2024-25 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[Mariott]

Eteri Tutberidze holds a paid open training session with the participation of all the stars of her group in singles and pairs skating. Spectators will be able to watch the training and get an autograph.
Part of the funds will be donated to Arina Parsegova's family to pay off her debts.

Tickets cost about $111,33 + 10% fee. The auditorium seats approximately 500 people. Even if the hall fills half full, they will raise the amount needed.
It's the queen's move

 

[Kittosuni]

A quick conversion shows that 1.9M rubles is the equivalent of $21K American dollars. Still a significant amount, but not quite as excessive as it sounds.

I'm curious to know what was her 8 years contract with AOP entailed? and how did they came up with the 1.9 M rubbles? I'm guessing that this is the cost of her training while she was with AOP? or was she being paid by AOP while training there?

 

[Mariott]

I'm curious to know what was her 8 years contract with AOP entailed? and how did they came up with the 1.9 M rubbles? I'm guessing that this is the cost of her training while she was with AOP? or was she being paid by AOP while training there?

This is the cost of training for the expired period + liquidated damages + fines for consultations and lessons with outside specialists.
According to AOP's statements, they would have settled if Arina had gone somewhere other than Tutberidze's group. But in this case they have objections in principle.

Most of us don't understand how a contract for eight years can be drawn up when a teenager's goals and objectives may change in the next year. There could also be health changes or body changes that would make playing sports undesirable.

 

[lariko]

I mean, given the horror treatment Trusova and Kostornaya recieved when transferring, a request to pay out the contract is a step in the right direction, if there was no smear campaign attached to it. And we all know who is the biggest suppliser of that in Russian FS. Contract system is what should avoid the acrimony when transfers happen and no further discussion. Next person signing contract should obviously contract a lawyer, duh. Serious money, serious legal representation. It's been what? 34 years of commercial existence in Russia? Lol.

 

[Mathematician]

Eteri Tutberidze holds a paid open training session with the participation of all the stars of her group in singles and pairs skating. Spectators will be able to watch the training and get an autograph.
Part of the funds will be donated to Arina Parsegova's family to pay off her debts.

Tickets cost about $1,125. The auditorium seats approximately 500 people. Even if the hall fills half full, they will raise the amount needed.
It's the queen's move

This is a slam dunk PR move from camp Turberidze. They say he sued "on principle" because she moved to Turberidze specifically, what an absolutely stupid statement. They have millions in funding at least, what is an extra 20k? How did they not see this coming? They could have stayed quiet and played the hyper-professional camp who doesn't mess around with contracts card (still wouldn't look great, but there is a semblance of standard industry justification to hide behind), but mentioning Eteri's camp specifically is absolutely catastrophic. Makes them look unbelievably insecure, they are admitting they are scared and inferior. They might as well have begged Eteri to slaughter them in the media with the easiest PR stunt in history. Is this the work of Plushenko's wife or how did they give Eteri such an alley-oop? They cleared the whole court off for her and even set up a trampoline so she could fly in from the 3-point line and break the backboard. One of the worst commercial plays I've ever seen in figure skating. I just dont understand how things this obvious get overlooked at such a high level, there must be something more going on. Maybe Mrs. Plushenko is just seriously unhinged, I think that is the consensus in the Russian community.

 

[Caliban]

Tickets cost about $1,125.

Ten times less actually - near 123 USD (10 000 RUB + 10% fee)

 

[Amei]

This is a slam dunk PR move from camp Turberidze. They say he sued "on principle" because she moved to Turberidze specifically, what an absolutely stupid statement. They have millions in funding at least, what is an extra 20k? How did they not see this coming? They could have stated quiet and played the hyper-professional camp who doesn't mess around with contracts card (still wouldn't look great, but there is a semblance of standard industry justification to hide behind), but mentioning Eteri's camp specifically is absolutely catastrophic. Makes them look unbelievably insecure, they are admitting they are scared and inferior to that camp. They basically begged Eteri to slaughter them in the media with the easiest PR stunt in history. Is this the work of Plushenko's wife or how did they give Eteri such a totally free alley-oop? They cleared the whole court off for her and even set up a trampoline so she could fly in from the 3-point line and break the backboard. One of the worst commercial plays I've ever seen in figure skating. I just dont understand how things this obvious get overlooked at such a high level, there must be something more going on. Maybe Mrs. Plushenko is just seriously unhinged, I think that is the consensus in the Russian community.

Agree, Eteri's PR has taken some hits and AoP handed her this on a silver platter. AoP could have *after the lawsuit* said the debt could be settled for 1 ruble, some blah-blah lines about wanting it acknowledged they take their contracts seriously, however in this instance they realize there were some extenuating circumstances with this family.

Your last point: if Telegram is a good representation of the Russin FS community the answer is yes that people think she's unhinged.

 

[Remilia]

I hope mama Parsegova is prepared to never leave Eteri, cause if she does...well, I'm sure Eteri will have nothing nice to say

 

[Mariott]

Ten times less actually - near 123 USD (10 000 RUB + 10% fee)

Yes, I did have an extra digit hit, haha, math has never been my strong suit

However, a lot of people think it's too expensive, but I realize that the hall is small and therefore tickets are more expensive than if it were happening in a giant hall.

Many skaters from Tutberidze's group have already posted their invitations to the training, inviting fans: Boikova-Kozlovskiy, Adelia Petrosyan, Sofia Akatieva, Andrei Mozalev, Arseniy Fedotov.

It is worth noting that some people buy tickets even knowing that they will not go to the event because they will not be able to come to Moscow. This is purely for the purpose of helping Arina in her difficult situation.

 

[Mariott]

I hope mama Parsegova is prepared to never leave Eteri, cause if she does...well, I'm sure Eteri will have nothing nice to say

Anyway, you can't deny that Eteri is the only one who offered real help to the figure skater and her family in this situation.

 

[Remilia]

Anyway, you can't deny that Eteri is the only one who offered real help to the figure skater and her family in this situation.

Eh, Eteri gets no praise from me. She could've paid the debt using her own money if she truly cared...the only reason she's doing this is for the PR win, not because she cares about Arina

 

[Remilia]

My take on this case is that on one hand, the mom was stupid to sign a contract on behalf of her daughter without carefully going over it, and it was even more stupid of her to think she could break it with no consequences. But on the other hand, this was incredibly petty of Plushy/Yana, and frankly I'm not sure what they hoped to gain from this. Surely they knew it would become public, and surely they knew it wouldn't bring good PR, especially once the death of the dad became known...I certainly hope their skaters won't be punished score wise because of them

 

[Mathematician]

My take on this case is that on one hand, the mom was stupid to sign a contract on behalf of her daughter without carefully going over it, and it was even more stupid of her to think she could break it with no consequences.

From what I understand her daughter was being treated far below standard. I dont think you can really judge her for expecting a way different experience. I do think it was silly to sign for 8 or 10 years or whatever it was in any case.

Eh, Eteri gets no praise from me. She could've paid the debt using her own money if she truly cared...the only reason she's doing this is for the PR win, not because she cares about Arina

I doubt Eteri is that rich where she can cough up 20k for a new student. I bet the academy gets insane funding, she probably has very rich and powerful contacts but its not personal money. In and of itself this event funding is very reasonable and a positive thing. I don't praise Eteri much in any case. Like I said I dont trust any big coaches in sports anymore. Especially dealing with young kids. But to expect her to have done any more is completely unreasonable. Of course it is a PR move that Plushenko handed her for free but theres totally nothing to be upset about in this instance. The family is getting help and nobody is getting hurt.

I hope mama Parsegova is prepared to never leave Eteri, cause if she does...well, I'm sure Eteri will have nothing nice to say

Good point, Parcegova is totally locked into the group now.

 

[Mariott]

Eh, Eteri gets no praise from me. She could've paid the debt using her own money if she truly cared...the only reason she's doing this is for the PR win, not because she cares about Arina

Yeah, I'm most amused by commenters like that. Why doesn't Plushenko forgive the debt or make the most forgiving repayment terms possible? No, no, how can you do that, this is the world of capital, you have to pay for everything. Eteri is putting together a charity event to help solve a problem (and it's not her problem, she doesn't have to, to be precise)? How dare she think about money, what about charity and mercy, she should have given her personal funds (which she does anyway, because if it wasn't for Arina, the whole collection would have been divided between the event participants and the organizers).
Whatever Eteri's motives, she is the only one who really helped. There were no other offers of help.

 

[Mariott]

Good point, Parcegova is totally locked into the group now.

I don't think it makes sense in principle for Parsegova to move anywhere within her sport, because she simply won't find a more qualified staff in Russia. If she wants to move to ice dancing or pairs skating, for example, or change sports flag, then it's a matter for discussion.

 

[Mathematician]

I don't think it makes sense in principle for Parsegova to move anywhere within her sport, because she simply won't find a more qualified staff in Russia. If she wants to move to ice dancing or pairs skating, for example, or change sports flag, then it's a matter for discussion.

Yea, it doesnt seem like Eteri's skaters want to leave often, but the point still stands that she is morally obliged to stay. There have been skaters seem to have rocky feelings with Eteri. But I doubt Eteri really has the motive to lock anyone in, just cause she almost has a monopoly on the best in the world. I dont see anything nefarious about this situation from Eteri's side. It seems like skeptics are trying to smear her in any way possible, totally blinded with irrational hatred for someone they dont even know. Cant they just recognize a single positive act regardless of the motives? If it doesnt hurt anyone? I remain neutral on Eteri.

 

[Amei]

I mean, given the horror treatment Trusova and Kostornaya recieved when transferring, a request to pay out the contract is a step in the right direction, if there was no smear campaign attached to it. And we all know who is the biggest suppliser of that in Russian FS. Contract system is what should avoid the acrimony when transfers happen and no further discussion. Next person signing contract should obviously contract a lawyer, duh. Serious money, serious legal representation. It's been what? 34 years of commercial existence in Russia? Lol.

What "horror" treatment did Trusova receive? And I don't think trapping kids/indebting families with terrible contracts is any better than nasty remarks because you matched your coach's drama queen energy.

 

[Mathematician]

This program is tremendously growing on me. I am really interested to watch it become refined throughout this season. I think there is masterpiece potential for her to reach by finals.

 

[Caliban]

Tutberidze said that Parsegova's entire debt will be closed regardless of revenue:

Arina Parsegova's debt will be closed completely regardless of the amount earned at our open training session

Our entire team will try to conduct this open training-rentals so that the audience is interested and understands what is happening, starting with the draw. There will be cameras with screen output and microphones for the coaching staff

 

[Mathematician]

Test Skates:

All times for GMT +3

14 September, Saturday:

Short Program

14:00 Women
15:20 Men
16:45 Pairs
17:55 Ice Dance

15 September, Sunday:

Free Skate

14:00 Women
15:35 Men
17:15 Pairs
18:35 Ice Dance

For Americans 14:00 GMT +3 = 07:00 EST