2017-2018 Programs by Discipline

[Ender]

I'm expecting great things from their short program for sure. The Shibs always do their homework and I expect thematically they'll be the most "on-point" top team.

I am more excited for their FD.

 

[StitchMonkey]

Adam is going back to last years SP "Let Me Think About It"

https://twitter.com/fs_evolution/status/915925478912995328

 

[el henry]

Adam is going back to last years SP "Let Me Think About It"

https://twitter.com/fs_evolution/status/915925478912995328

Good move! (Not that I heard Karaoke Adam, but I just couldn't....) I also know I'm the only person on the planet who liked his SP last year better than the Broken Bird LP, but I did, so happy on two levels.:yes:

 

[pearly]

I liked that program too. But this is very last minute, it must have been decided earlier.

 

[SubRosa]

I also know I'm the only person on the planet who liked his SP last year better than the Broken Bird LP, but I did, so happy on two levels.:yes:

Nope, you're not the only one! The LP was fine, but that SP has so much attitude. I'm delighted he's bringing it back, may it serve him well. :thumbsup:

 

[friedbanana]

I still want to hear his cover of Diamonds though

 

[Eeyora]

Adam is going back to last years SP "Let Me Think About It"

https://twitter.com/fs_evolution/status/915925478912995328

What’s going on with Team Raf and the switching back to old programs? I won’t be shocked if Mariah Bell is next. Her long this year just doesn’t sing...

 

[skylark]

I present to you The Warhorse List for the 2017-2018 Season featuring an awful amount of Moulin Rouge and La La Land.

Feel free to correct it if you see any mistakes.

That's a very helpful chart! thanks. I've been thinking, though. There's not really any resemblance between "Roxanne" and "Your Song." So I don't really see it as a repetition in the same sense as some repetitions are. Of course, I feel the same way about, for instance, "All I Ask of You" and "Music of the Night." They're both POTO, of course, but they're not the same piece.

So when I think about the variety in Moulin Rouge music, I don't see it as being nearly as bad as it seems. YMMV. GS'ers are having the vapors over it, though, it's true.

 

[el henry]

That's a very helpful chart! thanks. I've been thinking, though. There's not really any resemblance between "Roxanne" and "Your Song." So I don't really see it as a repetition in the same sense as some repetitions are. Of course, I feel the same way about, for instance, "All I Ask of You" and "Music of the Night." They're both POTO, of course, but they're not the same piece.

So when I think about the variety in Moulin Rouge music, I don't see it as being nearly as bad as it seems. YMMV. GS'ers are having the vapors over it, though, it's true.

I like the list, but I completely agree about MR music; if it weren't for figure skating, I would have no idea that Your Song and Tango de Roxanne were from the same movie, which I have never seen. And the fact that everyone uses some sad cover from MR of Your Song instead of Elton John:disapp:

I think Tango de Roxanne is probably a warhorse on its own

 

[SnowWhite]

I thought skylark made a good point, and it made me curious as to what Moulin Rouge songs those skaters are skating to.

Juniors
- D'ALESSANDRO / WADDELL (CAN) FD: Your Song (Elli Goulding version), Original Arrangement/A Wonderful Love by Karl Hugo, Your Song (Ewan McGregor)
- FABBRI / PIETRANTONIO (CAN) FD: El Tango de Roxanne, Come What May (instrumental)
- Caya SCHEEPENS (NED) FS: Closing Credits: Bolero (original film version)
- Guko ENDO (USA) FS: El Tango de Roxanne
- Leona ROGIC (SRB) FS: El Tango de Roxanne
- Shuai FANG (CHN) FS: Your Song, Come What May
- Sunghoon PARK (KOR) SP: Your Song
- Tatsuya TSUBOI (JPN) SP: Your Song (Elton John version)
- Ye Eun SEO (KOR) SP: El Tango de Roxanne

Seniors - Dance
- VIRTUE / MOIR (CAN) FD: El Tango de Roxanne, Come What May
- MANTA / JOHNSON (USA) FD: Your Song, One Day I'll Fly Away

Seniors - Ladies
- Ashley WAGNER (USA) FS: Hindi Sad Diamonds, One Day I'll Fly Away, The Show Must Go On
- Karen CHEN (USA) SP: El Tango de Roxanne
- Kailani CRAINE (AUS) FS: Closing Credits: Bolero (original film version)
- Tanja ODERMATT (SUI) SP: Sparkling Diamonds
- Sandra RAMOND (FRA) FS: Ascension/Nature Boy, Hindi Sad Diamonds, One Day I'll Fly Away, The Show Must Go On
- Pernille SORENSEN (DEN) SP: Sparkling Diamonds, Rock and Roll, Part 2 (short bit of this)
- Natasha MCKAY (GBR) SP: El Tango de Roxanne
- Gyo Hee JEON (KOR) FS: Lady Marmalade, One Day I'll Fly Away, The Show Must Go On
- Aina S. MOHD AMINUDIN (MAS) FS: El Tango de Roxanne

Senior Pairs
- SCIMECA KNIERIM / KNIERIM (USA) SP: Come What May (last year's program)

Seniors - Men
- Vincent ZHOU (USA) FS: Nature Boy (David Bowie version), Come What May
- Andrew TORGASHEV* (USA) FS: El Tango de Roxanne
- Michael C. MARTINEZ (PHI) FS: El Tango de Roxanne, Tango de los Exilados
- Grant HOCHSTEIN (USA) SP: Your Song
- Tim HUBER (SUI) FS: Your Song
- ROMAIN PONSART (FRA) FS: Your Song
- ALESSANDRO FADINI (ITA) FS: Nature Boy, El Tango de Roxanne

*Also competed jr.

Overall there are: (edited to include new programs)
- 11 El Tango de Roxanne (4 with other songs)
- 8 Your Song (3 with other songs, one program using both the movie version and the Ellie Goulding version, one using the Elton John version)
- 4 One Day I'll Fly Away (3 in medleys, 1 with only one other song)
- 5 Come What May (1 instrumental, 4 with other songs)
- 3 Nature Boy (1 a short clip in medley, 1 David Bowie version)
- 3 The Show Must Go On (all in medleys)
- 3 Medleys (3+ songs from the movie)
- 2 Closing Credits: Bolero
- 2 Hindi Sad Diamonds (both in medleys)
- 2 Sparkling Diamonds (1 with another song)
- 1 Lady Marmalade (in medley)

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

I thought skylark made a good point, and it made me curious as to what Moulin Rouge songs those skaters are skating to.

Juniors
- D'ALESSANDRO / WADDELL (CAN) FD: Your Song (Elli Goulding version), Original Arrangement/A Wonderful Love by Karl Hugo, Your Song (Ewan McGregor)
- FABBRI / PIETRANTONIO (CAN) FD: El Tango de Roxanne, Come What May (instrumental)
- Caya SCHEEPENS (NED) FS: Closing Credits: Bolero (original film version)
- Guko ENDO (USA) FS: El Tango de Roxanne
- Leona ROGIC (SRB) FS: El Tango de Roxanne
- Shuai FANG (CHN) FS: Your Song, Come What May
- Sunghoon PARK (KOR) SP: Your Song

Seniors - Dance
- VIRTUE / MOIR (CAN) FD: El Tango de Roxanne, Come What May
- MANTA / JOHNSON (USA) FD: Your Song, One Day I'll Fly Away

Seniors - Ladies
- Ashley WAGNER (USA) FS: Hindi Sad Diamonds, One Day I'll Fly Away, The Show Must Go On
- Karen CHEN (USA) SP: El Tango de Roxanne
- Kailani CRAINE (AUS) FS: Closing Credits: Bolero (original film version)
- Tanja ODERMATT (SUI) SP: Sparkling Diamonds
- Sandra RAMOND (FRA) FS: Ascension/Nature Boy, Hindi Sad Diamonds, One Day I'll Fly Away, The Show Must Go On
- Pernille SORENSEN (DEN) SP: Sparkling Diamonds, Rock and Roll, Part 2 (short bit of this)
- Natasha MCKAY (GBR) SP: El Tango de Roxanne
- Gyo Hee JEON (KOR) FS: Lady Marmalade, One Day I'll Fly Away, The Show Must Go On
- Aina S. MOHD AMINUDIN (MAS) FS: El Tango de Roxanne

Seniors - Men
- Vincent ZHOU (USA) FS: Unknown
- Andrew TORGASHEV (USA) FS: El Tango de Roxanne
- Michael C. MARTINEZ (PHI) FS: El Tango de Roxanne, Tango de los Exilados
- Grant HOCHSTEIN (USA) SP: Your Song
- Tim HUBER (SUI) FS: Your Song

Overall there are:
- 9 El Tango de Roxanne (3 with other songs)
- 6 Your Song (3 with other songs, one program using both the movie version and the Ellie Goulding version)
- 4 One Day I'll Fly Away (3 in medleys, 1 with only one other song)
- 3 Come What May (1 instrumental, all with other songs)
- 3 The Show Must Go On (all in medleys)
- 3 Medleys (3+ songs from the movie)
- 2 Closing Credits: Bolero
- 2 Hindi Sad Diamonds (both in medleys)
- 2 Sparkling Diamonds (1 with another song)
- 1 Lady Marmalade (in medley)
- 1 Ascension/Nature Boy (short clip in medley)

Vincent Zhou: "Nature Boy" David Bowie version, "Come What May" (Ewan McGregor/Nicole Kidman version).

 

[el henry]

Thx for the breakdown, @SnowWhite. :hap85:

But wow, David Bowie covered "Nature Boy" for the MR movie? I only saw Vincent's program once, I had no idea that was what it was.

The one and only Nat King Cole with *the* version of Nature Boy

Why can't skaters use the original?

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

Thx for the breakdown, @SnowWhite. :hap85:

But wow, David Bowie covered "Nature Boy" for the MR movie? I only saw Vincent's program once, I had no idea that was what it was.

The one and only Nat King Cole with *the* version of Nature Boy

Why can't skaters use the original?

Because that's not the version in the movie LOL (The NKC version that is).

 

[StitchMonkey]

Good move! (Not that I heard Karaoke Adam, but I just couldn't....) I also know I'm the only person on the planet who liked his SP last year better than the Broken Bird LP, but I did, so happy on two levels.:yes:

Nope, you're not the only one! The LP was fine, but that SP has so much attitude. I'm delighted he's bringing it back, may it serve him well. :thumbsup:

Ohh i love that program! I am looking forward to seeing more of it. I re-watch it a lot actually.

 

[xeyra]

That's a very helpful chart! thanks. I've been thinking, though. There's not really any resemblance between "Roxanne" and "Your Song." So I don't really see it as a repetition in the same sense as some repetitions are. Of course, I feel the same way about, for instance, "All I Ask of You" and "Music of the Night." They're both POTO, of course, but they're not the same piece.

So when I think about the variety in Moulin Rouge music, I don't see it as being nearly as bad as it seems. YMMV. GS'ers are having the vapors over it, though, it's true.

I like the list, but I completely agree about MR music; if it weren't for figure skating, I would have no idea that Your Song and Tango de Roxanne were from the same movie, which I have never seen. And the fact that everyone uses some sad cover from MR of Your Song instead of Elton John:disapp:

I think Tango de Roxanne is probably a warhorse on its own

Would you suggest a separation between Tango de Roxanne and other themes from Moulin Rouge? The list is just a fun way of seeing how many people are using music from the same source, regardless of which song it is (though, to be fair, aside from a few, there is a lot of repetition on the music used). Same thing for POTO and Les Miserables or La La Land.

Edit: @SnowWhite:

 

[Ice Dance]

Would you suggest a separation between Tango de Roxanne and other themes from Moulin Rouge?

I think your list is accurate as it is (there's plenty of overlap and it is all from Moulin Rouge and La La Land regardless). FYI, I believe there are at least 5 Cabarets. Three senior dance teams: Kuzmichova & Sinicyn, Galyeta & Brown, Mysliveckova & Csolley. Plus at least one junior dance team using it for the Latin FD . And I believe at least one skater who is not a dance team.

Sinitsina & Katsalapov are also using Rach 2 in their FD.

 

[skylark]

I like the list, but I completely agree about MR music; if it weren't for figure skating, I would have no idea that Your Song and Tango de Roxanne were from the same movie, which I have never seen. And the fact that everyone uses some sad cover from MR of Your Song instead of Elton John:disapp:

Maybe they first became acquainted with the song by watching the movie. And ... you may not care, but here goes anyway: An intriguiing concept of the movie is that it takes place in 19th century Paris, but the characters are singing all these songs from the 20th century.

I thought skylark made a good point, and it made me curious as to what Moulin Rouge songs those skaters are skating to.

Oooh, thanks for making this list, that makes things very clear. And it confirms my instinct that there's not actually nearly as much repetition as people around here are carrying on about!

Reading your post prompted me to look up "One Day I'll Fly Away." I didn't know it was sung by Randy Crawford in 1980; I'm not sure whether that's the original version or not. Anyway, I've stayed up far too late now (not just because of that though), and I've gotta up in 4 and a half hours to watch Finlandia Pairs SP!

p.s. el henry ... Deanna/ Nate alert: 7 a.m.!

 

[skylark]

Would you suggest a separation between Tango de Roxanne and other themes from Moulin Rouge? The list is just a fun way of seeing how many people are using music from the same source, regardless of which song it is (though, to be fair, aside from a few, there is a lot of repetition on the music used). Same thing for POTO and Les Miserables or La La Land.

Not necessarily. I thought your list was great. It confirmed what I'd been thinking. I do kind of agree with el henry that Tango de Roxanne almost qualifies as a warhorse on its own.

And I can see why the skaters use the global name, i.e. Moulin Rouge, La La Land, or Les Miserables, rather than the individual song titles. For one thing, particularly if they're skating to a medley, it gives more unity to the musical selection.

 

[xeyra]

I think your list is accurate as it is (there's plenty of overlap and it is all from Moulin Rouge and La La Land regardless). FYI, I believe there are at least 5 Cabarets. Three senior dance teams: Kuzmichova & Sinicyn, Galyeta & Brown, Mysliveckova & Csolley. Plus at least one junior dance team using it for the Latin FD . And I believe at least one skater who is not a dance team.

Sinitsina & Katsalapov are also using Rach 2 in their FD.

Thank you! I shall add these up on the list.

 

[xeyra]

Not necessarily. I thought your list was great. It confirmed what I'd been thinking. I do kind of agree with el henry that Tango de Roxanne almost qualifies as a warhorse on its own.

And I can see why the skaters use the global name, i.e. Moulin Rouge, La La Land, or Les Miserables, rather than the individual song titles. For one thing, particularly if they're skating to a medley, it gives more unity to the musical selection.

In my original Bingo Card, Tango de Roxanne was a warhorse in itself, in its awesome but lonesome glory. It was when I started realizing how many people were using Moulin Rouge music, including Tango de Roxanne, that I joined the two for this list. I added a link to SnowWhite's breakdown of MR song choices to the spreadsheet, so if people come across it they can find out exactly how alike or how different the Moulin Rouge choices in these skater's programs are.

Edit: I remember skipping a junior skater recently on this list who I thought was using the Sting version of Roxanne (finally, something different!), only to find out his version was the same Roxanne as everyone else's.