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I think they have a good chance of landing in the top four! Best of luck to them.
Camille Kovalev & Pavel Kovalev
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Four? I thought it was five.
Drat! If I had realised that, I would have taken a different approach to my Pairs Predictions. But, it is too late at night to change them now. It's an early start tomorrow, so I need to get to bed.
CaroLiza_fan
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Its actually just three, but the UZB team has split, so the spot they earned at Worlds will likely become available later this year.Four? I thought it was five.
Drat! If I had realised that, I would have taken a different approach to my Pairs Predictions. But, it is too late at night to change them now. It's an early start tomorrow, so I need to get to bed.
CaroLiza_fan
It is top 3 for pairs, top 4 for ice dance and top 5 for each singles discipline. If the Kovalev's skate like they did a the French Masters then they will qualify. If they don't, they will open the door to other pairs.Four? I thought it was five.
Drat! If I had realised that, I would have taken a different approach to my Pairs Predictions. But, it is too late at night to change them now. It's an early start tomorrow, so I need to get to bed.
CaroLiza_fan
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Thank you both for the explanations.
Maybe it is because of the way it is in the Predictions Game, but I just assumed that it was the Top 5 in every category going through.
This whole qualifying process is too complicated. It confuses me every time.
Just do it like Worlds! Much simpler.
(Don't worry, I know why it isn't done like that. The IOC is trying to keep down the number of people that they have to provide accomodation etc. for).
CaroLiza_fan
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I thought Camille and Pavel did really well in the SP. I'm happy to see them in a good placement.
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Skate To Milano Senior Pairs SP: Results; Protocols
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ58qdKEzrM
Camille and Pavel finished 2nd out of 11 in the SP, with a score of 64.28.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread during the Warm-Up:
Here is what I wrote when they were being introduced:
And here is what I wrote about the programme:
There were quite a few comments during the Warm-Up from other members. The first came from my friend in Australia, @anonymoose_au:
The next came from my good friend in Sicily, @elektra blue:
Then came a comment from my fellow British member, @FlossieH:
And a longer comment from avid Pairs fan @BlissfulSynergy:
To which German member @DemTuppesSeine replied:
To which I replied:
And @FlossieH also replied to @BlissfulSynergy's comment with:
Fast forward to when they were beng introduced, and @lileychristie in Australia posted:
After they finished, @DemTuppesSeine commented:
And @elektra blue said something similar:
@EdgeCall was straight to the point:
@FlossieH commented:
Czech member @flanker added:
@DemTuppesSeine came back again to add:
I hope she enjoys herself there!
Norwegian member @norwegianfairytale commented:
And @lileychristie agreed:
And to finish up, German member @Jumping_Bean was doing Play-By-Plays:
Camille and Pavel are currently 2.40 points behind 1st position, ZHANG Jiaxuan / HUANG Yihang (CHN), and 0.43 points ahead of 3rd position, Karina AKOPOVA / Nikita RAKHMANIN (ARM). Camille and Pavel are at the head of a group of 3 partnerships covered by 1.6 points, stretching down to Yuna NAGAOKA / Sumitada MORIGUCHI (JPN) in 4th position.
There is a chance that Camille and Pavel could win the title. However, they have two partnerships breathing down their neck. At the moment, there are definitely three slots at the Olympics up for grabs. It could become four, but that is not guaranteed. So the priority for Camille and Pavel has to be to stay in a podium position. And to make sure of that, they need to have a good Free Skate.
So, let's hope that they do!
WELL DONE!!!
The Senior Pairs FS is due to start at 14:30:00 CST (06:30:00 GMT / 07:30:00 BST / 08:30:00 CEST / 09:30:00 MSK). So 10 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 10th and penultimate partnership to start. So, third and penultimate partnership to go in Group 3.
The Group 3 Warm-Up is due to start at 15:53:40 CST (07:53:40 GMT / 08:53:40 BST / 09:53:40 CEST / 10:53:40 MSK). So 11h 23m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 16:16:30 CST (08:16:30 GMT / 09:16:30 BST / 10:16:30 CEST / 11:16:30 MSK). So 11h 46m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1095
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ58qdKEzrM
Camille and Pavel finished 2nd out of 11 in the SP, with a score of 64.28.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread during the Warm-Up:
I just knew Cami and Pavel would do something funny coming into the arena. 
They came out together, and then she continued walking, while he stopped, gave her a 3 second headstart, and then started running. And caught up with her just before she reached the gate.
How do you run in skates?!
Oooh nice costumes. Particularly Camille's dress.
Lovely throw when the cameras started to focus on them.
Mark telling us a story. They arrived later than planned because somebody took ill on their flight. I hope that person is OK.
But, not ideal for Camille and Pavel.
The next time the...
They came out together, and then she continued walking, while he stopped, gave her a 3 second headstart, and then started running. And caught up with her just before she reached the gate.
How do you run in skates?!
Oooh nice costumes. Particularly Camille's dress.
Lovely throw when the cameras started to focus on them.
Mark telling us a story. They arrived later than planned because somebody took ill on their flight. I hope that person is OK.
But, not ideal for Camille and Pavel.
The next time the...
Here is what I wrote when they were being introduced:
Now for my second set of kids in this competition.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
And here is what I wrote about the programme:
There were quite a few comments during the Warm-Up from other members. The first came from my friend in Australia, @anonymoose_au:
The next came from my good friend in Sicily, @elektra blue:
Then came a comment from my fellow British member, @FlossieH:
And a longer comment from avid Pairs fan @BlissfulSynergy:
To which German member @DemTuppesSeine replied:
To which I replied:
And @FlossieH also replied to @BlissfulSynergy's comment with:
Fast forward to when they were beng introduced, and @lileychristie in Australia posted:
After they finished, @DemTuppesSeine commented:
And @elektra blue said something similar:
@EdgeCall was straight to the point:
Beautiful! 
@FlossieH commented:
Czech member @flanker added:
@DemTuppesSeine came back again to add:
I can't wait to take photos of that program in Angers 
I hope she enjoys herself there!
Norwegian member @norwegianfairytale commented:
And @lileychristie agreed:
That was great from the Kovalevs Great to see that they've recovered well after their injuries last season.
This program suits them very well, and very French
Great to see that they've recovered well after their injuries last season.This program suits them very well, and very French
And to finish up, German member @Jumping_Bean was doing Play-By-Plays:
Camille and Pavel are currently 2.40 points behind 1st position, ZHANG Jiaxuan / HUANG Yihang (CHN), and 0.43 points ahead of 3rd position, Karina AKOPOVA / Nikita RAKHMANIN (ARM). Camille and Pavel are at the head of a group of 3 partnerships covered by 1.6 points, stretching down to Yuna NAGAOKA / Sumitada MORIGUCHI (JPN) in 4th position.
There is a chance that Camille and Pavel could win the title. However, they have two partnerships breathing down their neck. At the moment, there are definitely three slots at the Olympics up for grabs. It could become four, but that is not guaranteed. So the priority for Camille and Pavel has to be to stay in a podium position. And to make sure of that, they need to have a good Free Skate.
So, let's hope that they do!
WELL DONE!!! The Senior Pairs FS is due to start at 14:30:00 CST (06:30:00 GMT / 07:30:00 BST / 08:30:00 CEST / 09:30:00 MSK). So 10 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 10th and penultimate partnership to start. So, third and penultimate partnership to go in Group 3.
The Group 3 Warm-Up is due to start at 15:53:40 CST (07:53:40 GMT / 08:53:40 BST / 09:53:40 CEST / 10:53:40 MSK). So 11h 23m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 16:16:30 CST (08:16:30 GMT / 09:16:30 BST / 10:16:30 CEST / 11:16:30 MSK). So 11h 46m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1095
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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Skate To Milano Senior Pairs FS: Results; Protocols
Skate To Milano Senior Pairs: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BVPlX5CjQs
Camille and Pavel finished 5th out of 11 in the FS, with a score of 107.30. This meant that they dropped to 4th position overall, with a score of 171.58.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread during the Warm-Up:
Here is what I wrote when they were being introduced:
And here is what I wrote about the programme:
Shortly after they started, my fellow British member @FlossieH noticed something that I didn't notice:
To which Russian member @AlexBreeze replied:
After the mistakes started, @EdgeCall commented:
Whereas my good friend in Sicily, @elektra blue, was looking on the positive side:
Our resident video archive list compiler, @labgoat, was being positive while pointing out the irony of the fall:
@Isk pointed out something that I had never realised:
I knew I wasn't imagining things! I knew I had heard that series of notes somewhere long before "Seven Nation Army" was released, but couldn't work out where! So thank you for pointing this out!
Getting back to the topic at hand, and @FlossieH came back to comment:
And my fellow Irish member @3T3T agreed with the latter part:
To which @FlossieH replied:
Czech member @flanker summed everything up well:
@auser was looking on the bright side:
As was @skylark:
German member @Jumping_Bean was doing Play-By-Plays:
When waiting for the scores to be announced, @labgoat commented:
Camille and Pavel finished the Free Skate 4.94 points behind 4th position, Sofiia HOLICHENKO / Artem DARENSKYI (UKR), and 2.63 points ahead of 6th position, Audrey SHIN / Balázs NAGY (USA).
Overall, Camille and Pavel finished 7.08 points behind 3rd position, Yuna NAGAOKA / Sumitada MORIGUCHI (JPN), and 2.17 points ahead of 5th position, Holichenko / Darenskyi.
As it stands, they didn't qualify. However, there are still question marks over whether Uzbekistan will be able to use the slot that they earned at Senior Worlds last season, because there are rumours that Ekaterina Geynish / Dmitrii Chigirev have split. If they hand the slot back, France will be the first in line to step in and claim it.
Whatever happens, Camille and Pavel put on a very strong showing in the Olympic Qualifying Event, with only one mistake between the two programmes. How often have we been able to say something like that in the past few seasons?
From what I have seen so far, this is shaping up to be a very good season for them. They won't need the Olympics to make their presence known.
WELL DONE!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Skate To Milano Senior Pairs: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BVPlX5CjQs
Camille and Pavel finished 5th out of 11 in the FS, with a score of 107.30. This meant that they dropped to 4th position overall, with a score of 171.58.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread during the Warm-Up:
Here is what I wrote when they were being introduced:
And now for my second set of kids.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
And here is what I wrote about the programme:
Nice start, both in terms of music and choreography. 
Beautiful Triple Twist to start.
Ah, it's that rock cover of "Come Together".
Double Salchow beautiful too.
Camille fall on Triple Toe. So no combination.
Axel Lasso lift good. And so was Death Spiral.
I liked that we stop and pose.
Sorry, I was concentratung too much on working out if I kew the second song to comment. But, what they were doing during it was good.
Everything during "7 Nation Army" was good too.
I like the ending pose!
They don't seem thrilled coming off the ice. Camille thinks she's blown it for them.
Big...
Beautiful Triple Twist to start.
Ah, it's that rock cover of "Come Together".
Double Salchow beautiful too.
Camille fall on Triple Toe. So no combination.
Axel Lasso lift good. And so was Death Spiral.
I liked that we stop and pose.
Sorry, I was concentratung too much on working out if I kew the second song to comment. But, what they were doing during it was good.
Everything during "7 Nation Army" was good too.
I like the ending pose!
They don't seem thrilled coming off the ice. Camille thinks she's blown it for them.
Big...
Shortly after they started, my fellow British member @FlossieH noticed something that I didn't notice:
To which Russian member @AlexBreeze replied:
After the mistakes started, @EdgeCall commented:
Oh dear. Looks like the French have opened the door for the Japanese. 
Whereas my good friend in Sicily, @elektra blue, was looking on the positive side:
Our resident video archive list compiler, @labgoat, was being positive while pointing out the irony of the fall:
@Isk pointed out something that I had never realised:
Bruckner's 5th symphony, aka White Stripes. 
They gave a chance to the Japanese.
They gave a chance to the Japanese.I knew I wasn't imagining things! I knew I had heard that series of notes somewhere long before "Seven Nation Army" was released, but couldn't work out where! So thank you for pointing this out!
Getting back to the topic at hand, and @FlossieH came back to comment:
And my fellow Irish member @3T3T agreed with the latter part:
To which @FlossieH replied:
Czech member @flanker summed everything up well:
@auser was looking on the bright side:
As was @skylark:
German member @Jumping_Bean was doing Play-By-Plays:
When waiting for the scores to be announced, @labgoat commented:
Camille and Pavel finished the Free Skate 4.94 points behind 4th position, Sofiia HOLICHENKO / Artem DARENSKYI (UKR), and 2.63 points ahead of 6th position, Audrey SHIN / Balázs NAGY (USA).
Overall, Camille and Pavel finished 7.08 points behind 3rd position, Yuna NAGAOKA / Sumitada MORIGUCHI (JPN), and 2.17 points ahead of 5th position, Holichenko / Darenskyi.
As it stands, they didn't qualify. However, there are still question marks over whether Uzbekistan will be able to use the slot that they earned at Senior Worlds last season, because there are rumours that Ekaterina Geynish / Dmitrii Chigirev have split. If they hand the slot back, France will be the first in line to step in and claim it.
Whatever happens, Camille and Pavel put on a very strong showing in the Olympic Qualifying Event, with only one mistake between the two programmes. How often have we been able to say something like that in the past few seasons?
From what I have seen so far, this is shaping up to be a very good season for them. They won't need the Olympics to make their presence known.
WELL DONE!!! CaroLiza_fan
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The Senior GP Series kicks off today, and Camille and Pavel will be part of the opening day's action at their home rink in Angers, France.
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start at 19:50:00 CEST (17:50:00 GMT / 18:50:00 BST / 20:50:00 MSK). So 12 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 5th partnership to start. So, first partnership to go in Group 2.
The Group 2 Warm-Up is due to start at 20:22:10 CEST (18:22:10 GMT / 19:22:10 BST / 21:22:10 MSK). So 12h 32m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 20:29:40 CEST (18:29:40 GMT / 19:29:40 BST / 21:29:40 MSK). So 12h 39m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1054
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start at 19:50:00 CEST (17:50:00 GMT / 18:50:00 BST / 20:50:00 MSK). So 12 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 5th partnership to start. So, first partnership to go in Group 2.
The Group 2 Warm-Up is due to start at 20:22:10 CEST (18:22:10 GMT / 19:22:10 BST / 21:22:10 MSK). So 12h 32m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 20:29:40 CEST (18:29:40 GMT / 19:29:40 BST / 21:29:40 MSK). So 12h 39m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1054
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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Trophée De France Senior Pairs SP: Results; Protocols
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwMgWnsGpvw
Camille and Pavel finished 6th out of 8 in the SP, with a score of 59.00.
Unfortunately, due to it watching the Formula 1 Free Practice 1 from Texas, I wasn't able to watch the Pairs SP LIVE. However, I have now watched Camille and Pavel's bits on the archived livestream, so here is the sort of comment I would have written about the Warm-Up if I had been watching LIVE:
And here is the sort of comment I would have written about the programme if I had been watching LIVE:
Sorry for writing so much about the TV coverage, but I wasn't the only one that didn't appreciate what we were getting. @EdgeCall commented this, presumably about the start of their programme:
Finnish member @TT_Fin commented:
While my goof friend in Sicily, @elektra blue, immediately reacted to the music with this:
To which @Sabsi replied, tongue in cheek:
And, referencing her own avatar, @elektra blue replied with:
To which Polish member @Karoltyna replied:
Getting back on topic, elektra's fellow Italian member, @bartlebooth, commented this about the skating:
@figureskatingandrainbows was doing Play-By-Plays:
Wow! I didn't realise Pavel choreographed this! Great work!
(Mind you, you'd have thought he would have come up with a programme that didn't take so much out of himself!)
@fia_nrt was very complimentary about one of their elements:
German member @Jumping_Bean was a bit more reserved:
Music aside, @elektra blue was largely complimentary about the programme:
@Karoltyna was also complimentary:
@auser was confused about Camille's costume:
But @ManyCairns wasn't:
As for the programme itself, here are @ManyCairns' thoughts:
But, picking up on the part about the dress, Polish member @cathlen replied with:
And just to add my opinion, I liked the dress!
Looking at the Protocols, and the only real issue was the second element, the Triple Toe that Camille fell on. It was landed on the quarter. It got the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -2.10, which made it the lowest scoring element of the programme. Unsurprisingly, it got -5 from all nine Judges.
The only other element with negative GOE was the fourth element, the Throw Triple Flip. It got GOE of -0.15, but because it had the third highest Base Value of the programme, it remained as the third highest scoring element of the programme. In terms of Judges marks, it got three -1's; and six 0's.
For the remaining elements, the GOE ranged from +0.16 fro two elements (the opening Triple Twist, and the fifth element, the Backwards Inside Death Spiral), to +0.90 for the third element, the Reverse Lasso Lift. Curiously, the Change Foot Combination Spin got both the lowest Judges mark and the highest Judges mark for the elements that had positive GOE. Judge 2 gave it -1; while Judge 8 gave it +3. But, apart from these outliers, all the Judges marks for the elements that had positive GOE were in the 0 to +2 range.
Camille and Pavel are currently 2.79 points behind 5th position, Audrey SHIN / Balázs NAGY (HUN), and 4.91 points ahead of 7th position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (FRA). Camille and Pavel are at the bottom of a group of 3 partnerships covered by 4.31 points, stretching up to Katie McBEATH / Daniil PARKMAN (USA) in 4th position.
Whilst a podium is out of reach, 4th position is a possibility if they have a good Free Skate. So, with a biggish gap behind them, they can afford to really go all out to try to get it.
So, let's hope they do!
WELL DONE!!!
The Senior Pairs FS is due to start at 20:00:00 CEST (18:00:00 GMT / 19:00:00 BST / 21:00:00 MSK). So 12 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 3rd partnership to start. So, third partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 20:00:00 CEST (18:00:00 GMT / 19:00:00 BST / 21:00:00 MSK). So 12 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 20:22:50 CEST (18:22:50 GMT / 19:22:50 BST / 21:22:50 MSK). So 12h 22m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1054
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwMgWnsGpvw
Camille and Pavel finished 6th out of 8 in the SP, with a score of 59.00.
Unfortunately, due to it watching the Formula 1 Free Practice 1 from Texas, I wasn't able to watch the Pairs SP LIVE. However, I have now watched Camille and Pavel's bits on the archived livestream, so here is the sort of comment I would have written about the Warm-Up if I had been watching LIVE:
Ach, they're still doing these walk-ons! At least they don't have far to go this time.
Standing there waiting to be introduced, they looked a bit nervous. But, when their names were called, they started smiling and Camille waved to the camera, while Pavel gave a V-sign. And when they got onto the ice, they both started waving with both hands to the audience.
Oooh. New graphics. I wonder if they will tell us more than the old ones, or if it is just an unnecessary cosmetic makeover to go with the unnecessary new ISU logo.
Camille and Pavel first to be focussed on when the Warm-Up starts. And they are doing stretches. As usual, they are warming up separately, which is making things a bit tricky for the TV director. We see Pavel doing some small jumps.
Chris is talking at the same time as the French and English rinkside announcers. And the result is that you can't make out what any of them are saying about the skaters! I wish commentators would only talk when the announcers are not talking.
After the skaters were focussed on, they started showing shots of the audience. So, we didn't actually get to see Camille and Pavel doing anything. Which isn't a lot of use.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Standing there waiting to be introduced, they looked a bit nervous. But, when their names were called, they started smiling and Camille waved to the camera, while Pavel gave a V-sign. And when they got onto the ice, they both started waving with both hands to the audience.
Oooh. New graphics. I wonder if they will tell us more than the old ones, or if it is just an unnecessary cosmetic makeover to go with the unnecessary new ISU logo.
Camille and Pavel first to be focussed on when the Warm-Up starts. And they are doing stretches. As usual, they are warming up separately, which is making things a bit tricky for the TV director. We see Pavel doing some small jumps.
Chris is talking at the same time as the French and English rinkside announcers. And the result is that you can't make out what any of them are saying about the skaters! I wish commentators would only talk when the announcers are not talking.
After the skaters were focussed on, they started showing shots of the audience. So, we didn't actually get to see Camille and Pavel doing anything. Which isn't a lot of use.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
And here is the sort of comment I would have written about the programme if I had been watching LIVE:
Pavel looks really nervous waiting to be introduced. Camille does too, but not to the same extent.
Although the writing on these new graphics is clearer, it is far too small to read!
Wish they wouldn't do these arty-farty shots and transitions when the skaters are in their starting position. We want to see the start of the programme properly!
Beautiful Triple Twist to start.
Ach, Camille fell on the Triple Toe. Possibly because she was too close to the boards. (Hard to tell, because she was so close to the camera we were on when she fell).
Another arty-farty camera shot transition in the middle of the Reverse Lasso Lift which meant we didn't see it properly.
Throw Triple Flip good.
Backwars Inside Death Spiral beautiful.
So was the Change Foot Combination Spin that followed, although it too had an arty-farty camera shot transition in the middle of it. For goodness sake, stay on the same camera for the whole element!
And a beautiful Step Sequence to finish with.
This new TES box is awful! It's a good job I'm not watching LIVE, because I was having to pause it after every element to go up close to the TV to check what the element was because the writing is positively tiny! Which really ruined the flow of the programme for me.
I know I've only seen about 15 minutes of the coverage, but if that was anything to go by, the audience were definitely getting to see what is happening better than the TV viewers! What the TV viewers are being given is not good at all.
As usual, Pavel looked more exhausted than Camille when coming off the ice. But, he is not as bad as the last few times I have seen him.
Can't hear a word of what Chris is saying during the replays because the music is so loud.
Silly double waves from both of them when we see them in the results area. Bruno Massot and Dominique Deniaud sitting with them.
Hang on, Pavel is looking a lot more exhausted now. The adrenaline was probably still working on him when they were coming off the ice.
They go into 3rd position.
Pavel claps the scores, while Camille claps his leg.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Although the writing on these new graphics is clearer, it is far too small to read!
Wish they wouldn't do these arty-farty shots and transitions when the skaters are in their starting position. We want to see the start of the programme properly!
Beautiful Triple Twist to start.
Ach, Camille fell on the Triple Toe. Possibly because she was too close to the boards. (Hard to tell, because she was so close to the camera we were on when she fell).
Another arty-farty camera shot transition in the middle of the Reverse Lasso Lift which meant we didn't see it properly.
Throw Triple Flip good.
Backwars Inside Death Spiral beautiful.
So was the Change Foot Combination Spin that followed, although it too had an arty-farty camera shot transition in the middle of it. For goodness sake, stay on the same camera for the whole element!
And a beautiful Step Sequence to finish with.
This new TES box is awful! It's a good job I'm not watching LIVE, because I was having to pause it after every element to go up close to the TV to check what the element was because the writing is positively tiny! Which really ruined the flow of the programme for me.
I know I've only seen about 15 minutes of the coverage, but if that was anything to go by, the audience were definitely getting to see what is happening better than the TV viewers! What the TV viewers are being given is not good at all.
As usual, Pavel looked more exhausted than Camille when coming off the ice. But, he is not as bad as the last few times I have seen him.
Can't hear a word of what Chris is saying during the replays because the music is so loud.
Silly double waves from both of them when we see them in the results area. Bruno Massot and Dominique Deniaud sitting with them.
Hang on, Pavel is looking a lot more exhausted now. The adrenaline was probably still working on him when they were coming off the ice.
They go into 3rd position.
Pavel claps the scores, while Camille claps his leg.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
Sorry for writing so much about the TV coverage, but I wasn't the only one that didn't appreciate what we were getting. @EdgeCall commented this, presumably about the start of their programme:
Finnish member @TT_Fin commented:
While my goof friend in Sicily, @elektra blue, immediately reacted to the music with this:
To which @Sabsi replied, tongue in cheek:
Again, vodka will help
And, referencing her own avatar, @elektra blue replied with:
it would make Aznavour sound like Ozzy i'm sureAgain, vodka will help
To which Polish member @Karoltyna replied:
Getting back on topic, elektra's fellow Italian member, @bartlebooth, commented this about the skating:
@figureskatingandrainbows was doing Play-By-Plays:
5. Camille KOVALEV / Pavel KOVALEV FRA 
SP: "Une vie d'amour" by Mireille Mathieu and Charles Aznavour, choreo by Pavel Kovalev, Dominique Beniaud
3Tw3
3Tq (Camille falls)
5RLi4
3FTh (forwards, not a lot of flow out but hangs out)
BiDs3
CCoSp4
StSq3
SP: 59.00 (3rd)
Pavel did the choreo for this short, which is so fun! This was way better than the short they had at Worlds earlier in the year, where I think there was some sort of injury issues plaguing them. They look a lot more comfortable in this program.
SP: "Une vie d'amour" by Mireille Mathieu and Charles Aznavour, choreo by Pavel Kovalev, Dominique Beniaud
3Tw3
3Tq (Camille falls)
5RLi4
3FTh (forwards, not a lot of flow out but hangs out)
BiDs3
CCoSp4
StSq3
SP: 59.00 (3rd)
Pavel did the choreo for this short, which is so fun! This was way better than the short they had at Worlds earlier in the year, where I think there was some sort of injury issues plaguing them. They look a lot more comfortable in this program.
Wow! I didn't realise Pavel choreographed this! Great work!
(Mind you, you'd have thought he would have come up with a programme that didn't take so much out of himself!)
@fia_nrt was very complimentary about one of their elements:
German member @Jumping_Bean was a bit more reserved:
Music aside, @elektra blue was largely complimentary about the programme:
@Karoltyna was also complimentary:
@auser was confused about Camille's costume:
Trying to decide if I really like Camille's dress or really don't. 
But @ManyCairns wasn't:
I'm definitely in the "really don't" camp!Trying to decide if I really like Camille's dress or really don't.
As for the programme itself, here are @ManyCairns' thoughts:
But, picking up on the part about the dress, Polish member @cathlen replied with:
And just to add my opinion, I liked the dress!
Looking at the Protocols, and the only real issue was the second element, the Triple Toe that Camille fell on. It was landed on the quarter. It got the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -2.10, which made it the lowest scoring element of the programme. Unsurprisingly, it got -5 from all nine Judges.
The only other element with negative GOE was the fourth element, the Throw Triple Flip. It got GOE of -0.15, but because it had the third highest Base Value of the programme, it remained as the third highest scoring element of the programme. In terms of Judges marks, it got three -1's; and six 0's.
For the remaining elements, the GOE ranged from +0.16 fro two elements (the opening Triple Twist, and the fifth element, the Backwards Inside Death Spiral), to +0.90 for the third element, the Reverse Lasso Lift. Curiously, the Change Foot Combination Spin got both the lowest Judges mark and the highest Judges mark for the elements that had positive GOE. Judge 2 gave it -1; while Judge 8 gave it +3. But, apart from these outliers, all the Judges marks for the elements that had positive GOE were in the 0 to +2 range.
Camille and Pavel are currently 2.79 points behind 5th position, Audrey SHIN / Balázs NAGY (HUN), and 4.91 points ahead of 7th position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (FRA). Camille and Pavel are at the bottom of a group of 3 partnerships covered by 4.31 points, stretching up to Katie McBEATH / Daniil PARKMAN (USA) in 4th position.
Whilst a podium is out of reach, 4th position is a possibility if they have a good Free Skate. So, with a biggish gap behind them, they can afford to really go all out to try to get it.
So, let's hope they do!
WELL DONE!!! The Senior Pairs FS is due to start at 20:00:00 CEST (18:00:00 GMT / 19:00:00 BST / 21:00:00 MSK). So 12 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 3rd partnership to start. So, third partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 20:00:00 CEST (18:00:00 GMT / 19:00:00 BST / 21:00:00 MSK). So 12 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 20:22:50 CEST (18:22:50 GMT / 19:22:50 BST / 21:22:50 MSK). So 12h 22m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1054
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
- Joined
- Oct 25, 2012
Trophée De France Senior Pairs FS: Results; Protocols
Trophée De France Senior Pairs: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKaS5pc407E
Camille and Pavel finished 6th out of 8 in the FS, with a score of 101.62. This meant that they remained in 6th position overall, with a score of 160.62.
Unfortunately, due to playing catch-up on the the final round of the British Superbikes from Kent (I had been concentrating on watching the final round of the World Superbikes from Spain earlier in the day), I wasn't able to watch the Pairs FS LIVE. However, I have now watched Camille and Pavel's bits on the archived livestream, so here is the sort of comment I would have written about the Warm-Up if I had been watching LIVE:
And here is the sort of comment I would have written about the programme if I had been watching LIVE:
For those that were watching LIVE, the comments started with some good luck wishes:
But then they started skating. And the first comment came from Veronica Lake, sorry, @Lamente Ariane:
To which Canadian member @4everchan later replied:
And @Lamente Ariane replied to this with:
@figureskatingandrainbows was doing Play-By-Plays:
Norwegian member @norwegianfairytale called a spade a spade, and pointed out something I hadn't noticed:
My fellow British member @FlossieH said forlornly:
@Lamente Ariane came back and quoted what Chris said immediately after they finished:
Not the band @cocteautwin complemented them on the penultimate element
As ever, my good friend from Sicily, @elektra blue, just said it like it was:
Our basion of positivity, @Jeanie19, lived up to that billing:
@yuumagical came up with a very witty remark:
Long term member @museksk8r just said:
Italian member @bartlebooth wrote a very balance comment which I agree with:
Chilean member @jorge2912 made an upbeat comment:
While @lariko in Canada ended the discussion on a downbeat note:
Looking at the Protocols, there were three elements with negative GOE. And funnily enough, they are the three elements that I spotted issues with.
Obviously, the first of these was the second element, the Triple Salchow that Camille fell on. Turns out that it was also landed on the quarter. It had the second biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -2.15, which made it the lowest scoring element of the programme. Unsurprisingly, it got -5 from all nine Judges.
The next was the fourth element, the Axel Lasso Lift where I thought the dismount looked awkward. It had the third biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -0.30, but because it had the joint highest Base Value of the programme, it became the second highest scoring element of the programme. It got a wide variety of Judges marks: -3 from Judge 4; -2 from two Judges; -1 from Judge 8; 0 from two Judges; +1 from Judge 3; and +2 from Judge 5.
The next was the seventh element, the Throw Triple Flip that Camille fell on. It had the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -2.65, which made it the third lowest scoring element of the programme. Unsurprisingly, it got -5 from all nine Judges.
The remaining elements had GOE ranging from +0.25 for the fifth element, the Backwards Outside Death Spiral, to +0.70 for the 8th element, the Reverse Lasso Lift. The latter had the joint highest Base Value of the programme, which meant it was the highest scoring element of the programme. All the Judges marks for the elements with positive GOE were in teh 0 ro +2 range.
Camille and Pavel finished the Free Skate 9.89 points behind 5th position, Audrey SHIN / Balázs NAGY (HUN), and 7.61 points ahead of 7th position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (FRA).
Overall, Camille and Pavel finished 12.68 points behind 5th position, Shin / Nagy, and 12.52 points ahead of 7th position, Faula / Belle.
Sixth position in their home Grand Prix is not what Camille and Pavel would have wanted. But, when you see the size of the gaps either side of them, you can't really argue with the numbers. It's not even because of the mistakes. The Base Value of the Free Skate programme just wasn't high enough to put them into contention with the partnerships ahead of them.
But, they can reassure themselves that across the two programmes, although there were a few mistakes, most of the elements were actually good.
WELL DONE!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Trophée De France Senior Pairs: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKaS5pc407E
Camille and Pavel finished 6th out of 8 in the FS, with a score of 101.62. This meant that they remained in 6th position overall, with a score of 160.62.
Unfortunately, due to playing catch-up on the the final round of the British Superbikes from Kent (I had been concentrating on watching the final round of the World Superbikes from Spain earlier in the day), I wasn't able to watch the Pairs FS LIVE. However, I have now watched Camille and Pavel's bits on the archived livestream, so here is the sort of comment I would have written about the Warm-Up if I had been watching LIVE:
Yeah! Double signs of the horns from both Camille and Pavel!" 
Chris is again fighting a losing battle with the rinkside announcers and the music.
Saw Pavel skating parallel to the boards at the bottom of a shot while one of the earlier partnerships was being focussed on. But that was the only time we saw either him or Camille before they were focussed on.
When they came to be focussed on, Camille was just joining up with her husband, and they circled around and did a beautiful throw. Then they waited for the French announcer to finish introducing them, and then both did a double wave to the spectators.
Ah, Chris was quiet when the English announcer was introducing them, so we got to hear what he said about them. Wow! It doesn't seem like nearly 8 years since they got married. Or 11 years that they have been skating together.
Saw a brief shot of them in between shots of the audience. But, they were just skating along individually, minding their own business.
Just before the one minute warning, we saw Pavel on his own doing a very impressive combination jump.
And apart from when they were heading to the gate (together!), that was the last we saw of either of them.
Now they have to wait until after the two other partnerships representing the host country before it is their turn to skate.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Chris is again fighting a losing battle with the rinkside announcers and the music.
Saw Pavel skating parallel to the boards at the bottom of a shot while one of the earlier partnerships was being focussed on. But that was the only time we saw either him or Camille before they were focussed on.
When they came to be focussed on, Camille was just joining up with her husband, and they circled around and did a beautiful throw. Then they waited for the French announcer to finish introducing them, and then both did a double wave to the spectators.
Ah, Chris was quiet when the English announcer was introducing them, so we got to hear what he said about them. Wow! It doesn't seem like nearly 8 years since they got married. Or 11 years that they have been skating together.
Saw a brief shot of them in between shots of the audience. But, they were just skating along individually, minding their own business.
Just before the one minute warning, we saw Pavel on his own doing a very impressive combination jump.
And apart from when they were heading to the gate (together!), that was the last we saw of either of them.
Now they have to wait until after the two other partnerships representing the host country before it is their turn to skate.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
And here is the sort of comment I would have written about the programme if I had been watching LIVE:
Big cheers and lots of flag waving when they were introduced.
Love the choreography at the start to the guitar solo.
Triple Twist looked so relaxed. Like they hadn't a care in the world.
Camille fell on Triple Salchow. (Not a great camera angle for this element).
Pavel a lot slower than Camille on combination jump. So, out of sync. Also, Camille too close to corner during second part, and didn't have enough room to do it properly.
Axel Lasso lift beautiful, but dismount perhaps a bit awkward.
Backwards Outside Death Spiral beautiful.
So was the Combination Spin at the change of song.
Camille fell on Throw Triple Flip.
Reverse Lasso Lift was better.
They are really getting into the Choreographic Sequence after the change to "Seven Nation Army"!
Beautiful Throw Triple Salchow. Chris very happy.
Ach, an arty farty camera shot transition in the middle of what was a beautiful lift spoiled the finish to the programme.
Both of them bent double immediately after they finished.
My goodness. There are giant cardboard cut-outs of their heads being held up in the audience. Sorry, but I find that weird and creepy.
In the replays, we saw a different camera angle of the combination jump, and it turned out that Camille had plenty of room, but Pavel was too close to the boards and had to pull out. So the exact opposite to how it appeared from the camera angle we saw it from at the time.
When we went to the results area, they both did double waves. Camille was chirpy and chatting to Bruno, but Pavel was really suffering from exhaustion.
After their scores are announced, they both do hand hearts, but Pavel barely has the energy to do it.
They go into the lead of both the FS, and overall.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Love the choreography at the start to the guitar solo.
Triple Twist looked so relaxed. Like they hadn't a care in the world.
Camille fell on Triple Salchow. (Not a great camera angle for this element).
Pavel a lot slower than Camille on combination jump. So, out of sync. Also, Camille too close to corner during second part, and didn't have enough room to do it properly.
Axel Lasso lift beautiful, but dismount perhaps a bit awkward.
Backwards Outside Death Spiral beautiful.
So was the Combination Spin at the change of song.
Camille fell on Throw Triple Flip.
Reverse Lasso Lift was better.
They are really getting into the Choreographic Sequence after the change to "Seven Nation Army"!
Beautiful Throw Triple Salchow. Chris very happy.
Ach, an arty farty camera shot transition in the middle of what was a beautiful lift spoiled the finish to the programme.
Both of them bent double immediately after they finished.
My goodness. There are giant cardboard cut-outs of their heads being held up in the audience. Sorry, but I find that weird and creepy.
In the replays, we saw a different camera angle of the combination jump, and it turned out that Camille had plenty of room, but Pavel was too close to the boards and had to pull out. So the exact opposite to how it appeared from the camera angle we saw it from at the time.
When we went to the results area, they both did double waves. Camille was chirpy and chatting to Bruno, but Pavel was really suffering from exhaustion.
After their scores are announced, they both do hand hearts, but Pavel barely has the energy to do it.
They go into the lead of both the FS, and overall.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
For those that were watching LIVE, the comments started with some good luck wishes:
But then they started skating. And the first comment came from Veronica Lake, sorry, @Lamente Ariane:
Oh god, I don't know if I can watch anymore this is not going well 
To which Canadian member @4everchan later replied:
the price we pay for men not falling too much is collected here.Oh god, I don't know if I can watch anymore this is not going well
And @Lamente Ariane replied to this with:
@figureskatingandrainbows was doing Play-By-Plays:
3. Camille KOVALEV / Pavel KOVALEV FRA
FS: "Come Together" performed by Gary Clark Jr. Junkie XL, John Lennon; "After Dark" by Tito et Tarantula, Steve Huffstester; "Seven Nation Army" by The White Stripes, Jack White; choreo by Pavel Kovalev, Dominique Deniaud
3Tw3
3Sq (Camille falls)
2T(Camille doubles)+2T
5ALi4
BoDs3
PCoSp3
3FTh (fall)
5RLi4
ChSq1
3STh
3Li4
SP: 59.00 (6th)
FS: 101.62 (1st)
TOT: 160.62 (1st)
What a fun program, I love that the Kovalevs have embraced fun and quirky programs! There were some difficulties with the SBS jumps and throws but they...
FS: "Come Together" performed by Gary Clark Jr. Junkie XL, John Lennon; "After Dark" by Tito et Tarantula, Steve Huffstester; "Seven Nation Army" by The White Stripes, Jack White; choreo by Pavel Kovalev, Dominique Deniaud
3Tw3
3Sq (Camille falls)
2T(Camille doubles)+2T
5ALi4
BoDs3
PCoSp3
3FTh (fall)
5RLi4
ChSq1
3STh
3Li4
SP: 59.00 (6th)
FS: 101.62 (1st)
TOT: 160.62 (1st)
What a fun program, I love that the Kovalevs have embraced fun and quirky programs! There were some difficulties with the SBS jumps and throws but they...
Norwegian member @norwegianfairytale called a spade a spade, and pointed out something I hadn't noticed:
That was a bit of a mess 
Bruno doesn´t look happy..
Bruno doesn´t look happy..My fellow British member @FlossieH said forlornly:
@Lamente Ariane came back and quoted what Chris said immediately after they finished:
"I think it's safe to say that was a long four minutes for Camille and Pavel" 
Not the band @cocteautwin complemented them on the penultimate element
As ever, my good friend from Sicily, @elektra blue, just said it like it was:
Our basion of positivity, @Jeanie19, lived up to that billing:
Camille/Pavel. Good outfits and program. The second half of the program is really good. Nice skate.
@yuumagical came up with a very witty remark:
Long term member @museksk8r just said:
These skaters are not skating like it’s the Olympic season.
Italian member @bartlebooth wrote a very balance comment which I agree with:
Chilean member @jorge2912 made an upbeat comment:
While @lariko in Canada ended the discussion on a downbeat note:
Looking at the Protocols, there were three elements with negative GOE. And funnily enough, they are the three elements that I spotted issues with.
Obviously, the first of these was the second element, the Triple Salchow that Camille fell on. Turns out that it was also landed on the quarter. It had the second biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -2.15, which made it the lowest scoring element of the programme. Unsurprisingly, it got -5 from all nine Judges.
The next was the fourth element, the Axel Lasso Lift where I thought the dismount looked awkward. It had the third biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -0.30, but because it had the joint highest Base Value of the programme, it became the second highest scoring element of the programme. It got a wide variety of Judges marks: -3 from Judge 4; -2 from two Judges; -1 from Judge 8; 0 from two Judges; +1 from Judge 3; and +2 from Judge 5.
The next was the seventh element, the Throw Triple Flip that Camille fell on. It had the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -2.65, which made it the third lowest scoring element of the programme. Unsurprisingly, it got -5 from all nine Judges.
The remaining elements had GOE ranging from +0.25 for the fifth element, the Backwards Outside Death Spiral, to +0.70 for the 8th element, the Reverse Lasso Lift. The latter had the joint highest Base Value of the programme, which meant it was the highest scoring element of the programme. All the Judges marks for the elements with positive GOE were in teh 0 ro +2 range.
Camille and Pavel finished the Free Skate 9.89 points behind 5th position, Audrey SHIN / Balázs NAGY (HUN), and 7.61 points ahead of 7th position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (FRA).
Overall, Camille and Pavel finished 12.68 points behind 5th position, Shin / Nagy, and 12.52 points ahead of 7th position, Faula / Belle.
Sixth position in their home Grand Prix is not what Camille and Pavel would have wanted. But, when you see the size of the gaps either side of them, you can't really argue with the numbers. It's not even because of the mistakes. The Base Value of the Free Skate programme just wasn't high enough to put them into contention with the partnerships ahead of them.
But, they can reassure themselves that across the two programmes, although there were a few mistakes, most of the elements were actually good.
WELL DONE!!! CaroLiza_fan
- Joined
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Camille and Pavel will be back in action this week at the fourth round of the Senior GP Series, the NHK Trophy, in Osaka, Japan.
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start tomorrow at 14:35:00 JST (05:35:00 GMT / 06:35:00 CET / 08:35:00 MSK). So 8 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 4th partnership to start. So, fourth and final partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 14:35:00 JST (05:35:00 GMT / 06:35:00 CET / 08:35:00 MSK). So 8 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 15:01:30 JST (06:01:30 GMT / 07:01:30 CET / 09:01:30 MSK). So 8h 26m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1053
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start tomorrow at 14:35:00 JST (05:35:00 GMT / 06:35:00 CET / 08:35:00 MSK). So 8 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 4th partnership to start. So, fourth and final partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 14:35:00 JST (05:35:00 GMT / 06:35:00 CET / 08:35:00 MSK). So 8 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 15:01:30 JST (06:01:30 GMT / 07:01:30 CET / 09:01:30 MSK). So 8h 26m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1053
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
- Joined
- Oct 25, 2012
NHK Trophy Senior Pairs SP: Results; Protocols
No video uploaded yet (thank goodness!)
Camille and Pavel withdrew from the SP after Camille fell and dislocated her shoulder during the programme.
Unfortunately, I only woke up at the time that the Pairs SP livestream was due to come on air. So, by the time the computer had started up, I had missed the Warm-Up. But I have now watched the Warm-Up on the archived livestream, so here is the sort of comment I would have written if I had been watching LIVE:
Here is what I wrote when they were being introduced:
And here is what I wrote about their programme:
As Camille's fall happened so early in the programme, all the comments in the thread were about it. Here are the initial reactions:
Our resident video archive list compiler, labgoat, provided some information from the viewpoint of somebody in the medical preofession:
Canadian member 4everchan came back to look at the bigger picture:
Australian member TallyT was wincing at watching it (as was I!):
withwings had high hopes for Camille and Pavel:
they started so well...i thought finally they will have a fantastic skate :-(
To which labgoat replied:
labgoat also told us more about her own experience:
To which 4everchan replied:
To which I replied:
While NanaPat told the story of a friend:
labgoat answered the question with:
While 4everchan answered:
Like me, EdgeCall arrived late and commented:
lileychristie in Australia brought up some good points:
And ManyCairns commented:
Because Camille and Pavel were unable to complete their programme, they are not included in the Protocols. Which I don't agree with. They got one element done and a second attempted, so what they were given for them should be included in the Protocols. It would be a different matter if they hadn't got any elements done. But they did. And that should get recognised.
But right now, the most important thing is Camille's recovery from her injury. I hope she takes the time to get fully recovered, and does not attempt to rush back before her body is ready. Her long term health is more important than the possibility of going to the Olympics.
Get well soon, Camille
CaroLiza_fan
No video uploaded yet (thank goodness!)
Camille and Pavel withdrew from the SP after Camille fell and dislocated her shoulder during the programme.
Unfortunately, I only woke up at the time that the Pairs SP livestream was due to come on air. So, by the time the computer had started up, I had missed the Warm-Up. But I have now watched the Warm-Up on the archived livestream, so here is the sort of comment I would have written if I had been watching LIVE:
Awww. Camille and Pavel walking on holding hands, and waving with their spare hands. And when they get to the ice, they start doing double waves.
Mmmm. The French team jackets are the same colour as the American team jackets. So I hope one partnership or the other (or both!) take off their jackets soon, to make it easier for me to spot my kids.
And just as I write that, we see Emily and Spencer taking off their jackets in the background of a shot. A few shots later, we see that Camille and Pavel have done so as well. And the costumes are nothing alike, so all is good.
When it is time to focus on Camille and Pavel, they are circulating separately. Camille is picked up first, but just as she is lining up a jump, the camera switches to Pavel, who is doing nothing. When we return to Camille, she is doing nothing. But we see in the background Pavel lining up a jump at the far end of the rink. But, the camera follows Camille, and he goes out of shot. The camera then returns to Pavel, who is now just going past the officials. The camera then switches back to Camille, and we see her doing a lovely jump.
We then go to an overhead shot, and Camille has gone over to the boards. In the background of the next shot, we see that Pavel is still circulating around the rink.
In the last minute, we had a good shot of Pavel doing a beautiful jump, and then his wife going past in the foreground of the shot. After following him for a few more seconds, the camera switched to Camille, who looked like she had run out of things to do in the remaining seconds of the Warm-Up. So, she practices some figures.
And then we saw them leaving the ice individually. Camille first, then another couple of skaters, and then Pavel.
CaroLiza_fan
Mmmm. The French team jackets are the same colour as the American team jackets. So I hope one partnership or the other (or both!) take off their jackets soon, to make it easier for me to spot my kids.
And just as I write that, we see Emily and Spencer taking off their jackets in the background of a shot. A few shots later, we see that Camille and Pavel have done so as well. And the costumes are nothing alike, so all is good.
When it is time to focus on Camille and Pavel, they are circulating separately. Camille is picked up first, but just as she is lining up a jump, the camera switches to Pavel, who is doing nothing. When we return to Camille, she is doing nothing. But we see in the background Pavel lining up a jump at the far end of the rink. But, the camera follows Camille, and he goes out of shot. The camera then returns to Pavel, who is now just going past the officials. The camera then switches back to Camille, and we see her doing a lovely jump.
We then go to an overhead shot, and Camille has gone over to the boards. In the background of the next shot, we see that Pavel is still circulating around the rink.
In the last minute, we had a good shot of Pavel doing a beautiful jump, and then his wife going past in the foreground of the shot. After following him for a few more seconds, the camera switched to Camille, who looked like she had run out of things to do in the remaining seconds of the Warm-Up. So, she practices some figures.
And then we saw them leaving the ice individually. Camille first, then another couple of skaters, and then Pavel.
CaroLiza_fan
Here is what I wrote when they were being introduced:
I'm annoyed. I woke up at 04:15 and went to the toilet. And I was going to switch on the computer then before going to back to bed, because I knew it takes about 20 minutes for it to start up. But I thought "no, it's too early. I don't want it to be on for over an hour before I come back to it. I'll get up again at 05:00 and put it on".
Except I went back to sleep. And didn't wake up until 05:30, the time that the stream was starting!
So, I've missed the Warm-Up, and the first two partnerships.
But, at least I got here in time for my kids.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND...
Except I went back to sleep. And didn't wake up until 05:30, the time that the stream was starting!
So, I've missed the Warm-Up, and the first two partnerships.
But, at least I got here in time for my kids.
ALL THE BEST CAMILLE AND...And here is what I wrote about their programme:
Beautiful twist to start with.
Camille fall next to the boards. Oh no. She's landed awkwardly and hurt herself. Husband Pavel has gone over to see to her.
Mark's immediately called a dislocated shoulder.
Pavel helps her up and takes her to the gate. Bruno Massot trying to put the arm back into the socket.
Now Bruno has sent Pavel over to the panel for the formalities of telling them what is going on. Understandably, that was the last thing on Pavel's mind. He was more concerned with his wife.
They have now left the arena.
Get well soon Camille.
Caroliza_fan
Camille fall next to the boards. Oh no. She's landed awkwardly and hurt herself. Husband Pavel has gone over to see to her.
Mark's immediately called a dislocated shoulder.
Pavel helps her up and takes her to the gate. Bruno Massot trying to put the arm back into the socket.
Now Bruno has sent Pavel over to the panel for the formalities of telling them what is going on. Understandably, that was the last thing on Pavel's mind. He was more concerned with his wife.
They have now left the arena.
Get well soon Camille.
Caroliza_fan
As Camille's fall happened so early in the programme, all the comments in the thread were about it. Here are the initial reactions:
Oh no...
Hope Camillle's injury is minimal and she recovers soon
Hope Camillle's injury is minimal and she recovers soon
Oh no! This is so sad! She’s injured and appears they will have to withdraw.
Oh no! Hope she is not too badly injured and recovers soon.
Our resident video archive list compiler, labgoat, provided some information from the viewpoint of somebody in the medical preofession:
Canadian member 4everchan came back to look at the bigger picture:
Australian member TallyT was wincing at watching it (as was I!):
withwings had high hopes for Camille and Pavel:
they started so well...i thought finally they will have a fantastic skate :-(To which labgoat replied:
They have terrible luck
labgoat also told us more about her own experience:
To which 4everchan replied:
To which I replied:
While NanaPat told the story of a friend:
labgoat answered the question with:
While 4everchan answered:
Like me, EdgeCall arrived late and commented:
Hello.
I'm used to watching skaters fall when I log in, but that's a new low.
Best wishes to Camille.
I'm used to watching skaters fall when I log in, but that's a new low.
Best wishes to Camille. lileychristie in Australia brought up some good points:
I was watching while multitasking with my work, and of course I happened to watch exactly when Camille fell 
So sad to see that happened to them, especially after all their injury woes last season I hope they can recover enough at least for the Olympics team event
So sad to see that happened to them, especially after all their injury woes last season
I hope they can recover enough at least for the Olympics team event And ManyCairns commented:
Because Camille and Pavel were unable to complete their programme, they are not included in the Protocols. Which I don't agree with. They got one element done and a second attempted, so what they were given for them should be included in the Protocols. It would be a different matter if they hadn't got any elements done. But they did. And that should get recognised.
But right now, the most important thing is Camille's recovery from her injury. I hope she takes the time to get fully recovered, and does not attempt to rush back before her body is ready. Her long term health is more important than the possibility of going to the Olympics.
Get well soon, Camille
CaroLiza_fan
I'm part-way through watching the pairs short. Knowing the results, and that Camile and Pavel WD, I was surprised to see them warming up but thought they must have pulled out after that. My heart then sank when they actually took to the ice, because that could only mean an aborted programme. On the positive side, it did look like it was potentially quite a straightforward dislocation - and that is something which she can come back from okay. My fear when I saw them start their skate, and knowing that the result was a withdrawal, was that one of them was about to get a head injury. I'm not wanting to minimise a shoulder dislocation, but I am very relieved that it wasn't something worse.
Has anyone seen an update?
Has anyone seen an update?
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I'm not sure if it will actually happen, but Camille and Pavel are down to be in action this week at the French Championships, held this time in Briançon, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur.
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start at 15:41:00 CET (14:41:00 GMT / 17:41:00 MSK). So 8 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 5th and final partnership to start. So, fifth and final partnership to go in Group 2.
The Group 2 Warm-Up is due to start at 15:59:40 CET (14:59:40 GMT / 17:59:40 MSK). So 8h 19m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 16:18:20 CET (15:18:20 GMT / 18:18:20 MSK). So 8h 38m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event thread:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/102499
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start at 15:41:00 CET (14:41:00 GMT / 17:41:00 MSK). So 8 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 5th and final partnership to start. So, fifth and final partnership to go in Group 2.
The Group 2 Warm-Up is due to start at 15:59:40 CET (14:59:40 GMT / 17:59:40 MSK). So 8h 19m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 16:18:20 CET (15:18:20 GMT / 18:18:20 MSK). So 8h 38m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event thread:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/102499
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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CAMILLE AND PAVEL WON THE SHORT PROGRAMME!!!
French Champoionships Senior Pairs SP: Results; Protocols
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Camille and Pavel finished 1st out of 4 in the SP, with a score of 63.79.
Unfortunately I was not able to watch LIVE, as I was concentrating on the Russian Championships. However, I have now watched them on the archived livestream.
Here is the sort of comment that I would have written about the Warm-Up for the competition thread if I had been watching LIVE:
And here is the sort of comment that I would have written about their programme for the competition thread if I had been watching LIVE:
Looking at the Protocols, there were only two elements that had issues. The first was the second element, the Triple Toe, which was landed on the quarter. It had the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -0.59, which meant that it went from having the fourth highest Base Value of the programme, to being the second lowest scoring element of the programme. The Judges gave it three -2's; and four -1's.
The sixth element, the Change Foot Combination Spin, had the second bigget GOE hit of the programme, at -0.09. As it already had the lowest Base Value of the programme, it remained as the lowest scoring element of the programme. It got -2 from Judge 4; -1 from three Judges; 0 from Judge 2; and +1 from two Judges.
The remaining elements had GOE ranging from +0.62 for the fifthe lement, the Backwards Inside Death Spiral, to +1.26 for the third element, the Reverse Lasso Lift. And because the aforementioned Reverse Lasso Lift had the highest Base Value of the programme, it remained as the highest scoring element of the programme. Apart from a 0 from Judge 3 for the aforementioned Backwards Inside Death Spiral, all the Judges marks for the elements with positive GOE were in the +1 to +3 range.
Although Camille and Pavel did not have the highest total Technical Elements Score of the field, (they were 1.96 points behind the partnership with the highest TES, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE), they did have the highest Programme Components score (where they were 3.05 points ahead of the partnership with the next highest PCS, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE)
Camille and Pavel are currently 1.09 points ahead of 2nd position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (PFV), and 8.56 points ahead of 3rd position, Megan WESSENBERG / Denys STREKALIN (Anger). The field is completed by Louise EHRHARD / Matthis PELLEGRIS (PFV) in 4th position, 10.11 points behind Camilel and Pavel.
Well, we have a duel over 1st and 2nd positions, and another duel over 3rd and 4th positions.
Unless something untoward happens, the worst that Camille and Pavel can finish is 2nd position. But, they will want to win this to prove a point after what happened at the NHK Trophy. So, they need to put in a good Free Skate to hold Aurélie and Théo off.
So, let's hope that they do!
WELL DONE!!!
The Senior Pairs FS is due to start at 14:00:00 CET (13:00:00 GMT / 16:00:00 MSK). So 6 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 4th and final partnership to start. So, fourth and final partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 14:00:00 CET (13:00:00 GMT / 16:00:00 MSK). So 6 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 14:29:30 CET (13:29:30 GMT / 16:29:30 MSK). So 6h 29m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event thread:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/102499
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
French Champoionships Senior Pairs SP: Results; Protocols
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Camille and Pavel finished 1st out of 4 in the SP, with a score of 63.79.
Unfortunately I was not able to watch LIVE, as I was concentrating on the Russian Championships. However, I have now watched them on the archived livestream.
Here is the sort of comment that I would have written about the Warm-Up for the competition thread if I had been watching LIVE:
This is funny. They are attempting to do fancy walk-ons when there is only a few feet between the gate and the first row of seating.
Oh, the middle partnership in this group has withdrawn. So, Camille and Pavel were just standing in the gate for a while. Then when they were called, they came out, held hands for a split second, and then started doing double waves to the audience.
After this, the two partnerships went towards each other looking lost, not knowing what to do. But then they both decided to head off in opposite directions, skating parallel to the boards.
The camera started off by following Camille and Pavel, who were circulating together until they reaced Louise and Matthis, who were in full flow. Camille went one side, and Pavel went the other side, and that was when they went off to do their own things. THe camera then started following Louise and Matthis.
It then got funny when they finished what they were doing, because the camera stopped, and Camille went by on her own, followed by Pavel on his own, followed by Lousie and Matthis together. It was like a train going by! Then, when the camera moved, we saw that each skater now had a quarter of the rink to themselves.
Pavel then decided it was time to meet up with his wife, but she opted to get rid of her jacket first. After watching Louise and Matthis for a while, we went back to Camille and Pavel, who were now doing stuff together. And we saw a beautiful throw. Unfortunately, the camera then stopped moving.
A while later, we saw them getting into position to do another throw, but it happened out of shot. And a while later, the same thing happened again.
For the next couple of minutes, all we saw were skaters crossing the shot individually. And Camille talking at the boards for a while. And then in the last minute, they started showing adverts. So, we didn't actually see any more action from the Warm-Up.
CaroLiza_fan
Oh, the middle partnership in this group has withdrawn. So, Camille and Pavel were just standing in the gate for a while. Then when they were called, they came out, held hands for a split second, and then started doing double waves to the audience.
After this, the two partnerships went towards each other looking lost, not knowing what to do. But then they both decided to head off in opposite directions, skating parallel to the boards.
The camera started off by following Camille and Pavel, who were circulating together until they reaced Louise and Matthis, who were in full flow. Camille went one side, and Pavel went the other side, and that was when they went off to do their own things. THe camera then started following Louise and Matthis.
It then got funny when they finished what they were doing, because the camera stopped, and Camille went by on her own, followed by Pavel on his own, followed by Lousie and Matthis together. It was like a train going by! Then, when the camera moved, we saw that each skater now had a quarter of the rink to themselves.
Pavel then decided it was time to meet up with his wife, but she opted to get rid of her jacket first. After watching Louise and Matthis for a while, we went back to Camille and Pavel, who were now doing stuff together. And we saw a beautiful throw. Unfortunately, the camera then stopped moving.
A while later, we saw them getting into position to do another throw, but it happened out of shot. And a while later, the same thing happened again.
For the next couple of minutes, all we saw were skaters crossing the shot individually. And Camille talking at the boards for a while. And then in the last minute, they started showing adverts. So, we didn't actually see any more action from the Warm-Up.
CaroLiza_fan
And here is the sort of comment that I would have written about their programme for the competition thread if I had been watching LIVE:
Oooh, I like the choreography of getting into their starting position.
Beautiful Triple Twist to start with
Thank goodness there was no hangover from the NHK Trophy on the Triple Toe. It went well.
So was the Reverse Lasso Lift.
Beautiful Throw Triple Lutz.
Backwards Inside Death Spiral beautiful too.
They were in sync for most of the Change Foot Combination Spin, but lost it towards the end.
Step Sequence and finishing sequence was beautiful too.
When Camille put her hand on Pavel's chest after they finished, it looked like a reassurring "we did it!"
As usual, Pavel is completely wrecked. Camille actually looks worried, and seems to be checking with him that he is alright as they go to the centre to take their bows.
Camille gives Pavel a wee pat on the backside as they are coming off the ice. Cheeky!
Has the camera in the results area stopped working? WE are jsut looking at enpty ice and the boards.
No, they were just taking their time to get to the results area. They arrive just as the scores are starting to be announced.
Camille deep in conversation with Bruno.
They go into the lead.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Beautiful Triple Twist to start with
Thank goodness there was no hangover from the NHK Trophy on the Triple Toe. It went well.
So was the Reverse Lasso Lift.
Beautiful Throw Triple Lutz.
Backwards Inside Death Spiral beautiful too.
They were in sync for most of the Change Foot Combination Spin, but lost it towards the end.
Step Sequence and finishing sequence was beautiful too.
When Camille put her hand on Pavel's chest after they finished, it looked like a reassurring "we did it!"
As usual, Pavel is completely wrecked. Camille actually looks worried, and seems to be checking with him that he is alright as they go to the centre to take their bows.
Camille gives Pavel a wee pat on the backside as they are coming off the ice. Cheeky!
Has the camera in the results area stopped working? WE are jsut looking at enpty ice and the boards.
No, they were just taking their time to get to the results area. They arrive just as the scores are starting to be announced.
Camille deep in conversation with Bruno.
They go into the lead.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
Looking at the Protocols, there were only two elements that had issues. The first was the second element, the Triple Toe, which was landed on the quarter. It had the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -0.59, which meant that it went from having the fourth highest Base Value of the programme, to being the second lowest scoring element of the programme. The Judges gave it three -2's; and four -1's.
The sixth element, the Change Foot Combination Spin, had the second bigget GOE hit of the programme, at -0.09. As it already had the lowest Base Value of the programme, it remained as the lowest scoring element of the programme. It got -2 from Judge 4; -1 from three Judges; 0 from Judge 2; and +1 from two Judges.
The remaining elements had GOE ranging from +0.62 for the fifthe lement, the Backwards Inside Death Spiral, to +1.26 for the third element, the Reverse Lasso Lift. And because the aforementioned Reverse Lasso Lift had the highest Base Value of the programme, it remained as the highest scoring element of the programme. Apart from a 0 from Judge 3 for the aforementioned Backwards Inside Death Spiral, all the Judges marks for the elements with positive GOE were in the +1 to +3 range.
Although Camille and Pavel did not have the highest total Technical Elements Score of the field, (they were 1.96 points behind the partnership with the highest TES, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE), they did have the highest Programme Components score (where they were 3.05 points ahead of the partnership with the next highest PCS, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE)
Camille and Pavel are currently 1.09 points ahead of 2nd position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (PFV), and 8.56 points ahead of 3rd position, Megan WESSENBERG / Denys STREKALIN (Anger). The field is completed by Louise EHRHARD / Matthis PELLEGRIS (PFV) in 4th position, 10.11 points behind Camilel and Pavel.
Well, we have a duel over 1st and 2nd positions, and another duel over 3rd and 4th positions.
Unless something untoward happens, the worst that Camille and Pavel can finish is 2nd position. But, they will want to win this to prove a point after what happened at the NHK Trophy. So, they need to put in a good Free Skate to hold Aurélie and Théo off.
So, let's hope that they do!
WELL DONE!!! The Senior Pairs FS is due to start at 14:00:00 CET (13:00:00 GMT / 16:00:00 MSK). So 6 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 4th and final partnership to start. So, fourth and final partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 14:00:00 CET (13:00:00 GMT / 16:00:00 MSK). So 6 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 14:29:30 CET (13:29:30 GMT / 16:29:30 MSK). So 6h 29m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event thread:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/102499
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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CAMILLE AND PAVEL WON THE FREE SKATE AND THE 
GOLD MEDAL!!!
French Champoionships Senior Pairs FS: Results; Protocols
French Champoionships Senior Pairs: Results
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Camille and Pavel finished 1st out of 4 in the FS, with a score of 113.27. This meant that they remained in 1st position overall, with a score of 177.06.
Unfortunately I was not able to watch LIVE, as I was concentrating on the Russian Championships. However, I have now watched them on the archived livestream.
Here is the sort of comment that I would have written about the Warm-Up for the competition thread if I had been watching LIVE:
And here is the sort of comment I would have written about the programme if I had been watching LIVE:
Looking at the Protocols, there were only two issues. The second element, the Triple Salchow, was landed on the quarter. It had the second biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -1.29. This meant that it went from having the fourth lowest Base Value of the programme, to being the second lowest scoring element of the programme. It got -3 from six Judges; and -2 from Judge 4.
The third element, the Triple Toe, was supposed to have been done in combination. It had the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -1.51, which meant that it went from having the second lowest Base Value of the programme, to being the lowest scoring element of the programme. It got -5 from two Judges; -4 from two Judges; -3 from Judge 4; and -2 from two Judges.
The remaining elements had GOE ranging from +0.07 for the fifth element, the Backwards Outside Death Spiral, to +1.40 for the fourth element, the Axel Lasso Lift. The forementioned Axel Lasso Lift already had the joint highest Base Value of the programme, so it became the highest scoring element of the programme in it's own right. Apart from a -1 from Judge 5 for the seventh element, the Throw Triple Lutz, all the Judges marks for the elements with positive GOE ranged from 0 to +3.
I don't know what exactly it was for, but they got a point deducted for a Time Violation.
Nevertheless, they had the highest total Technical Elements Score of the field, and the highest total Programme Components Score of the programme.
Camille and Pavel finished the Free Skate 4.33 points ahead of 2nd position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (PFV), and 15.60 points ahead of 3rd position, Louise EHRHARD / Matthis PELLEGRIS (PFV). The field is completed by Megan WESSENBERG / Denys STREKALIN (Anger) in 4th position, 19.88 points behind Camilel and Pavel.
Overall, Camille and Pavel finished 5.42 points ahead of 2nd position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (PFV), and 25.71 points ahead of 3rd position, Louise EHRHARD / Matthis PELLEGRIS (PFV). The field is completed by Megan WESSENBERG / Denys STREKALIN (Anger) in 4th position, 28.4 points behind Camilel and Pavel.
This is their highest FS score since Nationals in December 2023.
I have to be honest, after Camille's injury at the NHK Trophy, I had my doubts as to whether she would be ready to compete when Nationals came around. And I had even bigger doubts as to whether they would be able to win if they did compete. But, I should have had more faith. It just proves what we have always known - Pairs girls are superhuman!
WELL DONE!!!
CaroLiza_fan
GOLD MEDAL!!! French Champoionships Senior Pairs FS: Results; Protocols
French Champoionships Senior Pairs: Results
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Camille and Pavel finished 1st out of 4 in the FS, with a score of 113.27. This meant that they remained in 1st position overall, with a score of 177.06.
Unfortunately I was not able to watch LIVE, as I was concentrating on the Russian Championships. However, I have now watched them on the archived livestream.
Here is the sort of comment that I would have written about the Warm-Up for the competition thread if I had been watching LIVE:
With the SP behind them, and with there being four partnerships in the group today, the skaters knew what to do this time when being introduced. Camille and Pavel came on holding hands, and then threw them up into the air to do double waves to the audience.
I hope they take off their jackets quickly, because all four partnerships are wearing identical Team France jackets.
Camille and Pavel did a couple of laps of teh rink while stretching their arms. Thankfully, they and two of the other partnerships decided to take off their jackets early.
When we caught up with them again, the camera followed them and they did a lovely throw. We then left them, and when the camera came to focus on them again, they did another throw. But Camille had a double foot landing with this one.
I don't know what happened, but the stream jumped 25 seconds, from 3m 23s to 2m 58s.
Next time the camera focussed on them, they did a beautiful Triple Twist. And then Camille headed off on her own, leaving Pavel behind.
They did their own things for the rest of the Warm-Up, only joining up again at the gate when leaving the ice.
CaroLiza_fan
I hope they take off their jackets quickly, because all four partnerships are wearing identical Team France jackets.
Camille and Pavel did a couple of laps of teh rink while stretching their arms. Thankfully, they and two of the other partnerships decided to take off their jackets early.
When we caught up with them again, the camera followed them and they did a lovely throw. We then left them, and when the camera came to focus on them again, they did another throw. But Camille had a double foot landing with this one.
I don't know what happened, but the stream jumped 25 seconds, from 3m 23s to 2m 58s.
Next time the camera focussed on them, they did a beautiful Triple Twist. And then Camille headed off on her own, leaving Pavel behind.
They did their own things for the rest of the Warm-Up, only joining up again at the gate when leaving the ice.
CaroLiza_fan
And here is the sort of comment I would have written about the programme if I had been watching LIVE:
I love this choreography at the start.
Beautiful Triple Twist to start with.
Out of sync on Triple Salchow. Camille hand down.
Triple Toe was good, but they were both too close to the boards to attach anything to it.
Axel Lasso Lift good.
So was Backward Outside Death Spiral.
Combination Spin good
Getting very sultry.
Beautiful Throw Triple Lutz.
Beautiful Reverse Lasso Lift.
Not sure about Pavel's floor-ography in the Choreography Sequence
Beautiful Throw Triple Salchow.
And a great Lift into the finishing position.
Either Camille is bending double to be at the same level while talking to Pavel, or they are both exhausted. I'm going for the latter.
She then stood up straight, and helped her husband to the centre to take their bows. Pavel is absolutely knackered! When they reach the gate, he props himself up on the boards to allow Camille to go through the gate first.
When they arrive at the results area, Camille has been given a white rose. She is deep in conversation with Bruno. Meanwhile, Pavel is having a well deserved drink of water.
They win both the FS and overall.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Beautiful Triple Twist to start with.
Out of sync on Triple Salchow. Camille hand down.
Triple Toe was good, but they were both too close to the boards to attach anything to it.
Axel Lasso Lift good.
So was Backward Outside Death Spiral.
Combination Spin good
Getting very sultry.
Beautiful Throw Triple Lutz.
Beautiful Reverse Lasso Lift.
Not sure about Pavel's floor-ography in the Choreography Sequence
Beautiful Throw Triple Salchow.
And a great Lift into the finishing position.
Either Camille is bending double to be at the same level while talking to Pavel, or they are both exhausted. I'm going for the latter.
She then stood up straight, and helped her husband to the centre to take their bows. Pavel is absolutely knackered! When they reach the gate, he props himself up on the boards to allow Camille to go through the gate first.
When they arrive at the results area, Camille has been given a white rose. She is deep in conversation with Bruno. Meanwhile, Pavel is having a well deserved drink of water.
They win both the FS and overall.
WELL DONE CAMILLE AND PAVEL!!! CaroLiza_fan
Looking at the Protocols, there were only two issues. The second element, the Triple Salchow, was landed on the quarter. It had the second biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -1.29. This meant that it went from having the fourth lowest Base Value of the programme, to being the second lowest scoring element of the programme. It got -3 from six Judges; and -2 from Judge 4.
The third element, the Triple Toe, was supposed to have been done in combination. It had the biggest GOE hit of the programme, at -1.51, which meant that it went from having the second lowest Base Value of the programme, to being the lowest scoring element of the programme. It got -5 from two Judges; -4 from two Judges; -3 from Judge 4; and -2 from two Judges.
The remaining elements had GOE ranging from +0.07 for the fifth element, the Backwards Outside Death Spiral, to +1.40 for the fourth element, the Axel Lasso Lift. The forementioned Axel Lasso Lift already had the joint highest Base Value of the programme, so it became the highest scoring element of the programme in it's own right. Apart from a -1 from Judge 5 for the seventh element, the Throw Triple Lutz, all the Judges marks for the elements with positive GOE ranged from 0 to +3.
I don't know what exactly it was for, but they got a point deducted for a Time Violation.
Nevertheless, they had the highest total Technical Elements Score of the field, and the highest total Programme Components Score of the programme.
Camille and Pavel finished the Free Skate 4.33 points ahead of 2nd position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (PFV), and 15.60 points ahead of 3rd position, Louise EHRHARD / Matthis PELLEGRIS (PFV). The field is completed by Megan WESSENBERG / Denys STREKALIN (Anger) in 4th position, 19.88 points behind Camilel and Pavel.
Overall, Camille and Pavel finished 5.42 points ahead of 2nd position, Aurélie FAULA / Théo BELLE (PFV), and 25.71 points ahead of 3rd position, Louise EHRHARD / Matthis PELLEGRIS (PFV). The field is completed by Megan WESSENBERG / Denys STREKALIN (Anger) in 4th position, 28.4 points behind Camilel and Pavel.
This is their highest FS score since Nationals in December 2023.
I have to be honest, after Camille's injury at the NHK Trophy, I had my doubts as to whether she would be ready to compete when Nationals came around. And I had even bigger doubts as to whether they would be able to win if they did compete. But, I should have had more faith. It just proves what we have always known - Pairs girls are superhuman!
WELL DONE!!! CaroLiza_fan
@CaroLiza_fan the events were livestreamed.
SP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwFSxphKpg Kovalevs at 32:08
FP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9yhAiamW9E Kovalevs at 35:33
SP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwFSxphKpg Kovalevs at 32:08
FP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9yhAiamW9E Kovalevs at 35:33
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I know. I watched the archived livestreams the morning after each competition was held, and that was how I was able to give my own opinions.
Mind you, the Senior Pairs competitions were the only ones I did get the chance to catch up on. You know, now that you have put the idea into my head, I might go back and watch the archived livestreams of the other competitions. After all, there isn't any skating on this week, and the Christmas TV isn't very inspiring.
CaroLiza_fan
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Camille and Pavel will be back in action today at their first Major of the season, the European Championships, which this year are being held in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England.
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start at 13:00:00 GMT (14:00:00 CET / 16:00:00 MSK). So 7 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 9th partnership to start. So, third and final partnership to go in Group 3 (and final partnership to go before the second resurfacing).
The Group 3 Warm-Up is due to start at 14:07:00 GMT (15:07:00 CET / 17:07:00 MSK). So 8h 7m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 14:26:50 GMT (15:26:50 CET / 17:26:50 MSK). So 8h 26m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1068
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
The Senior Pairs SP is due to start at 13:00:00 GMT (14:00:00 CET / 16:00:00 MSK). So 7 hours from now.
Camille and Pavel will be the 9th partnership to start. So, third and final partnership to go in Group 3 (and final partnership to go before the second resurfacing).
The Group 3 Warm-Up is due to start at 14:07:00 GMT (15:07:00 CET / 17:07:00 MSK). So 8h 7m from now.
Camille and Pavel are due to start at 14:26:50 GMT (15:26:50 CET / 17:26:50 MSK). So 8h 26m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
More information in the event forum:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forums/1068
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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