2018 Olympic Figure Skating Ladies FS

[Mista Ekko]

Forget four years, just 2 years in the FS world is an eternity. Blink and white becomes black, up is now down....I can't see any of these girls on the podium again in 2022.

The way ladies skating at Olympics tends to go,

We'll only know who might podium in the summer right before

 

[Seruleane]

"I did absolutely everything I could."
-Zhenya to Eteri


I'm just. I'm just so mad. I'm so mad because you're world champion for two years and you miss one competition, and you're finished. You work on artistry, and they hand the same PCS to someone fresh out of juniors. It's infuriating. It's painful. It's sad.

IJS might have helped push the tech, but it's also stifled art.
I'm heartbroken. But I'm also furious.

It's interesting that some people think missing the GPF was Evgenia's death knell. I am not convinced Evgenia would have beaten Alina at GPF. The judges have been increasing Alina's PCS the whole season. They seemed ready to crown a new queen. Not saying it was right or wrong, just that I don't agree with the folks who seem to think Evgenia's injury and missing GPF are to blame for Alina overtaking her.

 

[Shayuki]

Yes, but it's also a lot easier to jump triple axels and quads (not that it's easy but easier) when you're younger. So who knows if Rika at age 19 in 2022 can still do those triple axels or if she'll lose them. I imagine if there's a young one with crazy techs it'll be like a Zagitova that comes up out of no where at like 14 on the junior circuit in 2021 and turns 15 just in time for the games.

But Zagitova doesn't really have "crazy techs", she just has consistent triples.

You don't just learn quads and 3As out of nowhere.

Speaking of junior circuit in 2021, Akatieva's the name to keep in mind.

 

[Ophelia]

Zhenya has benefited immensely over the last quad from overly generous PCS marks, so I find it ironic that many of you are now throwing a tantrum about PCS being unfair. Those overly generous PCS marks applied to another skater are the same thing that denied Med the OGM.

 

[Anni234]

Can someone who watched Russian feed confirm that, but apparently TAT started crying during Medvedeva's performance and said she wanted Med to win and then apologised to Alina? Damn.

 

[MiRé]

Zhenya has benefited immensely over the last quad from overly generous PCS marks. Those overly generous PCS marks applied to another skater are the same thing that denied her the OGM.

Funny how I remember similar thing happening...in the last olympics

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

I am going to go there and mention she-who-must-not-be-named ... Evgenia will be considered a greater skater and legend than Adelina Sotnikova. Even with her silver Olympic medal.

I said what I said.

I wish that Evgenia could have been just a year older and won last time if they weren't going to give it to Yuna.

 

[PyeongChang2018]

Can someone who watched Russian feed confirm that, but apparently TAT started crying during Medvedeva's performance and said she wanted Med to win and then apologised to Alina? Damn.

Who is TAT? Sorry, I'm a novice.

 

[Krislite]

Interestingly, if Evgenia put the 3F+3T and the 3Lz in the second half, that would have given her about 1.5 points extra in technical, enough to have won the gold medal.

So we have this IJS second-half bonus rule to thank for Zagitova's OGM? LOL.

Actually, it was the crazy PCS scoring that did it, just like in Sochi. :noshake:

 

[shiroKJ]

I am going to go there and mention she-who-must-not-be-named ... Evgenia will be considered a greater skater and legend than Adelina Sotnikova. Even with her silver Olympic medal.

I said what I said.

Well some skaters just contribute more to the sport than others. E.g Michelle Kwan, Mao Asada, and now Evgenia. There's no shame in a OSM because they'll still reside in people's hearts for years to come Just as there's no shame in winning a OGM based on a once in a lifetime skate.

 

[Metis]

I think only Yuna has impressed me with her mental strength as much as Alina has at that age.

Yeah, while I’ll defend Medvedeva’s program to the death (I wrote more papers on Anna Karenina than any sane person needs to), let’s not act like Zagitova doesn’t have more poise and composure than just about anyone else around. Seriously, she needs to give Nathan Chen a lesson on remaining composed when things don’t proceed as planned and remaining in control of the program. It wasn’t her best performance of it, and it isn’t my favorite program, but the mental fortitude ... godDAMN.

She isn’t wholly lacking in artistry, and the program has a certain charm, but it just didn’t reach me as much as Medvedeva’s. That being said, I have a hard time saying Zagitova wasn’t the better skater tonight. It was very close, but Zagitova also had a better short program. As much as I wanted Medvedeva to win the gold, I can’t say Zagitova didn’t deserve it. This is nowhere near Nagano levels of crisis.

 

[Anni234]

Who is TAT? Sorry, I'm a novice.

Tatjana Tarasova, russian commentator and former coach

 

[anonymoose_au]

Postives... Zigitova's Leopard Voodoo Candle Gala will be the best thing since the last Yellow Moth!!

Oh dear, I forgot about that Ex..it's just...it's so weird! With the music and the candles and the tigerstriped body suit with the gyrating on the ice. I can't get behind it and I say that as a person who loves Plushy's Sex Bomb

 

[Sabrina]

Now I want to congratulate Jeff Buttle and Kaetlyn, as they finally did a wonderful black swan program. I was quite critical in the beginning, but they changed it enough, and now it really looks like Swan Lake. Without that mistake on Lz, Kaetlyn could have won, maybe. Neither Evgenia nor Alina were as good as usual.

 

[alpaca]

Alina is just so chill about everything lol

 

[twirlingblades]

I didn't think I'd be so depressed over Med losing but here we are. At least I have Savchenko/Massot, Virtue/Moir, and Yuzuru.... But yeah. What a depressing ending.

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

Zhenya has benefited immensely over the last quad from overly generous PCS marks. Those overly generous PCS marks applied to another skater are the same thing that denied her the OGM.

Not really the point because she still deserves higher PCS than Alina. No one said that they need to be inflated. Just significantly higher. Everyone should get what they deserve.

 

[smythe]

But Zagitova doesn't really have "crazy techs", she just has consistent triples.

You don't just learn quads and 3As out of nowhere.

She does do the hardest triple-triple combination though.

And you don't learn them out of nowhere, I don't disagree with that. They're still hard, but my point is that they're considerably easier to do when you're younger and as your body changes as you get older you have to relearn your balance and etc and perhaps the jumps disappear.

What I was trying to say that we probably have zero clue who the next podium winners are. It'll likely be some 15 year old that comes out of nowhere like 1 season before 2022.

 

[skate29]

Okay, I get that Alina is just using the system to her advantage and there's nothing inherently immoral about that. Congratulations on her win.
But I don't know how you could look at this event and not see what a sad twist ladies' figure skating has taken. Both Alina and Evgenia have cluttered programs and less than perfect artistry, but Evgenia is clearly the more musical skater and she lost to Alina's program which honestly, is void of any artistic integrity.
Also, let's talk about how this isn't happening to the same absurdity in the other events. The podiums for the men, pairs, and ice dance were so well balanced: artistic and so exciting technically.

 

[MIM]

It was sad to see Alina in the green room no one her side to hug and congratulate her as soon as she knew she won gold!
It was Satoko and Then Kaetlyn who gave her hugs before leaving the room. She was holding back joy and tears. Very reserved gold medalist... I wanted to hug her!!