A fair way to pick GPF finalists?

[chuckm]

We won't know for sure until after NHK.

Since Volosozhar / Trankov have withdrawn from NHK, that leaves a spot open for Pairs as well.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Id be ok with either way tbh, if they just said what you just wrote or if they said "We decided we will wait for two more competition to decide what we will do with TEB skaters", so people know what is going on.
The silence is the worst thing they can do.

Agreed.... it's completely understandable if they want to wait two more competitions - and in fact, I think they should. But indeed, they need to TELL people this is what they're doing.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

My understanding is that Gracie gets a place at GPF on the basis of her silver at SA and gold at TEB. The extra spot to be decided between those who after the TEB results accepted as final are out of GPF, ie Liza?

This "extra" spot from TEB seems to blatantly favour Liza (though one imagines she probably would have done enough to pull up onto the podium).

I wonder what would happen if Hongo placed 4th at Rostelecom... it might not give her enough GP points (2nd + 4th) to make the GPF, but it would still be more GP points than Tuktamysheva, who could get into the final based on this "extra spot".

 

[mrrice]

Chan might make it on his own, with the extra spot going to Aaron.

This would be dream come true. Speaking of dreams coming true. Does anyone know how my Josh is feeling?

 

[paperhearts]

It seems like Liza will be getting in the GPF unless Roberta gets 3rd at CoR if the rule means that any skater that finishes outside the top 6 (with the most points) that was at TEB will be will get the 7th spot at GPF. Out of the 4 above her at TEB who could take the special spot, Gold has qualified, Lipnitskaia is out, and Murakami is out. If Rodeghiero places 1st or 2nd at CoR, she will get into GPF normally, thus the spot will be Liza's. If Rodeghiero places 3rd, however, she willbeat Liza for the spot. Only these four could've taken the spot from her, and it seems like it's all come down to Rodeghiero if Liza will go on to GPF or not.

For Chan, it seems like he will qualify based on his result. Murakami would probably get the special spot with 22 points (3+3) then Aaron is out with 19 points (1+7).

Is my Math right? (EDIT: It wasn't the first time, haha. Thank you to Sjs5572 for the correction re: Liza's places and Roberta's chances.)

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

I think this is a reasonable compromise. It's tough luck for Max but his SP placement was going to make it hard for him to pull up since he would have not skated in the last group.

 

[mrrice]

Agreed.... it's completely understandable if they want to wait two more competitions - and in fact, I think they should. But indeed, they need to TELL people this is what they're doing.

Exactly!!!! I have absolutely no problem with waiting, or even adding 4 skaters and taking the top ten. Even adding 6 skaters and having two flight's.

Just "Don't leave me hangin' on the promises, you've got to me know" If you know where that line came from........Please tell me.

 

[Tutto]

Exactly!!!! I have absolutely no problem with waiting, or even adding 4 skaters and taking the top ten. Even adding 6 skaters and having two flight's.

Just "Don't leave me hangin' on the promises, you've got to me know" If you know where that line came from........Please tell me.

On the bright side further suspense means more intrigue, speculations, excitement then ever! Enjoy it!

 

[alexg]

Chan might make it on his own, with the extra spot going to Aaron.

It would go to Murakami first.

 

[Sjs5572]

It seems like Liza will be getting in the GPF whatever happens if the rule means that any skater that finishes outside the top 6 (with the most points) that was at TEB will be will get the 7th spot at GPF. Out of the 4 above her at TEB who could take the special spot, Gold has qualified, Lipnitskaia is out, and Murakami is out. If Rodeghiero places 1st or 2nd at CoR, she will get into GPF normally, thus the spot will be Liza's. If Rodeghiero places 3rd, Liza will be favored by the tie-breaker and will get the special spot over Rodeghiero. Only these four could've taken the spot from her.

For Chan, it seems like he will qualify based on his result. Murakami would probably get the special spot with 22 points (3+3) then Aaron is out with 19 points (1+7).

Is my Math right?

If Rodeghiero gets 3rd at COR, she will have 22 points and Liza will have 20; so Rodeghiero will get wildcard unless she qualifies outright.

 

[paperhearts]

If Rodeghiero gets 3rd at COR, she will have 22 points and Liza will have 20; so Rodeghiero will get wildcard unless she qualifies outright.

I thought Liza would also get 22, with a win (15 pts) and 5th (7 pts)? (I based the point count from here.)

 

[Sjs5572]

I thought Liza would also get 22, with a win (15 pts) and 5th (7 pts)? (I based it from here.)

Liza did not get a win; she lost to Ashley at Skate Canada.

 

[paperhearts]

Lisa did not get a win; she lost to Ashley at Skate Canada.

Oh my, how could I overlook that. Thank you for the correction! I'll change my post to reflect what you said. So it all comes down to Roberta; who would've predicted?

 

[Sjs5572]

Oh my, how could I overlook that. Thank you for the correction! I'll change my post to reflect what you said. So it all comes down to Roberta; who would've predicted?

I would love Roberta to get the bronze at COR and throw the ISU and Russian Fed into a fit. Ahem, I think her PCS might be in the toilet at COR....

 

[paperhearts]

I would love Roberta to get the bronze at COR and throw the ISU and Russian Fed into a fit. Ahem, I think her PCS might be in the toilet at COR....

I'd love to see her grab that bronze! Then we'd get a new report that apparently the ISU has decided on +2 skaters instead of +1. Re: her PCS though; yes, I agree... Ah well, one can dream, right?

 

[Sjs5572]

I'd love to see her grab that bronze! Then we'd get a new report that apparently the ISU has decided on +2 skaters instead of +1. Re: her PCS though; yes, I agree... Ah well, one can dream, right?

I know I'm being cynical, but maybe that's why no official announcement yet....to determine whether COR results "will work" for ISU and the Feds.

 

[paperhearts]

I know I'm being cynical, but maybe that's why no official announcement yet....to determine whether COR results "will work" for ISU and the Feds.

Wouldn't be out of character for the ISU, I guess. We'll know if Roberta gets bronze then a sudden ISU announcement for +2 skaters from TEB goes out, hahaha...

 

[leafygreens]

I loved seeing Roberta do so well at TEB but realistically, the field is so deep at COR. Seven of the skaters have all had PB's higher than Roberta's PB for the SP.

 

[Sjs5572]

I loved seeing Roberta do so well at TEB but realistically, the field is so deep at COR. Seven of the skaters have all had PB's higher than Roberta's PB for the SP.

Yep....at least we can dream until the sp group 2 starts!

 

[Mathman]

It would go to Murakami first.

Have they announced the basis on which the winner of the extra spot will be chosen? The whole point of the extra spot is to give a break to those skaters who did the best in their other event, and thus would surely have made the final with a decent LP at TEB. This criterion would put Aaron at the top of the list (along with Chan).

The placements in the SP at TEB might not count in determining the charity spot.