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2025 CS Lombardia Trophy Men's Free Skate

I watched Ilia Yuma and Adam.

For Adam, the long program makes sense with the SP... with the artwork reveal. I cannot say much about it because he was not having a good day so it was hard to watch him fall heavily at the beginning. I saw some really nice moments with the music but I will wait to see what he does when he skates it better.

Ilia, oh lord. I am guessing it's his voice for voiceovers ??? It felt pretentious to me, just my opinion of course, but moreover, I felt like he was paying more attention to the words rather than the musical line. Granted the music is quite empty but it was distracting me. I am a musician so "word painting" is something I am aware of. It's when a composer reflects musically the text and sets it in a way that works both with the meaning of the words and the musical line. The danger for a performer is to lose track of the bigger picture : the greater musical line, and get themselves lost in the small details of the text setting. I felt Ilia did exactly that in there. I was happy to see him do his step sequence earlier in the LP than what I remember him doing in some other programs. I was happy to see him do steps on slower music to. I was ready for the flow and the gliding that this type of step sequence normally gives us... but the flow was often interrupted by choreographic movements, mostly arms, to the words. I didn't like that at all, as you can tell by the entire paragraph I wrote about it. What I did like is that he did refine his backflip, the one foot landing is nice. The knee slide was not good. And what was really fun to watch is that he did include the raspberry twist within a spin itself. Now, that's cool. Yes, he is a crazy acrobatic kind of guy, and kudos to him to bring in some new cool moves. I had never seen that before, so to me it's new... someone can enlighten me if someone else did include that variation before.

Yuma : he has my favourite LP of the 3. Sure, it's so conventional. But to me, this is what pure and beautiful figure skating is. I adored his Nessun Dorma program, and also, he didn't pick the aria (solo) and to me, that's a good choice as the choir is less intrusive in the skating than a tenor pushing high notes. Yuma also has the most beautiful combo of the evening with his triple flip triple loop. That thing was beauty ! It looked like hops and it was so lightly done. Wow.... Virtuoso material ( Ilia comes second for his 4s 3a sequence which was also very nice but for other reasons, power being one of them) Yuma's step sequence was so good !

My take on this is that all 3 are bringing different things to skating. I am more impressed with Yuma because that's the kind of skating I have been watching and loving for years. Pure beauty and flow, which is unfortunately not the focus these days.

I like Adam and clearly, his programs are story-telling and will be memorable. For good and bad reasons :)

Ilia skated a watered down content today but that is still enough to win. However, in terms of choreography, it's weak in my opinion. I'd scrap the entire program and start over again. He has had better material before. Again, props to him for exploring new ideas but this one doesn't work for me.
 
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Is it me or Adam lost his balance on his quad jump since that he has Aura boots ? It seem to me that he was not skating with Aura boots in 2024 Montreal World and have better balance in his quad with his old skate brand. Maybe he should rebuy his old skate brand and that Aura boots doesn't work for him ?
 
Sorry to say but this sounds like someone piled together several "deep-sounding" quotations read over slow music with a pretentiously "deep" voice to give the program a pretence of depth they are sadly not able to create with their skating....
My mind went to the old Saturday Night Live skit "Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy."

 
After a collision with Han Yan in warm up, Yuzuru Hanyu had 5 falls but the best PCS in the Men's Free Skate - 2014 Cup of China. Just because someone falls several times, doesn't mean you obliterate their entire PCS.
 
After a collision with Han Yan in warm up, Yuzuru Hanyu had 5 falls but the best PCS in the Men's Free Skate - 2014 Cup of China. Just because someone falls several times, doesn't mean you obliterate their entire PCS.
That was then this is now. I think the rules now says (I can be wrong), falls means that you can't have PCS's over 8.0.
 
Who pissed off Ilia? This afternoon he posted on Instagram:


"No matter what you do, there will always be people with something to say. Get some ice skates and go try what I do. Then we will see what you say."

I watched his FS, I didn't think it was bad at all. And if it were, I'd surely have no problem telling him. While I'm on the topic of Ilia, I finally love something about Ilia and it's his clothing. I know it's his practice clothing but I always wanted a guy to skate in a black body suit with black gloves. Why? Simple. The contrast between the black against the white ice and the white boards makes the lines of the body stand out even more.
 
That was then this is now. I think the rules now says (I can be wrong), falls means that you can't have PCS's over 8.0.

It's not carved in stone. Adam took big hits on GOE and - 4.00 in deductions. See for yourself:


As far as what's his name goes . . .


Why should any of that be impressive? It isn't.
 
That was then this is now. I think the rules now says (I can be wrong), falls means that you can't have PCS's over 8.0.
I think with 2 or more falls the cap is 9:0, and not for all the components.... but I might be wrong, of course.
 
That was then this is now. I think the rules now says (I can be wrong), falls means that you can't have PCS's over 8.0.
The rule is wishy-washy, it's something like 'two mistakes that sufficiently detract from immersing into performance'
 
Why should any of that be impressive? It isn't.
No it's not impressive, technically. But that's not the point.
I guess I might be biased, I am Swedish after all😘

However, now when I have seen the performances, I think Andreas had no major errors (though he is much weaker technically than Adam). Andreas have this feel for the performance, and I find Adam is just setting up another quad. And I say that as an Adam fan.

This is what I generally find is misleading with PCS. The PCS scores always follows the Tech scores. And just like in the olden days, judges are using PCS (Presentation in the old days) for placings, not what they see is performed. Which is also why that STILL, skaters that perform in the last group always get higher PCS than the skaters before.
 
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Who pissed off Ilia? This afternoon he posted on Instagram:

"No matter what you do, there will always be people with something to say. Get some ice skates and go try what I do. Then we will see what you say."
Clearly he's not taking the criticism well, lol!
 
No it's not impressive, technically. But that's not the point.
I guess I might be biased, I am Swedish after all😘
Rarely do I like an American's skating. I finally do and it's the skating of Andrew Torgashev.

However, now when I have seen the performances, I think Andreas had no major errors (though he is much weaker technically than Adam). Andreas have this feel for the performance, and I find Adam is just setting up another quad. And I say that as an Adam fan.

This is what I generally find is misleading with PCS. The PCS scores always follows the Tech scores. And just like in the olden days, judges are using PCS (Presentation in the old days) for placings, not what they see is performed. Which is also why that STILL, skaters that perform in the last group always get higher PCS than the skaters before.

Go back to the 6.0 era. The judges used to lowball Philippe Candeloro's tech scores but frequently raised him up on his presentation scores. In other words, presentation did not necessarily follow the tech and I like it that way. It keeps it real.
 
Rarely do I like an American's skating. I finally do and it's the skating of Andrew Torgashev.



Go back to the 6.0 era. The judges used to lowball Philippe Candeloro's tech scores but frequently raised him up on his presentation scores. In other words, presentation did not necessarily follow the tech and I like it that way. It keeps it real.
Nah, I disagree, in those days skaters that were really really weak technically got a jail free card. That wasn't good either. I won't say any names, but quite a few skaters just "disappeared" when the IJS system got going because they weren't that good technically.

I am a mostly a technical fan overall, but seeing the use of PCS just like they did in the 6.0 era is just irritating to me.

Love Torgashev btw, he and the junior Blackwell is my fave American skaters right now... ;)
 
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