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What? that's one week away why aren't they in Bejjing already?
My guess - once they are in Beijing they are subject to set practice times whereas Krasnoyarsk they probably have free reign of practice time.
It’s funny. I don’t think she will get better with time. If Eteri students have taught us anything it’s that they regress after the age of 15/16.
Technical skills yes i agree Eteri's students struggle with their consistency once they hit 17, but the post you quoted mentioned she wasn't expressive right now but that might improve with time
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That probably explains why Anna reached her free skate personal best at the age of nearly 18
That probably explains why Anna reached her free skate personal best at the age of nearly 18
Reputation points are a thing and Shcherbakova had to earn hers with the WC win, but technically speaking I don't think Shcherbakova at 17 (she turns 18 in March) is better than she was 15/16 nor is she the consistent competitor that she was the 2 prior seasons. << and I say that as a Shcherbakova fan who would love to see her pull off an upset gold medal in 2 weeks
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Maybe you can enlighten me by telling me about more consistent skater with similar tech content at the age of 17/18 (or higher).
Nah, that’s just reputation judging leading up to the Olympics!That probably explains why Anna reached her free skate personal best at the age of nearly 18
There isn't a more consistent skater than her doing similar content that is of the same age or older, but my post was comparing 17 year old Shcherbakova to 15/16 year old Shcherbakova. If she was doing easier content she would likely be rock-solid consistent, she also wouldn't be going to the Olympics for Russia.
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Your perpetual bias that I do not share.
It’s true. I do not care for Anna, with that being said there is absolutely no way to justify her short program scores this season where she has made mistakes, that can be concluded as anything other than benefit of the doubt scores.
Skaters from other federations or even Trusova at worlds with similar mistakes have received much harsher penalties for their mistakes.
While I can agree that Anna is talented, she’s not my cup of tea. That however; doesn’t negate the obvious candies she’s provided from the judges.
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Comparing Anna's results, not just numbers but the actual skating says her skating isn't much different from previous seasons. E.g. during her debut senior season she had problems with her short program several times. Previous season can't be fully compared as there were more domestic competitions but Anna's skates at the cup stages was similar to her skates at the GP stages this season. She currently doesn't do 4Lz, but she didn't do it at the cup stages previous season as well. I would really like to see a skater as consistent as Anna through three consecutive seasons at this age.
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You obviously do care about Anna, just exclusively from a negative perspective, which is the contrary to "don't care".
But I said: "free skate personal best". So complaints about the SP are completely useless here.
Perhaps English isn’t your first language, in the context of my post “I don’t care for” means I do not enjoyYou obviously do care about Anna, just exclusively from a negative perspective, which is the contrary to "don't care".
But I said: "free skate personal best". So complaints about the SP are completely useless here.
. Not the way you have interpreted it, as me stating I’m indifferent.In fact; I’m not indifferent, her consistent over scoring (along with select other) is something that has diminished my enjoyment of the sport over the past 4-5 years.
While talented, Anna has areas of improvement; pointing her toes, not doing mule kicks on toe jumps, occasional edge issues and her spins have regressed. Unfortunately none of these deficiencies are addressed in her scores.
She has certainly not improved since her first senior season and is in fact regressing regardless of the score tally. She is clearly hanging on by a thread and likely nursing and injury.
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I became interested in what the forum participants said in 2016, when there were no quadruple jumps yet. What then did people think about the debut of Evgenia Medvedeva at the World Championships?You obviously do care about Anna, just exclusively from a negative perspective, which is the contrary to "don't care".
But I said: "free skate personal best". So complaints about the SP are completely useless here.
And here are some posts from the past (it makes no sense to indicate the authors, I think):
I'm going to say it: I want to see a major upset. I hope Evgenia doesn't win.
I hope a real grown woman wins this. I am so over these teenage flavor of the season.
I have tried to get into her choreography in the beginning of the program, and I just don't like it. I find her "emotion" to be very put on.
It will be 150+?!?!:sad21:
Tbh Marin Honda jumps better than Evgenia
Question to ask, every year: will the technique survive?
The arm above her head looks absolutely terrible. I give her so much respect for doing them but the ugly position takes away from it and the +GOE shouldn't be so high on them because of it.
I AM DONE. THIS DIDN'T DESERVE TO BREAK TBE WORLD RECORD.
ISU just lost all credibility
Insane. Wrong. Tiny jumps with hands over the head don't deserve huge GOE. Not a real lutz. Not that great of spins or skating skills. So dumb this score.
Now "degraded" Anna received 168.37 at the European Championships. That is, 18 points more than Medvedeva's world record in 2016. But the claims are the same, although they are written by other people. Wrong jumps, overestimated results, bad emotions, inexpressive skating - etc.
Now that's a new one.
Under what sky, in which universe and space-time Anna Shcherbakova does mule kick?
Shake my world with a single proof of this jaw-dropping fantasy of yours.
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Perhaps English isn’t your first language, in the context of my post “I don’t care for” means I do not enjoy
In fact; I’m not indifferent, her consistent over scoring (along with select other) is something that has diminished my enjoyment of the sport over the past 4-5 years.
While talented, Anna has areas of improvement; pointing her toes, not doing mule kicks on toe jumps, occasional edge issues and her spins have regressed. Unfortunately none of these deficiencies are addressed in her scores.
She has certainly not improved since her first senior season and is in fact regressing regardless of the score tally. She is clearly hanging on by a thread and likely nursing and injury.
Well english is surely not the native language in my country that you can recognize from the flag under my avatar (we the people of the slavic countries do not speak english just with weird accents like in hollywood movies after all
). My english certainly has flaws and I am the first one who is willing to admit that, so if you have problems with it we can switch to my native, I'm sure our mutual understanding will reach much higher level 
You certainly are not indifferent, but I really do not think it has anything to do with actual overscoring, but rather with your actual feelings (feelings of superiority and "moral high ground") about the particular parts of the world (the talks about true skating, right choreos, best coaches etc. are much more about this superiority complex than actual qualities). Anna has the bad luck of being currenly the one who is the embodiment of the frustration of particular people (you included) from the current development of the sport, definitely in the ladies category. She prolongs this line started with Evgenia (or maybe Adelina), continued with Alina, now it is her when it comes to this kind of criticism that doesn't come from the real evaluating of the skaters qualities but much more from personal feelings about other things.
But let's return to the modest beginnings. The original statement talked about regress at the certain age, when an example showing the difference was given, the topic was changed. So, let me claim that Anna is the example of a consistent skater at higher age than the original "thesis" introduced. And I certainly do not see skaters from elsewhere who could be offered as an example of the obvious belief "we do it better".
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Zhenya and Anna? Alina won everything when she was 16 but if she wanted to continue A couple more years at a high level she could have even without an ultra jump.
Anna is having some struggles but putting up some good numbers still. I would not be surprised if she made the podium at the Olympics and she's almost 18 I also expect sasha to stay competitive for a couple more years.
Even if there is some regression in there for these skaters they're still really good.
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You nailed it. That is the long-term narrative. I actually see my mind was going the similar way in this discussion when I talked about the "line started with Evgenia (or maybe Adelina), continued with Alina..." Evgenia was forgiven when she chose Orser and many of her previous haters turned their allegiance instantly. To some level I would like to see another case like that, because I'm sure if let's say Anna would suddely decide to cooperate with let's say Shae-Lynn Bourne, her "karma" would increase instantlyI became interested in what the forum participants said in 2016, when there were no quadruple jumps yet. What then did people think about the debut of Evgenia Medvedeva at the World Championships?
And here are some posts from the past (it makes no sense to indicate the authors, I think):
I'm going to say it: I want to see a major upset. I hope Evgenia doesn't win.
I hope a real grown woman wins this. I am so over these teenage flavor of the season.
I have tried to get into her choreography in the beginning of the program, and I just don't like it. I find her "emotion" to be very put on.
It will be 150+?!?!:sad21:
Tbh Marin Honda jumps better than Evgenia
Question to ask, every year: will the technique survive?
The arm above her head looks absolutely terrible. I give her so much respect for doing them but the ugly position takes away from it and the +GOE shouldn't be so high on them because of it.
I AM DONE. THIS DIDN'T DESERVE TO BREAK TBE WORLD RECORD.
ISU just lost all credibility
Insane. Wrong. Tiny jumps with hands over the head don't deserve huge GOE. Not a real lutz. Not that great of spins or skating skills. So dumb this score.
Now "degraded" Anna received 168.37 at the European Championships. That is, 18 points more than Medvedeva's world record in 2016. But the claims are the same, although they are written by other people. Wrong jumps, overestimated results, bad emotions, inexpressive skating - etc.
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