men tonight

Bandaids don't fix bullet holesssssss

 

[karne]

You hear that? Is the wound of my predictions slowly dying after ladies and men tonight

I don't think ANYONE will come out of this one well.

 

[Lipea]

Yes, I know. You said
& I pointed out his massive GOE- compared to everyone else here, that is. On paper, that is what made the difference.

Well, I obviously didn't say that he was ahead by TECH, because even with his amazing GOE he wasn't by far. I said how can one (even as great as Yuzuru) skater with half of the elements worth get above the clean one just by PCS? Yuzuru's BV was the lowest, and with GOE his TECH was second to last. It is a sport at the end of all. I know there is still no big difference in points between Petrov and Hanyu but it make a big difference for them in FS, because now Petrov will be in the first half, whereas he clearly deserved to be in the second.

 

[Sandpiper]

Wasn't Chan in the first group? Still really really high PCS.

Lower than Yuzu (not going to argue whether that's correct or not, since I didn't see Chan's skate, not to mention Yuzu probably got bonus PCS to "make up" for the unfortunate invalidated combo). Had they been in the same group, I suspect Chan's would've been higher...?

 

[mrrice]

A modern version of the Canadian Curse?

No skater will win Gold on Canadian soil if they're either Canadian or coached by a Canadian.

Oh wait, W/P is leading

WRONG!!!!!!!!! I saw it with my own eyes jamie sale and david pelletier won the 2001 World Championships in Vancouver.

 

[tsuyoboogie]

After the pages and pages of whinging about it, no, I think the point needs to be reinforced.



With the curse that's evidently on this ice I suddenly have no problem with Brendan not getting chosen as Liebers' replacement here.

And suddenly I have no problem with Josh not being here either

That being said, Kawahara who is Liebers' replacement and JinSeo who I believe replaced Josh? actually did quite well with their SPs considering their comparatively limited technical capabilities so...

 

[Lipea]

+GOE breakdown, for those interested:
Yuzuru Hanyu, 6.93
Adam Rippon, 2.73
Alexander Petrov, 1.37
Patrick Chan, 1.13
Keegan Messing, 0.62
Jin Seo Kim, 0.35
Daisuke Murakami, 0.06

Everyone else get overall -GOE.

Pretty bad competition.

 

[karne]

That being said, Kawahara who is Liebers' replacement and JinSeo who I believe replaced Josh? actually did quite well with their SPs considering their comparatively limited technical capabilities so...

Timothy was Joshua's replacement...

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Voddoo knife boot curse? Who isn't in attendance with such powers:think:

 

[shiroKJ]

No but seriously, Yuzu needs to kick some serious butt tomorrow because I need him to go to GPF's.

 

[tsuyoboogie]

Timothy was Joshua's replacement...

oh well then...

 

[Rissa]

Well, I obviously didn't say that he was ahead by TECH, because even with his amazing GOE he wasn't by far. I said how can one (even as great as Yuzuru) skater with half of the elements worth get above the clean one just by PCS? Yuzuru's BV was the lowest, and with GOE his TECH was second to last. It is a sport at the end of all. I know there is still no big difference in points between Petrov and Hanyu but it make a big difference for them in FS, because now Petrov will be in the first half, whereas he clearly deserved to be in the second.

It may be because the zayaking doesn't have any bearing on PCS and that was half of the reason why Hanyu's tech score was so low. Same with Patrick. Invalid jumping passes lower the TECH score, but not PCS.

 

[Sabrina]

I don't know, but with an invalid element and and a fall how could Chan be scored so high? I also think Petrov, Nguien and Ripon must have glad slightly better GOE, and the leader, Murakami, should lead by more points.

 

[tsuyoboogie]

Man, if I was gifted a dollar for every time a japanese male skater uttered the term "kuyashii" I'd be rollin' it! Yuzu himself would make me a mint.

 

[Rissa]

I don't know, but with an invalid element and and a fall how could Chan be scored so high? I also think Petrov, Nguien and Ripon must have glad slightly better GOE, and the leader, Murakami, should lead by more points.

Guys, I know I'm repeating myself, but as a non-fan of Chan, even I could tell the difference between Chan and the others. Petrov was a bit meh (in my personal opinion), Nam was visibly slow and Adam Rippon's program (and I AM a fan of Adam) was a bit of hit and miss. Other than Petrov, other guys fell too which affected their PCS and they didn't the better skating or choreography to hold them up.