Bad move!!!!

[blue dog]

These are more choreographic moves, rather than "moves" but:

I hate that horrid head-bobbing thing that Mira Leung does in her SP, that Tonya Harding used to do quite frequently. I understand both are using jazzy/high energy numbers, but other moves could be emphasized, rather than standing there in the beginning of a program, bobbing one's head.

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This is an actual move:

What is that new upright spin variation where the knee is turned in, and the foot is turned out (they look bow-legged). Check it out in Sebestyen's LP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNe1aWpMKMs

I've seen a lot of skaters use that variation, and sometimes, I think they can't control the torque of the spin, and the free leg starts flying uncontrollably--plus it looks ugly!

 

[Spun Silver]

You mean that thing right at the end? You're right - very weird. I haven't noticed it before - I guess I assumed it was transitional, but here she is doing special chinoise arm gestures so it is clearly its own thing.

OTOH, she has a very nice donut spin - doesn't drop the knee before catching the foot.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I also hate the death spirals everyone is doing this year, with the hand changing and the free leg up. Ugly is not bad enough. It's horrendous! The first time I saw it was when Shen and Zhao competed for this first time in GP this season and I thought it was a mistake.

As much as I love Shen and Zhao, ITA with this. Whatever happened to the beautiful, low death spirals with the arched backs?

I can't stand the dance spins that are required now. They look like bastardized pair spins.

 

[gio]

The crotch showing fan spiral

That move was way overused at Euros this year. But few skaters did it in the right way.

 

[scorekeeper]

OTOH, she has a very nice donut spin - doesn't drop the knee before catching the foot.

Yes, that dropped knee always looks awful.

 

[BravesSkateFan]

I can't stand those fugly dance spins with the lady hiking her blade to her head...even worse is that they always have thier skating leg extremely bent, its a very jagged un-elegant position...an example

Death spirals where the lady sticks out her butt to get inot position (T/M were big offenders in this catergory)

 

[scorekeeper]

Possibly the most vulgar dance lift from the 2005 Worlds:

They come out of a twizzle turn sequence facing each other. She jumps on him as he goes into a bent-leg spread eagle, hooking her legs over his thighs. She then arches backwards until her head is pointing towards the ice, reaching back between his legs to grab her ankles. She holds this pose for a second or two, then lets go of her ankles, they grab each other's wrists, and she straightens her legs up behind his shoulders so that he's holding her upside-down with her pelvis thrust out.

 

[gio]

Moves that I don't like

-unaesthetical spins and spirals that are rewarded by COP
-too much arms moving during a step sequence

I also don't understand what is so exciting when a skater change edges in a spin.

 

[blue dog]

Moves that I don't like

-unaesthetical spins and spirals that are rewarded by COP
-too much arms moving during a step sequence

I also don't understand what is so exciting when a skater change edges in a spin.

The edge change makes it a bit more difficult for a skater. However, I think what Michelle did, and what the late John Curry used to do, change foot in the opposite direction (most skaters change foot and remain in the natural direction) is far more difficult than a change edge within the spin.

The COP should award points for skaters who spin in the "classic" position in the opposite direction.

 

[R.D.]

This isn't really a move, but FAKE EMOTING has got to go. the movement of arms or "pained" facial expressions to attempt to convey "feeling"...just doesn't work. You either got it or you don't. If one is not a natural at it, it looks contrived and fake and it does get annoying after a while.

 

[blue dog]

This isn't really a move, but FAKE EMOTING has got to go. the movement of arms or "pained" facial expressions to attempt to convey "feeling"...just doesn't work. You either got it or you don't. If one is not a natural at it, it looks contrived and fake and it does get annoying after a while.

The Irina head-grab from 2002...

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

The Irina head-grab from 2002...

Poor Irina with that head confusion. She was doing a literal interpretation of Tosca who only lived for art and love and could not understand how she got into this mess.

Joe

 

[silver.blades]

Spiral sequances drive me crazy, very few women can do a decent one. It's painful to watch some skaters try to get their leg up.
Death spirals where the man changes his pivot to an inside. Compleatly ruins the move.
Any dance lift that involves the womans legs around the man's neck, it dosn't get any worse then that, I don't care how difficult it is, they need to stop.

 

[silver.blades]

I also don't understand what is so exciting when a skater change edges in a spin.

not so much that it's exciting, but it's alot of fun to flip the edge when spinning.

 

[orchid]

OT, but compare the edges of these two lovely skaters.

And arm position and fingers and back and .......

 

[orchid]

Re: the Death Spiral, I understand there no higher credit given to this move when the lady arches so to have her hair close to the ice. Remember Barb Underhill ?

Such a shame, now the move is a toss-away.

 

[evenstar]

Airplane arms. No names, of course!

 

[SeaniBu]

Airplane arms. No names, of course!

Now I have to ask, a spiral position, does that not look like a big airplane? Really, if you think that way, you could be imagineing that the skater is saying to themselves "zooooom zooom, aerrrrrrr, puc puc puc pow! eeeeerooow.

I think Kimmie can work on HOW the arms and hands are out - as well as others. But you all are making me think of little kids running around the playground with their arms out JUST LIKE a spiral minus the leg.

 

[blue dog]

I don't know what she is doing, but in her spiral sequence, she does an almost forward version of the fan spiral, with the same "peeing on something" look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDhIMoz1j1c

Not to mention, at the very end, she raises her skirt as if to say,...I don't know what she's saying, but it doesn't add anything to the program :chorus:

 

[Kasey]

I don't know what she is doing, but in her spiral sequence, she does an almost forward version of the fan spiral, with the same "peeing on something" look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDhIMoz1j1c

Watching this made me very happy that HOLDING the spiral positions is something the CoP has reinforced...I think she may have had 3 seconds total in her three spiral positions, and it all looked very rushed and forced.

I'm just a firm believer that if you can't do a move in a way that it looks good (B-mann, catchfoot, donut, spirals, etc) DON'T do it!