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2024-25 German Figure Skating

Jumping_Bean

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Congrats for the bronze 🥉 and some clarification abot G/S's further plans:


If they want to stay in Europe, options are limited. Within Germany even more.
  • Zanni's teams are strong in one of the areas G/S are a bit weaker in (speed, not like they're slow. but they are no Czech sibling team either), so if that's an area they want to work on, he'd be a good option.
  • Barbara Fusar-Poli has another German team (Matthei/Liebers), so that would make the transition easier and her teams are technically strong, if a bit uninspired.
  • Caruso has not had that much success with coaching tbh, and with the controversy... I don't know.
  • Karine Arribert has a lot of teams who are direct competitors to G/S, but her teams have a quirky style and strong technical basics that would benefit G/S's development.
  • Rizzo has Tali/Lafornara, but he's a technical specialist even if I find many of his teams' programs mediocre.
Any major coaching team I'm missing? 🤔
Either way, while unfortunate, it's smart to try out a few different coaching situations. After the JGP, they'll have time until the JGP (if they make it there ❤️‍🩹), even if that means Senior Challengers have to take a backseat again.
 

4everchan

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If they want to stay in Europe, options are limited. Within Germany even more.
  • Zanni's teams are strong in one of the areas G/S are a bit weaker in (speed, not like they're slow. but they are no Czech sibling team either), so if that's an area they want to work on, he'd be a good option.
  • Barbara Fusar-Poli has another German team (Matthei/Liebers), so that would make the transition easier and her teams are technically strong, if a bit uninspired.
  • Caruso has not had that much success with coaching tbh, and with the controversy... I don't know.
  • Karine Arribert has a lot of teams who are direct competitors to G/S, but her teams have a quirky style and strong technical basics that would benefit G/S's development.
  • Rizzo has Tali/Lafornara, but he's a technical specialist even if I find many of his teams' programs mediocre.
Any major coaching team I'm missing? 🤔
Either way, while unfortunate, it's smart to try out a few different coaching situations. After the JGP, they'll have time until the JGP (if they make it there ❤️‍🩹), even if that means Senior Challengers have to take a backseat again.
I hope they don't go with Fusar-Poli or Rizzo. I don't see Arribert taking them but what do I know : it looks good on paper but she's got a lot of their competitors indeed. I hope they don't come to IAM ;) though it would mean that I may see them skate at summer events or Autumn Classic ;) What do you think about the Lanes for them ?
 

Jumping_Bean

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I hope they don't go with Fusar-Poli or Rizzo. I don't see Arribert taking them but what do I know : it looks good on paper but she's got a lot of their competitors indeed. I hope they don't come to IAM ;) though it would mean that I may see them skate at summer events or Autumn Classic ;) What do you think about the Lanes for them ?
I don't see them moving so far away currently - Dasha still has to finish school (I think she's in her last year? So would be finishing after Jr Words) and funding is sparse. I'm personally not happy with the work Carol is currently doing with BaBeau, but the theater kid energy her teams have is honestly very fitting for G/S.

My personal secret wish would be Elena Dostatni (and Kaitlyn Weaver choreo) - And no, not just because G/S and Liv and Luke are buddies and it would be cute to see them interact more, but also because Elena is doing a great job with Neset/Markelov and Flores/Desyatov. They'd have to win in the lottery to afford that though, I fear.

Obviously, that also applies to IAM - But if they were to somehow make it there, then they better take the same coaching arrangement as Lauriault/LeGac, because they definitely are kindred spirits when it comes to insane transitional content and characterisation.
 
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lilimum

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Any major coaching team I'm missing? 🤔
I the kiss & cry they have been with Neil Brown, perhpas Maurizio Margaglio/Neil Brown is an option.
I am really upset that G/S want (or have to) leave the training group of Rostislav Sinicyn. I think they have an unique style and the chorepgraphies are so creative. I don*t want to see the next IAM team. I Germay there is no alternative to Sinicyn when it comes to Ice Dance and outside Germany there will be no funding from the German Fed for training.
 

PaulE

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I am asking this question here because there is not a current thread about the German National Championships. I love Oberstdorf and am thinking about going there during December. I notice from the Eissport Zentrum website (https://www.eissportzentrum-oberstdorf.de/events/) that German Nats will be there from 16-21 December. Does anyone know if they sell out the tickets. In my personal opinion there are no really bad seats at the arena so I would not mind sitting anywhere and it would certainly be easier for me to buy tickets after arrival in Oberstdorf if I should decide to go and spend Christmas there.
 

lilimum

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I am asking this question here because there is not a current thread about the German National Championships. I love Oberstdorf and am thinking about going there during December. I notice from the Eissport Zentrum website (https://www.eissportzentrum-oberstdorf.de/events/) that German Nats will be there from 16-21 December. Does anyone know if they sell out the tickets. In my personal opinion there are no really bad seats at the arena so I would not mind sitting anywhere and it would certainly be easier for me to buy tickets after arrival in Oberstdorf if I should decide to go and spend Christmas there.
Please be aware that figure skating in Germany on a Senior level is not really existing. There are only the few member of the national team that*s it. None of the disciplines constists of more than one warm-up group at Nationals. So don*t be dissapointed if you go there. Rearding tickets I think there will be no possibility to buy online so only pre-reservation by phone.
 

Jumping_Bean

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I the kiss & cry they have been with Neil Brown, perhpas Maurizio Margaglio/Neil Brown is an option.
I am really upset that G/S want (or have to) leave the training group of Rostislav Sinicyn. I think they have an unique style and the chorepgraphies are so creative. I don*t want to see the next IAM team. I Germay there is no alternative to Sinicyn when it comes to Ice Dance and outside Germany there will be no funding from the German Fed for training.
Dasha seems to be close with some of their skaters, like Hilda Taylor, which would definitely be helpful.
And they coach Orihara/Pirinen, Lagouge/Caffa and Turkkila/Versluis, all teams I enjoy a lot. Definitely a coaching team that would be experienced but experimental enough to be a real option.
 

Weathergal

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I the kiss & cry they have been with Neil Brown, perhpas Maurizio Margaglio/Neil Brown is an option.
I am really upset that G/S want (or have to) leave the training group of Rostislav Sinicyn. I think they have an unique style and the chorepgraphies are so creative. I don*t want to see the next IAM team. I Germay there is no alternative to Sinicyn when it comes to Ice Dance and outside Germany there will be no funding from the German Fed for training.
Do we know why they're leaving Sinicyn's group?
 

DemTuppesSeine

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No Anna 😔 but it makes sense, I guess. She won't make the JGPF and she has her JWC mins.
 

lilimum

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Genrikh got a second JGP assignment in Ljubljana, Julia Grabowski got the Junior women's spot.
both made 6th place Annas 6th place is even more worth if you bring it in relation to the number of skaters. But the womens spot is going to somebody else, what I think is fair, because with the 6th place there is no chance to get a final spot. so why not to give the change to go tho the JGP to several young skaters. The mens spot goes to someone who just arrived in Germany got trained somerwhere else under complete different conditions like everybodey else in Germany and is now hyped by DEU and BEV. That is not fair. The participation at the JPG should be like an award for an successful development and good result in the past (in Germany) not somewhere else. That is my opinion.
 

Jumping_Bean

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Julia Grabowski got the Junior women's spot.
Anna replaces Julia - As I was expecting.

Always keep in mind that entries are often submitted before competition results come in - The women at Jr Test Skates were likely more evenly matched than the men, so they initially planned to give four different women assignments and Anna's result was unexpectedly good.
 

DemTuppesSeine

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I would also have
Anna replaces Julia - As I was expecting.

Always keep in mind that entries are often submitted before competition results come in - The women at Jr Test Skates were likely more evenly matched than the men, so they initially planned to give four different women assignments and Anna's result was unexpectedly good.
I would also have understood if they had not replaced her. Anna has her Junior World mins already so they could have tried to give more girls the chance as well. But I'm happy anyways :)
 

Jumping_Bean

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I would also have understood if they had not replaced her. Anna has her Junior World mins already so they could have tried to give more girls the chance as well. But I'm happy anyways :)
Julia is likely to do both the NRW Trophy and Bavarian Open (she has the last three seasons at least), so she can get minimums there.

The DEU's rules also state that a top 10 placement at the first JGP assignment means that the skater gets the opportunity to skate at a second assignment.
Of course, if Olesya also places in the top ten at her first assignment, this rule will have to be broken for either her or Anna, as only one JGP is left for German singles skaters after this point. No official guidelines for that (yet), guess the DEU has not commonly been in that position 😅
 

DemTuppesSeine

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The DEU's rules also state that a top 10 placement at the first JGP assignment means that the skater gets the opportunity to skate at a second assignment.
Of course, if Olesya also places in the top ten at her first assignment, this rule will have to be broken for either her or Anna, as only one JGP is left for German singles skaters after this point. No official guidelines for that (yet), guess the DEU has not commonly been in that position 😅
I have to admit I'm not familiar with the rules, thanks for clarifying :) And I guess that really didn't happen often in the past 😂 but if that was about to change, it would be great
 

lilimum

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Julia is likely to do both the NRW Trophy and Bavarian Open (she has the last three seasons at least), so she can get minimums there.

The DEU's rules also state that a top 10 placement at the first JGP assignment means that the skater gets the opportunity to skate at a second assignment.
Of course, if Olesya also places in the top ten at her first assignment, this rule will have to be broken for either her or Anna, as only one JGP is left for German singles skaters after this point. No official guidelines for that (yet), guess the DEU has not commonly been in that position 😅
No, the actual rules state top 3, what makes sense because there would be a chance to reach then final.
 
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