I thought it should have been an underrotation, but for sure a q at a minimum. In fact, I question the competency and impartiality of the tech panel to not give this at least a q, and for the judges to give the combo mainly 2's and 3's.
2025 World Championships Women's Short Program
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Yah, I don't think Amber was worried about what happened before her (unless it was a standing O for 10 minutes - which it wasn't) I think she had the yips and falling on the 3 Axel just exacerbated what was already happening. I hope she can get it together for the free. It is anybody's medal at this point.
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No. Not me. Not ever.
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The only person crying here is you crying about other people's non-existent crying. What you know or don't is a) not up to me to somehow be able to smell or determine by reading your mind and b) doesn't interest me either, because in a public forum like this, you are never only responding to one person, and some other people might genuinely not know things like this.
Also, there are tons of tennis players who openly talk about (and are talked about) not liking certain surfaces and always playing worse on them. There's Federer and Rublev, who both have strong opinions about what surface is necessary for "real tennis" (spoiler, it's clay), Medvedev who threw a temper tantrum during a match and refused to finish it because it was on clay, calling it "a bad surface", Alexander "I hate clay." Bublik, who has by now accepted his fate, Djokovic inadvertently blaming the very bouncy surface at Indian Wells for his elimination. But sure, nobody whines, when they do it, it's constructive criticism, I guess.
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Amber’s mental game has been strong all year and she is a champion. Undefeated this year.
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Please do not remind me of that awful, awful day.
This is a sport. Both male and female skaters travel the world and skate on different types of ice and rink sizes. They adapt, and have their entire careers. This is not new. When it gets to the point where people become so desperate for certain skaters to win they invent conspiracy theories as to why they performed poorly, that qualifies as a problem. Your posting whatever it is you are going on about won't change that. Had there been a gaping hole in the ice that all the skaters were hitting or falling into, thus requiring a tow truck to pull them out, well, that would indeed be a different story then.
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No. I’ve seen her live. She is my favorite type of women’s skater - fast and powerful. The marks don’t make sense.For as long as I can remember, year after year, Wakaba has never received the PCS many of us thought she should be getting. This continues. I do not pretend to understand what the judges see (or don't see) that I can't. Maybe one has to see her live to make her marks make sense.
To me, although they have completely different styles, Higuchi is superior to Chiba in everything except spins. But that's just my opinion. But I think you would agree that Chiba should definitely not be scored 2 points higher in PCS than Wakaba.
As is common in skating, her PCS is a reflection of the support that her Fed gives her. She has never received the support of her Fed, going back to juniors.
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On the contrary, I’ve heard many skaters acknowledge that they can sense negative energy in the air skating immediately after a competitor who has a disastrous skate. Obviously, Amber heard Gubanova’s devastating score as well.
Honestly I think Alysa is focused on her own skating and perhaps her domestic rivals. This appears to have helped her mindset so much.
Amber on the other hand, went in as a huge favourite but then fell on her signature jump.
Really hope that Korea can keep their 3 spots with Jia Shin moving up next year. Poor Ahsun.
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I was in the arena and completely agree with the standings. There is an element when seeing a performance live that you just don’t get when watching on a screen. It’s a performance quality that I can only describe as connection with the audience, the music and the performance. Alysa had it in spades. Her joy radiated up to the rafters. She definitely deserves to be in first place. Mone was able to dance her way through Donna Summer’s iconic song and the crowd was 100% with her. These qualities are seen and felt by the judges as well. It can’t be ignored. Wakaba was wonderful and strong, but not quite at the level as the other two. It’s intangible, but so important.
I'm just going to echo some of what others have already said.
Chiba and Higuchi were underscored, and imo, should be first and second after the short. They were both wonderful today. Liu and Levito were both overscored. I'd probably have Liu and and Levito tied around 70/71. They both skated well, but they both should've had Qs on their combos, and neither skates with the same speed as Chiba/Higuchi. Kaori was scored about right given her mistake. Maybe she benefitted from some world champion PCS, but the program was excellent until the 2F. Amber fought hard, and I think her score is about right. The axel was UR, and there probably should've been a q on the toe.
Some of the others seemed a little high to me: Schizas, or very low: Samodelkina.
I'd have 1. Chiba 76~, 2. Higuchi 75~, 3&4. Levito and Liu 71~, 5. Sakamoto 70~ 6. Samodelkina 69~, 7. Schizas 68~, 8. Haein Lee 68~, 9. Pinzarrone 67~, 10. Glenn 67~. Hopefully the scoring will flesh itself out, and the best skaters in the free will win the medals.
Chiba and Higuchi were underscored, and imo, should be first and second after the short. They were both wonderful today. Liu and Levito were both overscored. I'd probably have Liu and and Levito tied around 70/71. They both skated well, but they both should've had Qs on their combos, and neither skates with the same speed as Chiba/Higuchi. Kaori was scored about right given her mistake. Maybe she benefitted from some world champion PCS, but the program was excellent until the 2F. Amber fought hard, and I think her score is about right. The axel was UR, and there probably should've been a q on the toe.
Some of the others seemed a little high to me: Schizas, or very low: Samodelkina.
I'd have 1. Chiba 76~, 2. Higuchi 75~, 3&4. Levito and Liu 71~, 5. Sakamoto 70~ 6. Samodelkina 69~, 7. Schizas 68~, 8. Haein Lee 68~, 9. Pinzarrone 67~, 10. Glenn 67~. Hopefully the scoring will flesh itself out, and the best skaters in the free will win the medals.
No worries, let's just ignore 40 years of what skaters and coaches actually say on camera. Have a good one.
It occurred to me that Boston 2025 would be the first international competition I’ve watched, whether live or on TV, since the 2018 Olympics. So this was actually my first time seeing the international field - with the exception of a couple of the Japanese skaters like Kaori Sakamoto - skate.
Anyway, Alysa Liu was awesome today and I’m glad she had a good skate. The joy was already apparent on TV at nationals but even more so live here in person. I recall she even did a cartwheel(!) during her intro. Levito was solid as well. Good to see after being sidelined with injury.
Unfortunate for Glenn, although I have to say sadly I’m not surprised at all. As soon as it was announced she was undefeated all year, and on home ice at the Worlds, I already had a bad feeling. That is a lot of pressure. The crowd was really pulling for her too.
This event feels both similar to and different from 2016 at the same time - competition-wise, I am getting strong 2016 vibes from how the SP turned out. Liu getting a very similar reception - a wild one - to what Gold got back then. And then the audience getting behind Glenn only for the energy to deflate once she fell.
Anyway, Alysa Liu was awesome today and I’m glad she had a good skate. The joy was already apparent on TV at nationals but even more so live here in person. I recall she even did a cartwheel(!) during her intro. Levito was solid as well. Good to see after being sidelined with injury.
Unfortunate for Glenn, although I have to say sadly I’m not surprised at all. As soon as it was announced she was undefeated all year, and on home ice at the Worlds, I already had a bad feeling. That is a lot of pressure. The crowd was really pulling for her too.
This event feels both similar to and different from 2016 at the same time - competition-wise, I am getting strong 2016 vibes from how the SP turned out. Liu getting a very similar reception - a wild one - to what Gold got back then. And then the audience getting behind Glenn only for the energy to deflate once she fell.
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