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2022 Olympics: Women's Free Skate
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Sasha should get criticized now, this is the time to do it. Otherwise she will never learn from her mistake.
If someone try to show her the video years from now when she's much older, if she grow up, then I will defend her then.
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I lived through the ‘88 Olympic Battles, the ‘94 Nancy-Tonya calamity, the ‘02 judging scandal, but holy cow, this takes the cake for emotional upheaval!
My heart breaks for precious Kamila, with the weight of the world on her tiny shoulders and the baying mob screaming at her, delighting in her downfall.
I give Alexandra a huge pass for her tears. So she had an emotional breakdown, it happens. It’s the biggest sports stage in the world and she gave it her all, but it just fell thisshort. Of course she’s bitterly disappointed. And again, you have a mob in the form of cameramen in her face at her lowest moment. It’s abhorrent how people’s low moments are a form of entertainment to be broadcast across the globe.
Anna and Kaori were the pictures of grace, beauty and strength. Their performances and composure speak for themselves. Marvelously done and thank you for providing hope to us fans in a wretched situation.
My heart breaks for precious Kamila, with the weight of the world on her tiny shoulders and the baying mob screaming at her, delighting in her downfall.
I give Alexandra a huge pass for her tears. So she had an emotional breakdown, it happens. It’s the biggest sports stage in the world and she gave it her all, but it just fell thisshort. Of course she’s bitterly disappointed. And again, you have a mob in the form of cameramen in her face at her lowest moment. It’s abhorrent how people’s low moments are a form of entertainment to be broadcast across the globe.
Anna and Kaori were the pictures of grace, beauty and strength. Their performances and composure speak for themselves. Marvelously done and thank you for providing hope to us fans in a wretched situation.
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Eteri isn’t blamed Kamila, she asked her -
Why did you stop competing? Why did you add something?
standard coach questions
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No. Men never get criticized for these kinds of outbursts. Any 17 year old who has worked over a decade towards a singular goal and doesn't achieve it gets a pass.
Those questions are blaming and downright evil things to say in moment like that
This wasn’t even remotely a standard situation. Sounds like a horrible thing to say to someone who is already obviously emotionally devastated. How is that helpful? Saying nothing would have been better than that imo.
Like she doesn't know the answer to her questions? The whole world knows. She just needed a good hug.
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I think Alina should grab Kamila for an inspirational talk, Alina had the same kind of nightmarish FS
at post Olympic Worlds when everyone thought she couldn't be beaten, and she kept going through
a less than great following season and ended up coming back to win the World title.
at post Olympic Worlds when everyone thought she couldn't be beaten, and she kept going through
a less than great following season and ended up coming back to win the World title.
It's not surprising that the "We are Team T."-vibe evaporated (it seems to be fragile as one could see f.e. at RUSnats December 2019), when it came to the main prize. It happened in 2018 with less pressure and 2 skaters involved, it happened now. It would have been easier with 2 TT skaters and a shared TE gold for both of them. Ironically that situation could have occured with the test result known earlier ...
Sasha can't complain about the points she got with this program that doesn't disturb her at all while doing all her jumps. And regarding her jumps (would they all have been clean, she would have won btw - I doubt that Anna could have replaced one of her 2A with a 4Lz successfully) - they are great risks and the system doesn't exactly reward this - 3 quads & 1 3A is the magic winning formula in the FS as one can go for additional 3-3s. Flip and Lutz are obviously her stronger jumps, Toe has become quite unstable, often with a noticeable lean on it, and Flip/Lutz are worth way more anyways. 3A was NOT wise at all in the SP - Plushenko couldn't stop her from jumping, Eteri can't. In the end, she made history, but payed the prize for that.
Kami had one performance without any errors (RUSnats) and one without any significant errors (Rostelecom - the board came too close for 4T/3S); Skate Canada turned out shaky regarding 3A and at Euros she produced a skate nearly ex aequo with Anna (168+) which would have lost today as well. Back then it wasn't peak time, but there wasn't any additional problem - nevertheless she appeared a bit derailed there and Anna was getting closer already. I was a bit surprised when Nikita stated Kami being a fragile little girl during TE - but regarding the whole season up to this point he was right ... afterwards it was astonishing how she survived the SP.
Anna - what an achievement. She was always the one destined to be left with silver somehow ... first vs. Sasha, who simply outjumped anyon, then vs. Aliona, so she worked hard to overcome the disadvantage of not having a 3A after the SP - and managed to do it once (RUSnats). Then vs. Kami, with an even greater disadvantage. During this very uneven season she slowly came back; without her broken shoes perhaps even the third quad could have worked out (would have resulted in 185+/-, not so far from the area Kami should avoid mistakes). After all these problems, bad trainings in Peking and an unfortunate RUSnats I'm glad the gold went to Anna, it was the best possible outcome in this drama.
Sasha can't complain about the points she got with this program that doesn't disturb her at all while doing all her jumps. And regarding her jumps (would they all have been clean, she would have won btw - I doubt that Anna could have replaced one of her 2A with a 4Lz successfully) - they are great risks and the system doesn't exactly reward this - 3 quads & 1 3A is the magic winning formula in the FS as one can go for additional 3-3s. Flip and Lutz are obviously her stronger jumps, Toe has become quite unstable, often with a noticeable lean on it, and Flip/Lutz are worth way more anyways. 3A was NOT wise at all in the SP - Plushenko couldn't stop her from jumping, Eteri can't. In the end, she made history, but payed the prize for that.
Kami had one performance without any errors (RUSnats) and one without any significant errors (Rostelecom - the board came too close for 4T/3S); Skate Canada turned out shaky regarding 3A and at Euros she produced a skate nearly ex aequo with Anna (168+) which would have lost today as well. Back then it wasn't peak time, but there wasn't any additional problem - nevertheless she appeared a bit derailed there and Anna was getting closer already. I was a bit surprised when Nikita stated Kami being a fragile little girl during TE - but regarding the whole season up to this point he was right ... afterwards it was astonishing how she survived the SP.
Anna - what an achievement. She was always the one destined to be left with silver somehow ... first vs. Sasha, who simply outjumped anyon, then vs. Aliona, so she worked hard to overcome the disadvantage of not having a 3A after the SP - and managed to do it once (RUSnats). Then vs. Kami, with an even greater disadvantage. During this very uneven season she slowly came back; without her broken shoes perhaps even the third quad could have worked out (would have resulted in 185+/-, not so far from the area Kami should avoid mistakes). After all these problems, bad trainings in Peking and an unfortunate RUSnats I'm glad the gold went to Anna, it was the best possible outcome in this drama.
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Earlier in the thread, someone asked if those who didn't think Kamila deserved to compete were happy.
No, I'm not happy.
This is the most shameful Olympic episode in recent memory, and it didn't have to be that way.
The fallout is coming. There won't be any winners when it does.
No, I'm not happy.
This is the most shameful Olympic episode in recent memory, and it didn't have to be that way.
The fallout is coming. There won't be any winners when it does.
I like Anna the most out of the Russian girls. Of course, I have sympathy for all of them, but I feel the most sad for Anna, but I think she will also have the best ability to cope with everything. There's clearly too much drama going on over at Team Eteri, but she is the calm and steady one who emerged from the storm. A fine example indeed.
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i have to agree since i had the same initial reaction. i think we were all feeling A LOT of different emotions over what was happening, shock being a big one for me. it was just jarring to see.
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Everyone blames Eteri, the environment, maybe Kamila guilty..
but who to blame if they are innocent ? Sweden laboratory?
who should be punished for this?
Kamila - “now they don't have to cancel the ceremony”
but who to blame if they are innocent ? Sweden laboratory?
who should be punished for this?
Kamila - “now they don't have to cancel the ceremony”
She's not the first to have a meltdown and she won't be the last. Some skaters years older have acted worse in the past. Difference is they were allowed to let out the steam away from the press. They don't do that anymore. Now it's all in their face a dn Aleksandra is a victim of that
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When did carrots become a fruit???
Honestly, this is what I thought too. I've heard many many many coaches say this to skatees even in the lower levels (meaning prejuv, etc) and I've never thought of them as "monsters".
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It´s the timing. Nobody said Eteri isn´t allowed to give her coaching talk, but she should have done it later. This wasn´t the time to blurt out with what she should have done different. This was most likely Kamilas worst day in her life and normal human beings knows this is not how you should react right away when someone is very obvious hurting.
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