Replay Lounge 2026 Olympics | Women

[Arigato]

Y'all know you want more of the story. But you're going to have to beg me for the first date scene.

Is it necessary to be disrespectful to Alysa? She's 20, man. And she's not here to defend herself or tell you to cut it out. As for your earlier comment, "Alysa could do worse than fall in love and marry a billionaire's son" I find it hard to believe she'd simply sell herself out for a blank check in a suit.

 

[TontoK]

Is it necessary to be disrespectful to Alysa? She's 20, man. And she's not here to defend herself or tell you to cut it out. As for your earlier comment, "Alysa could do worse than fall in love and marry a billionaire's son" I find it hard to believe she'd simply sell herself out for a blank check in a suit.

I've said not one single disrespectful thing about Alysa. Not one. Nor would I. I'm having a little fun wasting the day away, making fun of a preposterous online rumor, centering on a topic I care nothing about in reality.

And I certainly don't think she would sell herself out. I said FALL IN LOVE. Are you policing who she can, or should, date? Does your fandom end if she dates someone you don't like?

 

[Arigato]

I've said not one single disrespectful thing about Alysa. Not one. Nor would I. I'm having a little fun wasting the day away, making fun of a preposterous online rumor, centering on a topic I care nothing about in reality.

Fun at whose expense? Hers.

 

[TontoK]

Fun at whose expense? Hers.

Not intentionally, and certainly not mean-spiritedly. But oddly you mentioned that she's only 20. He's only 19 and some of y'all act like he's the antichrist.

It's one of the reasons I said, only semi-jokingly, that I'd love this rumor to turn out to be true. The absolute hysteria that would generate would be incredible to watch.

 

[Mathman]

And no, free exposure doesn't pay the bills and musicians shouldn't be grateful that a figure skater or a dental office use their music without obtaining rights for it... just because it's free publicity..

But what artist wouldn't want their work associated with a root canal?

 

[CoyoteChris]

I think you should read a bit more about copyrights. Performers do not usually sue little kids. Publicity doesn't pay bills. Sarah Brightman is an extremely wealthy woman. It helps that in her former glory, people still bought records.
I do not like the misinformation that is so often shared on this board. Skaters need to get their musical selection cleared. Most performing artists are covered with licenses. It's very easy for skaters to obtain permission from these artists... the application used is called eloquently, Click and Clear. That says it all. In some exceptional cases, some artists are not attached to these blanket licensing agencies. Permission needs to be given. In such cases, it's relatively easy to obtain most of the times. The one time we heard about skaters being sued by some very minor culprits is definitely not the way things are going.... Look, we still got music at the Olympics... Everyone enjoyed it. It was fun ? Where are the problems ? I think it's time that the discourse changes here : skaters are responsible to obtain rights for the music they want to use.. in 95% (If not more) of the cases, it's a piece of cake.... and everyone is happy. And no, free exposure doesn't pay the bills and musicians shouldn't be grateful that a figure skater or a dental office use their music without obtaining rights for it... just because it's free publicity..

I am not a lawyer or music expert, but I am old. Dont know if its true but I heard during the olys that even if an artist has given their music to an entitiy to "sell" they can still negate the deal on a case by case basis. And this has happened....maybe not in skating but still. Not gonna get political but it was over politics.
In the 1950s and 60s, due to the technology of the time, Disc jockies were paid under the table to play an artist's song for exposure.
IIRC, it was called "Payola". People would hear the song and go buy a 45 rpm disc.
I do know Celtic Woman and Sarah and Hayley Westenra made a whole bunch of sales due to letting PBS make money so to speak playing their specials.
What bothers me, if it is true, is the above discrimination.
If skater X buys the tune, I am not sure on how that all plays out as far as the difference to using that tune to skate to vs broadcast and streaming rights, but if the originator of the music then can say, "Oh no, I dont want THAT person using my music", thats discrimination. It is no different than If I want to buy a product at a store and the store says, "Oh no, you cant buy that product cause you are Austro-Hungarian."
I Dont know the mechanics of what Sarah did for Kaori, up front or behind the scenes, but Sarah is very popular in Japan.

 

[TontoK]

I do know Celtic Woman and Sarah and Hayley Westenra made a whole bunch of sales due to letting PBS make money so to speak playing their specials.
What bothers me, if it is true, is the above discrimination.

I Dont know the mechanics of what Sarah did for Kaori, up front or behind the scenes, but Sarah is very popular in Japan.

When Ilia picked that SP music last season, I guess it generated publicity for the group, and they made a ton of money. And if that were true for everyone, then I guess I see how actively "teaming" would be useful. I can't imagine a musical artist rebuffing a skater like Ilia or Kaori now, because surely the KNOW the benefits of publicity.

But how about the non-megastar skaters? I don't think they'd get the same deal.

 

[CoyoteChris]

But what artist wouldn't want their work associated with a root canal?

It is interesting as to what a music service that plays elevator music has to go through to use Tiny Tim's "Tiptoe through the Tulips. " for 10 years.

Anyone who believes exposure doesnt make money better reconsider. (Sarah has done two Olympics)
Television specials on PBS were produced for nearly every Brightman album in the US; a director of marketing has credited these as her number-one source of exposure in the country. Her concert for Eden was among PBS's highest-grossing pledge events.
In 1997, Brightman released the album Timeless/Time to Say Goodbye. It remains as Brightman's biggest-selling album. It went gold, platinum and/or multi-platinum in 21 countries, selling over 1.4 million copies in the US, and topped the Billboard Top Classical Crossover Albums chart in the US for 35 weeks.
I dont think I would have ever known much about Celtic Woman , who I have seen 3 times, Hayley Westernra or Sarah without PBS.

 

[Arigato]

Not intentionally, and certainly not mean-spiritedly. But oddly you mentioned that she's only 20. He's only 19 and some of y'all act like he's the antichrist.

It's one of the reasons I said, only semi-jokingly, that I'd love this rumor to turn out to be true. The absolute hysteria that would generate would be incredible to watch.

Some of ya'll act like he is the antichrist? Who he? Anyone ever tell you that you generalize a bit much before checking who you are actually conversing with? Look, have your fun. I don't care. But for chrissake, both Amber and Alysa are being dragged all over that online sewer for all the wrong reasons that have nothing to do with what was actually accomplished or in many cases, even related to the sport.

Use a name that's really sexy for your future AI matchmaking with a billionaire's son: Gertrude or Ethel.

 

[4everchan]

But what artist wouldn't want their work associated with a root canal?

Funny.

However the things I read on this thread are very dubious.

People hear things. People assume things. People write things as facts. Yet , they actually don't provide sources or facts.

I'll see myself out..

 

[Arigato]

And no, free exposure doesn't pay the bills and musicians shouldn't be grateful that a figure skater or a dental office use their music without obtaining rights for it... just because it's free publicity..

I think Paul McCartney could use some free exposure. That man is in dire need.

 

[CoyoteChris]

When Ilia picked that SP music last season, I guess it generated publicity for the group, and they made a ton of money. And if that were true for everyone, then I guess I see how actively "teaming" would be useful. I can't imagine a musical artist rebuffing a skater like Ilia or Kaori now, because surely the KNOW the benefits of publicity.

But how about the non-megastar skaters? I don't think they'd get the same deal.

I would guess not. I would hope that any skater would get a fair deal..the same as everyone else. If Haruna MURAKAMI wants to skate to "Titanic" she should not be discriminated against for any reason. If someone likes her, and wants to let her use their music for free by giving her a "rebate" if you will in the form of a grant to her skating program, I have no problem with that. Its people who forbid the use of their music that they have legally purchased that I have an issue with. For the sake of argument, if Sarah heard that Kaori was buying her music, or had bought her music, and called up the JSF and said, "How may I contact Kaori and thank her and send her a gift for her skating program?" and that happens and Kaori thanks her publicly and gets 37,000 likes and over 300 replys, that is fine with me. By the way, there is a ripple effect on IG. If you go to #Sarahbrightman you will see pics of other skaters, like R and R, and Sarah Everhart.

 

[gmyers]

I think the idea is that some political movements are more divisive and harmful than others, that some periods in a nation's political history are more fraught with danger to a country's well-being than others, and that some fundamental principles rise above politics and are worth upholding regardless of whatever partisan winds are blowing.

If we disagree on anything My opinions are right and unifying yours are wrong and divisive! Lol!!

 

[CoyoteChris]

Funny.

However the things I read on this thread are very dubious.

People hear things. People assume things. People write things as facts. Yet , they actually don't provide sources or facts.

I'll see myself out..

The actual in real world answer is murkey. Music artists can legally refuse permission for others to use their copyrighted music in most contexts, such as movies, advertisements, or covers, as they hold exclusive rights to reproduction, distribution, and public performance. While artists can prohibit specific uses via cease-and-desist letters, they sometimes struggle to stop use at public venues (like political rallies) due to "blanket licenses" from performing rights organizations (PROs)

But, as we have all seen, youtube does not hesitate to take down music /and or video. Its just easier than hiring lawyers.

 

[TontoK]

I would guess not. I would hope that any skater would get a fair deal..the same as everyone else. If Haruna MURAKAMI wants to skate to "Titanic" she should not be discriminated against for any reason. If someone likes her, and wants to let her use their music for free by giving her a "rebate" if you will in the form of a grant to her skating program, I have no problem with that. Its people who forbid the use of their music that they have legally purchased that I have an issue with. For the sake of argument, if Sarah heard that Kaori was buying her music, or had bought her music, and called up the JSF and said, "How may I contact Kaori and thank her and send her a gift for her skating program?" and that happens and Kaori thanks her publicly and gets 37,000 likes and over 300 replys, that is fine with me. By the way, there is a ripple effect on IG. If you go to #Sarahbrightman you will see pics of other skaters, like R and R, and Sarah Everhart.

I really don't understand how things work. Can't ANYBODY buy the music? And isn't it the same price for everyone?

In my earlier post about Ilia I assume he bought the music rights same as anyone else could, but then the band smartly tagged on to things for their own exposure. Is that not how things played out? Was he just given the song by the artist in return for whatever publicity he generated?

 

[skatedreamer]

Yeah, normally I don't fault kids for their parents' beliefs because mine were conservative evangelicals, but Baron was heavily involved in his dad's third campaign so their beliefs probably align closely. I can't even imagine where Alysa and Baron would cross paths though.

Agreed...and I'm very sorry if I touched a nerve.

 

[TontoK]

Some of ya'll act like he is the antichrist? Who he? Anyone ever tell you that you generalize a bit much before checking who you are actually conversing with? Look, have your fun. I don't care. But for chrissake, both Amber and Alysa are being dragged all over that online sewer for all the wrong reasons that have nothing to do with what was actually accomplished or in many cases, even related to the sport.

Use a name that's really sexy for your future AI matchmaking with a billionaire's son: Gertrude or Ethel.

Fair points. I've had my fun, and it's the end of the day, so I finally hope/pray/expect I'll get my answer on my work issue soon.

Filling my day with mindless tasks waiting for an email notification is not a fate I'd wish on anyone. I'm exhausted, and I've literally not accomplished a thing today.

 

[4everchan]

The actual in real world answer is murkey. Music artists can legally refuse permission for others to use their copyrighted music in most contexts, such as movies, advertisements, or covers, as they hold exclusive rights to reproduction, distribution, and public performance. While artists can prohibit specific uses via cease-and-desist letters, they sometimes struggle to stop use at public venues (like political rallies) due to "blanket licenses" from performing rights organizations (PROs)

But, as we have all seen, youtube does not hesitate to take down music /and or video. Its just easier than hiring lawyers.

Copyrights laws are different per countries. They also vary depending on usage.

Using a song in a movie is not the same as in a dental office or but a figure skater. Commercial use is a different animal.

 

[TallyT]

Yes, I'm currently in Australia and I can assure you I've seen zero hate or controversy regarding Amber from Australians.

I agree, simply because for hate and controversy we do sort of need to have even the foggiest inkling that the hated and controversial even exist, and for the vast majority of Australians Amber Glenn is simply a 'who?" Not even a blip on the radar. Nor is Alysa or the rest of them, or for that matter 99.99999% of Winter Olympians including our own and yes, even our own that got medals.

 

[TallyT]

When Ilia picked that SP music last season, I guess it generated publicity for the group, and they made a ton of money.

They didn't. Ilia may be very popular for a figure skater, but he is nowhere near that level of exposure.