2017 Worlds Pairs SP

[4everchan]

And that is also a way of looking at it that I never thought of.

Yep. The people making the selections for the Olympics will look back at recent results at the Majors. And if you don't have a result, that will certainly place you at a disadvantage.

CaroLiza_fan

+ world standing points... etc...

 

[Chemistry66]

And that is also a way of looking at it that I never thought of.

Yep. The people making the selections for the Olympics will look back at recent results at the Majors. And if you don't have a result, that will certainly place you at a disadvantage.

CaroLiza_fan

But it's also a case of "I know I'm needed to qualify Olympic spots, but I could very well injure myself badly enough where I'm not in contention for those spots we DO get" to consider.

 

[icybear]

i hope S/H don't lose the gold because of the judges stupid scoring. They deserve gold.

 

[sowcow]

Canada is right on the bubble for three spots which is NOT something I'm happy to see...

Kirsten Moore-Towers is probably at home in Canada screaming the same thing at her TV.

Well, I'm sure Julianne and Charlie are worried too!

Hopefully D/R and I/M have a strong FS... they can definitely beat Z/E, and pull a 4CC and beat Y/Z, which would give them some wiggle room on the 3 spots.

With only 5.15 points separating 4th from 11th spot, it'll be a nail-biter FS for sure!!


4[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 75.23 ︱ Xiaoyu YU / Hao ZHANG — CHN
5[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 74.26 ︱ Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT — RUS
6[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 73.14 ︱ Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH — CAN
7[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 72.67 ︱ Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD — CAN
8[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 72.17 ︱ Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM — USA
9[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 71.04 ︱ Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK — ITA
10[SUP]th[/SUP]︱ 70.10 ︱ Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES — FRA
11[SUP]th[/SUP]︱ 70.08 ︱ Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE — ITA


Am I correct that for CAN to qualify 3 teams for the Olympics, their top-2 teams need to have a combined placement of ≤ 13[SUP]th[/SUP]? So...

• 4[SUP]th[/SUP] + 9[SUP]th[/SUP] (or better)
• 5[SUP]th[/SUP] + 8[SUP]th[/SUP] (or better)
• 6[SUP]th [/SUP]+ 7[SUP]th[/SUP]

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[cheerknithanson]

I kept looking at forums when I could. Dang. This is going to be CLOSE

 

[atsumiri]

Judge No.5 Ms. Beatrice PFISTER SUI.GIF Switzerland
Give 76.40 to Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN and put them on 6th place.
GoE: 7.40
PCS: 35.20

same judge give Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT 79.70 and put them on 1st place
GoE: 6.00
PCS: 36.60

 

[Pippuripihvi]

Alona's face when asked about a fall on 3A throw - priceless! Bruno's answer - even more priceless :agree:

 

[Chemistry66]

Am I correct that for CAN to qualify 3 teams for the Olympics, their top-2 teams need to have a combined placement of ≤ 13[SUP]th[/SUP]?

Yup. This is correct. Right now they're on the precipice.

 

[UnChosen]

S/M and T/M are both way too close to S/H for what they did...if they were both totally clean I could understand but they were not.

This better not come back to haunt S/H in the free with a repeat of a Boyang/Patrick scenario. I can already see S/M landing a somewhat clean 3ATh in the free and beat S/H just like that.

 

[labgoat]

Goddammit skycam! I wanted to see that step sequence up close.

I hate that view, it makes me dizzy and the skaters like spiders or ants!

 

[Mathman]

With only...

Did you make your avatar? :agree:

 

[cathlen]

I'm still in shock, don't know what to say about Ksenia & Fedor. :sad4:, but I thought their display of unity in the k&c was nice. Hope they're not losing their nerve prior to LP.

Now they have nothing to lose. The responsibility to keep spots lay on T/M and Z/E shoulders. They can only go higher in ranking, as I doubt their FP could be worse disaster than this SP. The tension should be long gone, since they now have almost zero chances to even be close to podium.

PS After Wordls, I'm making avatar out of their K&C. They were so sweet

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

i hope S/H don't lose the gold because of the judges stupid scoring. They deserve gold.

Well, they won't lose because of the judges' scoring. They could lose if they make errors like the SBS 3S which has been an issue. I think they will hold off for the win, but I would be happy with S/M winning too. I can't stand the cheesefest that is T/M's freeskate, but they also skate very clean, neat elements even though I don't find them particularly World Champ worthy, so Narumi Takahashi/Mervin Tran-type bronze would be well-deserved.

Although secretly, I want James/Cipres to pull off a FS like they did at Euros and snatch bronze.

 

[Kutien]

				SP
1	Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN	CHN	81.23	1	video
2	Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT	GER	79.84	2	video
3	Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV	RUS	79.37	3	video
4	Xiaoyu YU / Hao ZHANG	CHN	75.23	4	video
5	Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT	RUS	74.26	5	video
6	Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH	CAN	73.14	6	video
7	Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD	CAN	72.67	7	video
8	Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM	USA	72.17	8	video
9	Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK	ITA	71.04	9	video
10	Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES	FRA	70.10	10	video
11	Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE	ITA	70.08	11	video
12	Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU	CAN	66.31	12	video
13	Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV	RUS	65.69	13	video
14	Tae Ok RYOM / Ju Sik KIM	PRK	64.52	14	video
15	Anna DUSKOVA / Martin BIDAR	CZE	63.36	15	video
16	Ekaterina ALEXANDROVSKAYA / Harley WINDSOR	AUS	62.03	16	video
	Sumire SUTO / Francis BOUDREAU-AUDET	JPN	video	17
	Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER	AUT	video	18
	Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT	GER	video	19
	Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER	USA	video	20
	Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU	CRO	video	21
	Goda BUTKUTE / Nikita ERMOLAEV	LTU	video	22
	Tatiana DANILOVA / Mikalai KAMIANCHUK	BLR	video	23
	Daria BEKLEMISHEVA / Mark MAGYAR	HUN	video	24
	Emilia SIMONEN / Matthew PENASSE	FIN	video	25
	Zoe JONES / Christopher BOYADJI	GBR	video	26
	Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV	FRA	video	27
	Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Noah SCHERER	SUI	video	28

 

[moriel]

And that is also a way of looking at it that I never thought of.

Yep. The people making the selections for the Olympics will look back at recent results at the Majors. And if you don't have a result, that will certainly place you at a disadvantage.

CaroLiza_fan

Or even if they dont look like this, lets say T/M. Suppose they WD here and Russia ends up with 2 spots only.
Then, next year V/T return Alyona style and S/K are in top form. Or Z/E improve a lot and T/M underperform at nationals. And there is no Olympic spot for T/M then. It is a higher risk.

 

[luckyguy]

Right enough. Hadn't thought of it like that.

Yeah, practice is far too late to call up a replacement.

Natalia and Sasha did very well. But, it would have been too much pressure on them in the FS if they alone were the ones that the Fed were relying on to earn the slots.

CaroLiza_fan

I always thought Katarina Gerboldt was his ideal partner, but Natalia is even better.

 

[matmuh]

conference after SP just ended and Cong managed to make me cry :sad21: he is THE BEST! and Sui teasing him never gets old

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Now they have nothing to lose. The responsibility to keep spots lay on T/M and Z/E shoulders. They can only go higher in ranking, as I doubt their FP could be worse disaster than this SP. The tension should be long gone, since they now have almost zero chances to even be close to podium.

After Worls, I'm makin avatar out of their K&C

Yeah, it was nice to see them chipper given the absolute disaster of their SP. They are also fortunate the judges gave them 34 PCS in spite of THREE errors, including two falls - they should be behind the North Koreans, and arguably the Czech team too. Hopefully they can move up in the FS, and Russia should thank their lucky stars that Z/E are in position to maintain 3 spots.

 

[4everchan]

S/M and T/M are both way too close to S/H for what they did...if they were both totally clean I could understand but they were not.

This better not come back to haunt S/H in the free with a repeat of a Boyang/Patrick scenario. I can already see S/M landing a somewhat clean 3ATh in the free and beat S/H just like that.

I agree with your first line but
please leave Patrick out of that... Thank you.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

With only 5.15 points separating 4th from 11th spot, it'll be a nail-biter FS for sure!!


4[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 75.23 ︱ Xiaoyu YU / Hao ZHANG — CHN
5[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 74.26 ︱ Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT — RUS
6[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 73.14 ︱ Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH — CAN
7[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 72.67 ︱ Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD — CAN
8[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 72.17 ︱ Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM — USA
9[SUP]th[/SUP] ︱ 71.04 ︱ Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK — ITA
10[SUP]th[/SUP]︱ 70.10 ︱ Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES — FRA
11[SUP]th[/SUP]︱ 70.08 ︱ Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE — ITA


Am I correct that for CAN to qualify 3 teams for the Olympics, their top-2 teams need to have a combined placement of ≤ 13[SUP]th[/SUP]? So...

• 4[SUP]th[/SUP] + 9[SUP]th[/SUP] (or better)
• 5[SUP]th[/SUP] + 8[SUP]th[/SUP] (or better)
• 6[SUP]th [/SUP]+ 7[SUP]th[/SUP]

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Yup! As long as it's a combo that adds up to 13 or less! Yes, the FS will be a nail biter indeed.