2018 Olympic Figure Skating Ladies FS

[Tavi...]

Medvedeva has been overscored for years and now she's got a taste of her own medicine. She still got Silver over ladies who were more deserving of PCs and who also executed jumps better, so I don't really feel sorry for her. The judging is not her fault but well, it's unfair and insulting to her to say she deserved Gold just out of pity. Her repetitive miming and flutzes shouldn't win OGM against Alina's clear technical superiority- (though I still believe the latter was also overscored in PCs).

She “got a taste of her own medicine”? Like she was some mean girl beating up on everyone else and now they’ve beaten up on her? Seriously?

And I think you missed the point. People aren’t say she deserved gold tonight out of pity, but because she gave a beautiful, heartfelt, performance that you obviously couldn’t appreciate because you were fixated on her “flutz.”

If you’re happy with the results, congratulations, but your vitriol is a bit much.

 

[rain]

A couple of thoughts about non-medalists:

Sotskova looked beautiful again, she is on point with the costumes, and it was nice to see her with a redemption skate. She needs to change up her programs to get noticed. She needs to pull out her inner diva and do something fierce. Right now it's all just pleasant.

Dabin Choi was really lovely. So nice to have a great skate at home.

Karen Chen has a beautiful layback spin.

Nice to see Bradie Tennell also turn in a great redemption skate.

Satoko is one of the most dependable skaters. Due to the size of her jumps she needs others to make mistakes. But she is often undervalued in PCS.

 

[Smith16]

Does anyone have a video of the podium ceremony?

 

[skatefan17]

Jeez, you can feel the hate emanating from Eteri.

Her attitude is gross. I don't care if it's a cultural difference, she looks like a bully and I doubt she considers the social-emotional needs of her students well.

 

[shan22044]

She's shady on twitter too, because she can be. Love it.

Like she'd have done any better. What's the difference between 9th and 5th at the Olympics? You're still not a contender.
Ashley wouldn't have made a lick of difference. And she's no Adam Rippon, she's already had her chance and started a meme with her scowl of entitlement. LOL!

 

[ChiquitaBanana]

Osmond’s lutz... I have just rewatched her long program and it was maybe on a better putside edge than ever and I think that’s why she had a step out. I wouldn’t have called it. Go rewatch it slo-mo.

 

[Blondie12]

EM is one tough girl mentally. I hope she continues. Many of the greats in ladies - Michelle, Mao, Yuna (though she also got gold - got the silver. It was surely a great competition.

US really needs a reboot. All the ladies fell in both short and long I think. Japanese ladies and KO were magnificent. I was disappointed in CK as I thought she would have a more emotional farewell skate. Maybe it's not farewell.

 

[nickp91]

Kaetlyn Osmond is 22 and she has a gold, silver and a bronze over two Olympics

 

[jccool5000]

Results if judging were accurate

1. Evgenia
2. Kaetlyn
3. Satoko
4. Alina
5. Kostner or Kaori with the former having the edge on PCS and the latter TES.

I would actually put Kaetlyn first if we still had the 6.0 system I just prefer her big takeoff and landings over the russian skater's jumps.

Freeskate, Technical, Artistic
Kaetlyn 5.8 (messed up lutz), 5.9 (awesome performance)
Evgenia 5.6 (wrong edges, slow speed), 5.6
Alina 5.7 (managed to land everything but not effortless), 5.2

 

[Ophelia]

Alina's PCS is the most egregious part about this whole thing. Tonight, and throughout the season.

I find it extremely rich that we have people here complaining about Alina's PCS being "egregious" when this has been the exact same story for Med for the LAST 3 YEARS.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[Shayuki]

I see they actually called Kaori Sakamoto's flutz an e and not a !. But they didn't call Medvedeva's flutz at all and instead gave it +2 +3 GOE. I thought that they marked it for ! with about 0 GOE live but apparently they removed it during review(even though it was an obvious e with clear inside edge pretty early on, they showed it on slow-mo).

Well yeah, considering... It's pretty easy to justify Zagitova deserving the victory.

 

[EyesOfLove]

Prodigal of gifts as the judges were towards Medvedeva, they couldn't make her eclipse Zagitova, who turned to account, with flying colors, practically everything to help glean points under the system.
And frankly, I always could not see the illusory artistic edge of the former alleged by some people. The better technician triumphed, I reckon. Still, it was a dazzlingly close match between two phenoms who both delivered under the pressure, and words cannot sufficiently describe the awe in which I stand of them.

Congratulations to the medalists+Satoko, who has left the performances of her life when it most counted; her LP, despite the short end of the stick she received in PCS, I dare say was the most artistic Olympic skate I have seen since Torino, with Yuna's Sochi LP being a close second.

 

[chairmanmao]

Figure skating died since 2014 Olympics. Don’t think PCS farce just begun

A certain fanbase were adamant their fave was the rightful champion that until now they keep on reminding us of that tragic result.

 

[Lamente Ariane]

Honestly, this event was mostly what I expected, so I'm gonna take the good, throw out the bad and shrug at the rest.

Highlights- Kaetlyn and Satoko's everything, Kaori and Dabin's shining moments, Maria's comeback, Hanul's best ever, Loena's comeback, Mirai's smile.

As for our top two, after Europeans a sort of peace descended over me. At first I thought it was just apathy, but I found myself able to really enjoy Alina's skating for the first time at the Olympics, and although she didn't give my personal favorite performance in either program, I'm truly happy for her and hope she continues in the sport because I'm really interested to see what she'll do next. I'm also interested to see how Evgenia moves on from this experience, whether she tries out different program styles/technical layouts or if one of them will change coaches or what. Naturally, there's a small army of Eteri girls waiting in the wings to compete against them so I'm certainly not going to try to predict 2022 but I think we're in for an interesting 2018-2019 season regardless of how the rules may change in the future.

 

[twirlingblades]

Like she'd have done any better. What's the difference between 9th and 5th at the Olympics? You're still not a contender.
Ashley wouldn't have made a lick of difference. And she's no Adam Rippon, she's already had her chance and started a meme with her scowl of entitlement. LOL!

She... is kinda Adam Rippon though? They are best friends? Could you imagine them at the Olympics together? No, there isn't really any true difference between 5th and 9th, but they could've ran with Ash and Adam easily.

 

[Miss Ice]

I see they actually called Kaori Sakamoto's flutz an e and not a !. But they didn't call Medvedeva's flutz at all and instead gave it +2 +3 GOE. I thought that they marked it for ! with about 0 GOE live but apparently they removed it during review(even though it was an obvious e with clear inside edge pretty early on, they showed it on slow-mo).

Well yeah, considering... It's pretty easy to justify Zagitova deserving the victory.

Yeah, that was pretty infuriating. Kaori should have been 5th above Kostner.

 

[rain]

The next quad could launch ladies’ skating into the era of the 3A (Rika Kihira, Mirai Nagasu, Wakaba Higuchi(?) and more skaters from Japan). Alina’s technical advantage won’t seem as impressive then and her PCS won’t be that high anymore if the tech doesn’t stand out imo.

I really hope not. There's a good reason that the men's is my least favourite discipline now. While it's cool to see Mirai try the triple axel, look what it does to her program. There is nothing going on while she sets up for it.

In the off season on the boards I think I might post a thread seeing how people feel about splitting off a jumping competition for those who like that sort of thing from a comp for men focusing on the other aspects of great skating, which would limit the number of jumps and their type.

 

[Shayuki]

Osmond’s lutz... I have just rewatched her long program and it was maybe on a better putside edge than ever and I think that’s why she had a step out. I wouldn’t have called it. Go rewatch it slo-mo.

I saw that in real time, that it looked like a better edge than usual. But they had a slow-mo with an overhead view that showed that it still probably was a !.

Still, much better than Medvedeva's and Sakamoto's clear e flutz. And that Kaori's and Osmond's were penalized correctly and Medvedeva's given +2 and +3 GOE... makes me feel much better about Zagitova winning.

 

[Lota]

The podium place getters in 2006 were all in their 20s

I know, but the other closest winner in her 20s was Yamaguchi in 1992. 1994, 1998, 2002, 2010, 2014, 2018 were all won by teens. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, just that jumping does seem to come easier to them because of their youth and agility, especially to the fresh-out-of-juniors 15 and 16 year-olds. So I wonder when the next older winner will be, or if the youths are gonna continue their streak.

 

[guanchi]

where are you sky-fly? Is Med now washed up and worn out?