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2025 World Championships Men's Free Skate

I liked Nicholaj Memola's skate. Is he really as thin as he looks on TV, or is he just tall?

He is probably really thin in real life, too but he is also very tall - 195 cm / 6' 5" which makes him mostly likely the tallest male figure skater ever.

Guys I'm really not trying to be hateful but to me, Ilyas PCS should be close to Shaidorovs, the program is empty and there is a lot of two leg skating, even in the step sequence. Ye he does more showmanship, that's the only difference.

He only does a bit of showmanship when he is done with the jumps. His program is painfully empty, there is nothing really see in the first 3 minutes or more. If he wasn't American he would get no more than 82 PCS, just like Mikhail Shaidorov.
 
Actually I believe winning a medal at an ISU championship does indeed make one one of the elite skaters in the world. Most skaters at Worlds have not won a medal at an ISU championship.

I’d also love to normalize men (and women) skating past 30, taking breaks and doing shows and coming back, etc
Rebranding: Jimmy Ma is the Deanna Stellato-Dudek of the Men's event
 
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With this result, Kazakhstan has a chance to grab two more Olympic spots in the qualifier, is that correct?

We have Dias Jirenbayev, do we have another Kazakh man who can contend for these spots?
Countries can only at most qualify one more spot at the Qualifying competition than the number of skaters from that country, who made the Free at World.

Kazakhstan does have three spots for Worlds next season, though, but Dias doesn't have the TES minimums (off by 1.27) and neither does Rakhat Bralin. Artur Smagulov is turning Sr-eligible next season, but his Junior TES are some way off from the Senior Worlds minimums.
 
I give a Gold Medal to the Boston (etc) fans and to KMT; she was great!!!
I have been meaning to commend the Boston audience for their stellar support of all skaters in the 8 events. The support was mentioned countless times by the skaters and I agree.....one of the best crowds ever! Kirsten has my vote for doing all of the skating commentary. She's amazing and doing her research really showed.
 
I knew that Ilia would win the title Congrats to him, amazing athlete! What a pleasant surprise from Mikhail, he had a stellar
performance, loved it and well deserved Silver Medal! Yuma won the Bronze because of his high scoring SP which was fabulous,
some people seem to forget that. It really was a disaster skate from Yuma something we are not used to seeing from him
but it happens. Jason and Shun were great. Kudos to them for helping to secure the magical 3 spots for their country.:clap:
 
I haven’t been reading through all the thread, but did anybody notice that Jason got a higher PCS score than every single other skater? I think the judges are sending a message to all the skaters that they need to look out more for that side of their Skating, meaning their fundamental skills and presentation versus just the ability to rotate multiple times over the ice. I am so happy that they still recognize Jason as who is now the best skater in the world at least in terms of his ability to do things with his skate blade as opposed to just jumping. The judges got that one right for sure.😀
 
He is probably really thin in real life, too but he is also very tall - 195 cm / 6' 5" which makes him mostly likely the tallest male figure skater ever.



He only does a bit of showmanship when he is done with the jumps. His program is painfully empty, there is nothing really see in the first 3 minutes or more. If he wasn't American he would get no more than 82 PCS, just like Mikhail Shaidorov.
A lot of these skaters need to look at videos of Jason Brown, but also go way back to the 70s (a lot of these skaters could learn about what beautiful crossovers look like by watching a video of John Curry for example. Smooth, and even instead of hitched) and look at people that they may not have seen video of to understand the blade better on the ice. This is not to say obviously that they don’t understand it, but that they don’t have a sensitivity to it that some skaters have. I don’t find Malini‘s skating to be exciting except for the jumps (which are obviously very exciting to see)versus someone like Jason who’s skating is incredibly exciting even though he doesn’t have quads! It’s a fundamental issue with the Skating world and with judging that the ability to rotate in the air, which is a gymnastic ability , doesn’t have as much to do with the blade as good footwork and spins and choreography do. But thank goodness the code of points has made smooth entrances and beautiful exit glides a scoreable item. Those things obviously do have to do with jump technique and the control one has before and after the jump. but Jason has this for example so I don’t understand why the ability to rotate multiple times is so incredibly valuable to a score. I think it should be part of it, but not as heavily valued in the scoring system as it is now. It also invites injury due to the torque and the pressure on the knees and back. It won’t surprise me if Malinin ends up being badly injured in knees or back or hips. I wonder what other people think.
I fully admit my bias for Jason by the way, which is obvious. But I hope my point gets across even if I didn’t have that particular name to use as an example.
 
I haven’t been reading through all the thread, but did anybody notice that Jason got a higher PCS score than every single other skater? I think the judges are sending a message to all the skaters that they need to look out more for that side of their Skating, meaning their fundamental skills and presentation versus just the ability to rotate multiple times over the ice. I am so happy that they still recognize Jason as who is now the best skater in the world at least in terms of his ability to do things with his skate blade as opposed to just jumping. The judges got that one right for sure.😀
Sorry but that only happens to Jason (based on his reputation and not what he skated yesterday) ... or if you are american in a worlds in america ... the proof is the PCS of Mallin. Jason is a great performance ( maybe the best of all times) but nowadays the distance to other men's performance isn't no longer so significant ..
 
Guys I'm really not trying to be hateful but to me, Ilyas PCS should be close to Shaidorovs, the program is empty and there is a lot of two leg skating, even in the step sequence. Ye he does more showmanship, that's the only difference.
I think that we fans of men's figure skating have no choice except to face reality. Reality is that PCSs are irrelevant when the one at the top of the heap brings quad Axels, quad flips, quad Lures, quad loops to the table and the other guys struggle to land their quad toes and Salchows.

The king of the hill will always get OK marks in skating skills, choreography, etc., but it doesn't really matter if he does or not. This is small potatoes in the IJS.
 
Countries can only at most qualify one more spot at the Qualifying competition than the number of skaters from that country, who made the Free at World.

Kazakhstan does have three spots for Worlds next season, though, but Dias doesn't have the TES minimums (off by 1.27) and neither does Rakhat Bralin. Artur Smagulov is turning Sr-eligible next season, but his Junior TES are some way off from the Senior Worlds minimums.
for the olympics though, the TES minimum is lower... and i think on par with 4CC.. in any case, I don't see KAZ men qualifying in China... that competition will be hardcore.
 
I think that we fans of men's figure skating have no choice except to face reality. Reality is that PCSs are irrelevant when the one at the top of the heap brings quad Axels, quad flips, quad Lures, quad loops to the table and the other guys struggle to land their quad toes and Salchows.

The king of the hill will always get OK marks in skating skills, choreography, etc., but it doesn't really matter if he does or not. This is small potatoes in the IJS.
And that's where it proves IJS got pretty outdated and it needs to be reformed asap, just the way it was updated and changed to incorporate the Zagitova rule as a way to adapt to the reality and repair the obvious loopholes in the scoring system then. Having all the jumps backloaded was not the idea behind the original introduction of the bonus points, so when it was overused by some skaters, it was changed. Quite the same, making PCS irrelevant and making sure the top jumper will be rewarded with top marks in skating skills, choreography etc. irrelevant of what he shows on the ice was not the original idea behind introducing the IJS. My feeling is it was quite to the contrary - seeking balanced programs and well-rounded skaters. Which it did for a while but obviously is failing to do by now. So....
 
Imo, the losers in this competition in terms of the PCSs and tech reindeer games were Sato and Vasiliejvs. I can't believe that Vasiliejvs gorgeous program with 4S (yeah, UR, fine) didn't blow Brown out of the water. Sato's placement is even funnier witn his 4Lz and F, no matter what they called on him.

but come on, Shaidorov got silver, Malinin got gold, things went well. I mean, it would have been too greedy to keep Japan off the podium completely. Obviously, would have been nice after Kagiyama's melt down, but they already padded him in SP hoping he could beat Malinin with his soft knees.
 
He is probably really thin in real life, too but he is also very tall - 195 cm / 6' 5" which makes him mostly likely the tallest male figure skater ever.
Don't laugh but a bunch of us try to keep track of such things...
 
I liked Nicholaj Memola's skate. Is he really as thin as he looks on TV, or is he just tall?

He is probably really thin in real life, too but he is also very tall - 195 cm / 6' 5" which makes him mostly likely the tallest male figure skater ever.
As someone who was in the arena, he is just as tall and thin as he looks on TV.

Here is a little funny comment about that.

Above the rink are giant TV screens so when the skater is on the opposite side of the rink, you can look up and see what they're doing clearly. Also, the skaters' names will appear when they first take the ice, as well as info like coaches, music, their SB scores for short and long, stuff like that.

After that disappears, we get to see a message from the skaters to the audience. It's usually something like 'thanks for the support' or "please enjoy my skating". Others use the opportunity to be funny. There were comments like "Hold my beer!" and from the Australian teams "aussie aussie aussie" which made the audience yell "Oi Oi Oi!"

When Memola took to the ice, his message to us was "Standing tall in my skates!"
 
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