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2017 CS Nebelhorn Ladies SP

dorispulaski

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Friday, 29 September 2017 at 8:15 UTC +2

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[TD]Anastasia GALUSTYAN
SP: "I Dreamed a Dream," performed by Susan Boyle (2016-17 program)
FS: Anna Karenina (soundtrack)?
(music from 2016/17 season)
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2Kailani CRAINE
SP: Dream a Little Dream of Me performed by Ella Fitzgerald, One Day (Swingrowers Remix) performed by Caro Emerald; choreo by Alex Chang (last season's program)
FS: Moulin Rouge (soundtrack); choreo by Alex Chang
AUS
3Kerstin FRANK
SP: "Swing Swing Swing" by Keely Smith, "Sing Sing Sing" by Louis Prima; choreo by Massimo Scali, Yuka Sato, Corrado Giordani
FS: The Great Gatsby (soundtrack); choreo by Massimo Scali, Yuka Sato, Corrado Giordani
AUT
4Kim CHEREMSKY
SP: Just For You by Giovanni Marrad; choreo by Nikolai Morozov
FS: Magnificent Century (soundtrack); choreo by Nikolai Morozov
AZE
5Isadora WILLIAMS
SP: "Hallelujah" performed by k.d. lang
FS: "Nyah" (from "Mission Impossible 2" soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer
BRA
6Presiyana DIMITROVA
SP: "Padam Padam" performed by Zaz; choreo by Ina Lutai
FS: "Creep" by Radiohead; choreo by Ina Lutai
BUL
7Amy LIN
SP: Snake Women (from "Iris" - Cirque du Soleil) by Danny Elfman; choreo by Tom Dickson and Marina Klimova
FS: "Juliet's Aria" ("Sono Andati" by Giacomo Puccini) from the "Heavenly Creatures" soundtrack, performed by Kate Winslet, "Musetta's Waltz" from "La Boheme" by Giacomo Puccini, "La Boheme" by Giacomo Puccini; choreo by Tom Dickson and Marina Klimova
TPE
8Elizaveta UKOLOVA
SP: Symphony No. 40 by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart; choreo by Frank Dehne, Rostislav Sinicyn
FS: "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" (from "Evita") by Andrew Llyod Webber, Tim Rice, performed by Madonna; choreo by Frank Dehne, Rostislav Sinicyn
CZE
9Pernille SORENSEN
SP: "Rock and Roll (Part 2)" by Gary Glitter, "Sparkling Diamonds" by Baz Luhmann; choreo by Kalle Strid (SP)
FS: "Life Must Have Its Mysteries" ("Inferno" soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer, "Archangel" by Two Steps from Hell; choreo by Mike Aldred (FS)
DEN
10Kristina SHKULETA-GROMOVA
SP: "Stone Cold" by Demi Lovato; choreo by Valentin Molotov
FS: "Earthguale" (soundtrack) performed by Aiko; choreo by Valentin Molotov
EST
11Viveca LINDFORS
SP: Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again by Andrew Lloyd Webber; choreo by Shanetta Folle, Sari Hakola
FS: Cinderella (soundtrack) by Patrick Doyle; choreo by Shanetta Folle, Sari Hakola
FIN
12Nathalie WEINZIERL
SP: "Caruso," performed by Lara Fabian; choreo by Edoardo de Bernadis, Francesca Cotogni
FS: "Four Seasons" by Antonio Vivaldi; choreo by Edoardo de Bernadis, Francesca Cotogni
GERD
13Natasha MCKAY
SP: "El Tango de Roxanne" (Moulin Rouge soundtrack); choreo by Andrew Smith
FS: "Rondo Capriccioso" by Camille Saint-Saens; choreo by Andrew Smith
GBR
14Dimitra KORRI
SP: "Touch" by Daft Punk feat. Paul Williams, "Lose Yourself to Dance" by Daft Punk feat. Pharrell Williams; choreo by Misha Ge, Massimo Scali, Rohene Ward
FS: "D'Artagnan" by Maxime Rodriguez; choreo by Misha Ge, Massimo Scali, Rohene Ward
GRE
15Joanna SO
SP: "All That Jazz" (from "Chicago") by John Kander, Fred Ebb; choreo by Constanze Paulinus
FS: Beauty and the Beast (soundtrack) performed by Lindsey Stirling; choreo by Constanze Paulinus
HKG
16Aimee BUCHANAN
SP: Only Hope by Mandy Moore from the 2002 movie, A Walk to Remember; choreo by Evgueni Nemirovski
FS: Romantic Rhapsody by Andre Mathieu, performed by pianist Alain Lefevre; choreo by Evgueni Nemirovski
ISR
17Romana KAISER
SP: Desert Flower (soundtrack) by Martin Todsharow; choreo by Salome Brunner
FS: Orinoco Flow (Sail Away) by Enya; choreo by Salome Brunner
LIE
18Aleksandra GOLOVKINA
SP: Frida soundtrack: Benediction and Dream; choreo by Elena Maslennikova
FS: Adagio from Concerto No. 23 in A by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Romeo and Juliet by Abel Korzeniowski (her 2016-17 program); choreo by Elena Maslennikova
LTU
19Aina Sorfina MOHD AMINUDIN
SP: "Sway," performed by The Pussycat Dolls; choreo by Kelly Johnson, Jennifer Tan
FS: "El Tango De Roxanne" from Moulin Rounge (soundtrack); choreo by Kelly Johnson, Jennifer Tan
MAS
20Sofia DEL RIO
SP: "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica; choreo by Olga Volozhinskaia
FS: "The Storm" by Havasi; choreo by Olga Volozhinskaia
MEX
21Niki WORIES
SP: "California Dreaming;" choreo by Julie Marcotte
FS: "It's A Man's World;" choreo by Julie Marcotte
NED
22Anne Line GJERSEM
SP: Angel By The Wings" by Sia; choreo by Michael Huth
FS: Experience by Ludovico Einaudi, Circles by Greta Svabo Bech; choreo by Michael Huth
NOR
23Alisson Krystle PERTICHETO
SP: "Perhaps Perhaps" by the Pussycat Dolls; choreo by Shawn Sawyer
FS: Les Parapluies de Cherbourg soundtrack by Michel Legrand; choreo by Shawn Sawyer
PHI
24Elzbieta GABRYSZAK
SP: "Big Spender," performed by Shirley Bassey; choreo by Sebastian Kolasinski
FS: "Who Wants to Live Forever" by Queen, performed by The Tenors, Lindsey Stirling; choreo by Sebastian Kolasinski
POL
25Julia SAUTER
SP: Burlesque (soundtrack): "You Haven't Seen the Last of Me" performed by Cher, "Show Me How You Burlesque" performed by Christina Aguilera; choreo by Amani Fancy
FS: "Jumping Jack," performed by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, "Circles," "Booty Swing" by Parov Stelar; choreo by Amani Fancy
ROU
26Antonina DUBININA
SP: "Tango Princess" by Julie Zenatti; choreo by M. Romanenko, E. Maslennikova, V. Bondarenko
FS: "Hijo de La Luna," rock cover version; choreo by M. Romanenko, E. Maslennikova, V. Bondarenko
SRB
27Shuran YU
SP: Selection by Jethro Tull, "Maria Maria" by Wyclef Jean; choreo by Song Gao
FS: "Young and Beautiful" (from "The Great Gatsby" soundtrack), "A Little Party Never Killed Nobody" (from "The Great Gatsby" soundtrack; choreo by Song Gao
SGP
28Dasa GRM
SP: "Blucobalto" by Negramaro, "Sax" by Fleur East
FS: "Pamit" by Tulus, "Eden Roc" by Ludovico Einaudi, "Human" by Christina Perri; choreo by Barbara Riboldi, Lorenzo Magri
SLO
29Kathryn WINSTANLEY
SP: "Too Darn Hot" by Cole Porter, performed by Ella Fitzgerald; choreo by Danielle Rose, Oula Jaaskelainen, Alexei Ishenko
FS: "La Forza del Destino" by Giuseppe Verdi; choreo by Danielle Rose, Oula Jaaskelainen, Alexei Ishenko
RSA
30Matilda ALGOTSSON
SP: "Turn to Stone," by Ingrid Michaelson; choreo by Regina Jensen
FS: "Minnie the Moocher," performed by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, "At Last," performed by Beyoncé, and "Jumpin' Jack," performed by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy; choreo by Regina Jensen
SWE
31Alexia PAGANINI
SP: Forbidden Love, from the Romeo and Juliet soundtrack ( 2013), by Abel Korzeniowski; choreo by Nikolai Morozov
FS: The Phantom of the Opera by Andrew Lloyd Webber, performed by Anthony Inglis & London Symphony Orchestra; choreo by Nikolai Morozov
SUI
32Thita LAMSAM
SP: Tale of Princess Kaguya (soundtrack) by Joe Hisaishi; choreo by Mika Sakagami
FS: Phantom of the Opera by Andrew Lloyd Webber; choreo by Mika Sakagami
THA
33Sila SAYGI
SP: Night Train by Alvino Rey; choreo by Kutay Eryoldas
FS: Frida (soundtrack) by Elliot Goldendthal; choreo by Kutay Eryoldas
TUR
34Anna KHNYCHENKOVA
SP "Sorongo," "Street Passions" by Didulia; choreo by Nadezhda Krasniak
FS: "California Dreamin' " performed by Sia; choreo by Nadezhda Krasniak
UKR
35Zahra LARI
SP: "Pierrot and the Moon" by Maxime Rodriguez; choreo by Alexandra Ievleva
FS: The Weeping Meadow (soundtrack); choreo by Alexandra Ievleva
UAE
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D - Not for OWG Qualification
 
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Alex D

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Hi Doris,

music for Alexia (Swiss girl)

SP:

Forbidden Love (Romeo and Juliet OST 2013) by Abel Korzeniowski
Found by Kerry Muzzey

FS:

The Phantom of the Opera by Andrew Lloyd Webber
(Performed by Anthony Inglis & London Symphony Orchestra)
 

CaroLiza_fan

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so out of 35 entries only ONE is NOT for qualifications

this is crazy :eeking:

It's the same in the Men (1/26). And in Dance, it is only 2/18 that are not trying to qualify.

There are more not trying to qualify in Pairs, though (5/16).

CaroLiza_fan
 

Sam-Skwantch

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It is of utmost importance that Isadora qualifies here! :eek::
 

EdgeCall

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Best of luck also to Kathryn. With a PB below 100 she will have no chance for qualification, but she and Isodora are the only representatives of their entire continents. :thumbsup:
 

Frenchie

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It is of utmost importance that Isadora qualifies here! :eek::
Hi Sam-Skwantch! You can obviously root for anyone you want to, but I hope you'll consider this:
To be fair, Isadora Williams did qualify 4 years ago, making her the 6th US lady to compete at the Olympics in the ladies event. In a field of 30, that's... a lot. She was was born in Marietta, Georgia, USA and was raised in the suburbs of Washington, DC, USA. Like Gracie Gold, Ashley Wagner, Polina Edmunds, Nicole Rajicova and Brooklee Han, she was born in the US, lived in the US her entire life, and was able to benefit from the world's best training conditions.
Unlike Gold, Edmunds and Wagner* (*well, sorry Mirai...), she didn't have to beat other ladies who had similar opportunities as her in her country. Still she only beat a no-name skater from Lithuania, born in Lithuania, living in Lithuania and training in Lithuania, by less than 2 points to get the last spot for Sochi. That skater from Lithuania (Inga Januleviciute) got to watch the Olympics on TV instead of doing what athletes describe as "their dream" when talking about hopefully qualifying for the Olympic Games: "represent your country".
So for Isadora Williams to take someone's chance at representing their country at the Olympics away for a second straight time would be something I'd find very unfair.

One of the new US Junior superstars, Alexia Paganini, was born in Greenwich, Connecticut, USA and raised in Harrison, New York, USA. She represented the US in competition her entire life. Until last year, that is. Now she switched to representing Switzerland. She will certainly qualify, and make it impossible for a Swiss skater to represent their country at the Olympics. (Very unlikely they'd have qualified, but still) Therefore, there are already going to be 4 US ladies at the Olympics in the Ladies event. Add Nicole Rajicova, that's 5.
Amy Lin, born in Fremont, California, USA and raised in Riverside, California, USA, also has a good shot at qualifying. That would make it 6 US ladies out of 30, like in 2014.
2 more US ladies will compete here to - in theory - earn a spot in the ladies event at the Olympics: Aimee Buchanan (born in Boston, Massachusetts, USA and lives in Lexington, Massachusetts, USA) for Israel and Sofia del Rio (born in Miami, Florida, USA and lives in Weston, Florida, USA) for Mexico. With Isadora, that would in theory make it 9 US ladies in a field of 30. That's one third.
Buchanan and del Rio aren't good enough to qualify. But I think that, given what a huge dream it is for any athlete to be able to represent their country at Olympic Games, I sincerely hope that none of the spots goes to the 7th US lady, Isadora Williams.
 

MalAssada

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It is of utmost importance that Isadora qualifies here! :eek::

As a Brazilian, I certainly hope she doesn't. All of my country she carries is a flag next to her name when she enters the rink. Sure, her mother is Brazilian, but I cannot consider Brazilian someone who can barely speak the language, was born, grew and trained in peak conditions, in a first world country.
 

vavavoom

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This is such an exciting competition. The ladies field is the most unpredictable one. I cannot see one lady that is a *sure thing*, unlike Pairs/Men and especially Ice Dance.

Even Anastasia Galustyan, who imvho was the closest to a slam-dunk only placed at 19th at Lombardia.

If I were to predict who are the 6 girls that are going to qualify... As of today, I would choose the ladies from Australia, Singapore, Switzerland, Armenia, Ukraine and Sweden. I think the change for Matilda Algotson was a startegic decision that will pay off!
 

Sam-Skwantch

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As a Brazilian, I certainly hope she doesn't. All of my country she carries is a flag next to her name when she enters the rink. Sure, her mother is Brazilian, but I cannot consider Brazilian someone who can barely speak the language, was born, grew and trained in peak conditions, in a first world country.

Oh I'm so bad at paying attention to that stuff but it's true she's a bit of a loophole baby. I'm a huge Nicole Rajicova fan too so maybe it's just my thing :laugh: I found myself really liking Isadora at a few different events over the last few seasons and it was her skating the drew me in but maybe I'm just being shallow and it's really just that dimple ;)
 

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I am rooting for Galustyan. The girl was amazing with her Anastasia program and was hit with all those URs some of which were quite questionable. She looked so desperate so many times after rejocing when she finished the program cleanly.

I cannot say I enjoy her current programs that much but the former "injustice" makes me sentimental about her.
 

Alex D

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I hope Nastia can do it, she is a wonderful skater!

@ US girls

I think this is a tricky thing to discuss. There are many athletes all around the world, who do not compete for their home country and not much is said about that. Look at our pair in Germany, it is totally fine isn´t it? So why would it then be not ok, if Isa or Alexia go for their "new" countries?

A lot of Russian skaters also compete for other nations these days, but it seems to be ok for people. :)

Either the rules have to change, or we have to accept that our world is a mixed bag these days. I could in theory compete for three other nations myself ^^maybe many of you, could say the same?
 

Frenchie

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@ US girls
I think this is a tricky thing to discuss. There are many athletes all around the world, who do not compete for their home country and not much is said about that. Look at our pair in Germany, it is totally fine isn´t it? So why would it then be not ok, if Isa or Alexia go for their "new" countries?
A lot of Russian skaters also compete for other nations these days, but it seems to be ok for people. :)
Either the rules have to change, or we have to accept that our world is a mixed bag these days. I could in theory compete for three other nations myself ^^maybe many of you, could say the same?

I'm with you, the rules have to change. Otherwise we might end up with Worlds and Olympics consisting of 3 countries per discipline.
I remember a while back, after Julia Vorobieva switched from representing Russia to Azerbaijan in 1993, the german Eurosport commentator (Hendrik Schamberger) introduced her pretty much every. single. time. by saying "she represents Azerbaijan, she was born in Moscow and trains in Moscow, and if you look more closely, you'll find that she never once set foot in Azerbaijan". He must have repeated that statement at least 20 times over 8 years!

But I do think it's getting out of hand. As I counted, there will be 6 or 7 US ladies out of 30.
I'm not blaming the athletes for using that loophole, but I'm just trying to imagine how an athlete must be feeling that has been working in their "world", with their "possibilities", and who "made it". And then, just before D-day, a superstar comes and "gets" your nationality. And that's it. You're out. No Olympics for you. I must admit I find the case of Alexia Paganini particularly hard to swallow: as I wrote, she competed her entire life for the US, and I don't think the other Swiss girls got the news years in advance that "they should really try and earn Switzerland 2 spots for the Olympics if they wanna go, because someone else gets the first spot". Maybe then, they would have switched countries themselves to have an opportunity to go to the Olympics? The whole thing just gets and has gotten out of hand. In the meantime, they must ask themselves if maybe they wouldn't have spent these past years working so hard. One more step in making competitive skating in Switzerland a thing of the past.
Same thing for whoever misses the Olympics by 1 spot, knowing that she'd have been "in" if someone had said "sorry Miss Paganini, but no." Maybe the Swiss federation would have, if they had any hope that Swiss figure skating has any future, and that to become better and more competitive, Swiss skaters need to compete.
Look at how hard it is for Japanese skaters: Yuko Kawaguchi had to give up her passport to represent Russia though she had been living/studying there for several years. And Mervin Tran wasn't allowed to represent Japan with Narumi Takahashi despite having won a WC medal "for Japan" 2 years before!

Never mind me, I know I'm a long time "sympathy sufferer for crushed Olympic dreams", I remember vividly feeling sick to my stomach when Ronny Winkler, who had a spot for the 94 Olympics, and finished 10th at the Euros before, got told by the german federation "no, should have been in the top 8!" and they just didn't send anyone to fill that spot. This world is just too rough for my fragile little mind! ;)
 

LKGwennire

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As a Brazilian, I certainly hope she doesn't. All of my country she carries is a flag next to her name when she enters the rink. Sure, her mother is Brazilian, but I cannot consider Brazilian someone who can barely speak the language, was born, grew and trained in peak conditions, in a first world country.
Even though she clearly isn't 100% Brazilian (being the biggest proof her Instagram post wishing a happy Brazilian Independence Day - this may be a huge thing in the US, but no one in Brazil actually cares about it, we don't celebrate it), when she went to the Olympics in 2014 she did raise the interest for the sport, which is a good thing. There will come the day when we will have a skater born in Brazil representing the country at international level, I really hope to, but as long as the best rink in the country is L shaped and way smaller than an olympic sized one, and the biggest school has a roof so low that you can't do any jumps with good height, I'm cool with these half American girls skating for us, as long as they at least try to be a bit Brazilian, like visit the country, learn the language and so on, which Isadora has done for the last five years or so at least. Also Karolina Calhoun, our only ice dancer, was born in California, but has a Brazilian passport since she was an infant, her parents travel with her frequently to her mother's hometown, speaks the language too.
ETA for clarity
 

Sam-Skwantch

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Isadora may live in America but she gets crapped on by the judges even when she performs well.

https://youtu.be/gNlYuxtXSUg

So she lives and trains here but she isn't getting the points like she's from here. SrSlY tho!! 22 PCS :angry1: She looked amazing out there and correct me if I'm wrong....didn't she get cut from skating in the free skate.

Anyone care to tell me what Tat is saying about her :popcorn:


ETA: I may be focusing on Isadora but I'll be rooting for and enjoying everyone. Looking at this line up I think I might more excited about this than any GP event. :cool:
 

twirlingblades

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As a Brazilian, I certainly hope she doesn't. All of my country she carries is a flag next to her name when she enters the rink. Sure, her mother is Brazilian, but I cannot consider Brazilian someone who can barely speak the language, was born, grew and trained in peak conditions, in a first world country.

That's a bit unfair. She's been representing Brazil since before she could do triples, and that was the goal she worked towards when she was younger. Her mother is full Brazilian and she has made a great effort to learn Portuguese.

... I also might be a bit bias since I've been skating with her my whole life though, lol. Don't mind me.
 

CaroLiza_fan

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Just want to weigh in and say that I like it when somebody born in a country which has a large pool of talent fighting for slots switches to representing a country with which they have family connections.

It may be purely tactical, but it shows that they do value their heritage. Which I like.

Of course, I do prefer if they can speak the language and all. But, if they are not speaking it day-in day-out at home, some people can find it difficult to learn additional languages.

It is athletes that take advantage of the system and switch to a country with which they have no connections that I object to.

CaroLiza_fan

P.S. I'm probably biased because I am from a small country myself, but it is nice to see smaller countries represented.
 

CaroLiza_fan

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I am rooting for Galustyan. The girl was amazing with her Anastasia program and was hit with all those URs some of which were quite questionable. She looked so desperate so many times after rejocing when she finished the program cleanly.

I cannot say I enjoy her current programs that much but the former "injustice" makes me sentimental about her.

I have been permanently rooting for Galustyan, Golovkina and Kučvaļska ever since they competed in both the EYOF and the European Championships in the same week in 2015. To compete in two competitions in two countries that are a fair distance apart; and to do the FS of the first competition on one day and then do the SP of the other competition the next day; and to actually do well in both competitions. That is an amazing achievement for anybody, never mind girls who were only 15 years old at the time.

Mind you, I will also be rooting for Yu Shuran :)cheer: Yay! Small country! :cheer: ). Apart from anything else, I am curious as to whether her costumes this season are as revealing as they were last season (for a girl so young, she was showing a serious amount of cleavage last season!)

And, of course, I will be rooting for my adoptive daughter, Anne-Line Gjersem.

CaroLiza_fan
 

CaroLiza_fan

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I must admit I find the case of Alexia Paganini particularly hard to swallow: as I wrote, she competed her entire life for the US, and I don't think the other Swiss girls got the news years in advance that "they should really try and earn Switzerland 2 spots for the Olympics if they wanna go, because someone else gets the first spot". Maybe then, they would have switched countries themselves to have an opportunity to go to the Olympics? The whole thing just gets and has gotten out of hand. In the meantime, they must ask themselves if maybe they wouldn't have spent these past years working so hard. One more step in making competitive skating in Switzerland a thing of the past.
Same thing for whoever misses the Olympics by 1 spot, knowing that she'd have been "in" if someone had said "sorry Miss Paganini, but no." Maybe the Swiss federation would have, if they had any hope that Swiss figure skating has any future, and that to become better and more competitive, Swiss skaters need to compete.

To be fair, Switzerland has for a long time seemed to prefer to take in foreign skaters. And more often than not, skaters representing Switzerland retire before they reach 20.

So, maybe the Fed just doesn't see the point in investing in their own talent.

It is this attitude that is to blame for this situation. You can't blame the skaters for taking advantage of an opportunity to further their careers.

Incidentally, does anybody know Alexia's family background? Her name is obviously Italian, but does she have connections to Switzerland? (Let's not forget that there is a large ethnic Italian population in Switzerland, and Italian is an official language alongside German, French and Romansch).

If Alexia does have connections to the country, I see no problem at all with her taking advantage of them.

Look at how hard it is for Japanese skaters: Yuko Kawaguchi had to give up her passport to represent Russia though she had been living/studying there for several years. And Mervin Tran wasn't allowed to represent Japan with Narumi Takahashi despite having won a WC medal "for Japan" 2 years before!

The situation in Japan really angers me. Especially since it has effectively destroyed the careers of the two skaters who made up one of the most promising Pairs partnerships of the previous 2 Olympic cycles (Takahashi / Tran).

What is wrong with having dual nationality?!

It's at times like these that I wish that you didn't have to "compete for" a country, and that nationality became merely a way of describing yourself.

Never mind me, I know I'm a long time "sympathy sufferer for crushed Olympic dreams", I remember vividly feeling sick to my stomach when Ronny Winkler, who had a spot for the 94 Olympics, and finished 10th at the Euros before, got told by the german federation "no, should have been in the top 8!" and they just didn't send anyone to fill that spot. This world is just too rough for my fragile little mind! ;)

So similar to what happened to Zoe Jones with the 2002 Olympics. She won British Nationals in the 2000-01 and 2001-02 seasons, but the Federation decided they would rather send nobody to the Majors in the Olympic season than send her. So, realising that she wasn't going to get anywhere under that regime, she retired, moved to Canada, and took up coaching.

Thankfully, she made her Senior comeback 14 years later at the age of 35, and at Nationals won the Free Skate and finished a very close second overall. That really showed two fingers to the previous regime!

And after making her point, she quit Singles skating, because she didn't want to get in the way of the younger skaters having their opportunity.

Zoe is competing here in Pairs with Christopher Boyadji, trying to finally achieve her Olympic dream.

:cheer: ALL THE BEST ZOE AND CHRIS!!! :cheer:

CaroLiza_fan
 
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