How would you change the rules for jump combinations/sequences?

[4everchan]

Lots of skaters use the Walley as a transition already

 

[Mathman]

At 1991 U.S. Nationals Michael Chack did a one-foot Axel + quad Salchow combination. Alas, the quad was double-footed, Michael finished eighth and was chacked from the television coverage.

 

[Mathematician]

I was thinking more of a delayed Single Axel, or a beautiful Loop, or, as evoked in this thread or another? a Walley... Something where the jump wouldn't be there to get a maximum of rotation but to be a sort of ample respiration, or the like?

I mean, yea. I wasn't suggesting doubles or triples would be getting graded on rotation. It would just be the maximum on anything included in a "choreographic" jumping sequence like what 4everchan posted.

 

[LazyFuzai]

I think I'm not the only one who's tired of seeing those +2A+2A sequnces and +1Eu+3S combos all the time, I generally prefer +3T and +3Lo combinations aesthetically. With current rules many skaters chose to do something+1Eu+3S, something+2A+2A and then only one "normal" combination with +2T or +3T (rarely the loop). If I was to make the rules, I would do the following:

1. One combination consists of three jumps, where the second and third jump are toeloops or loops (eg. 3Lz+3T+2Lo or 3A+3T+2T or 3F+3Lo+3Lo, etc.)
2. One combination consists of two jumps, where the second jump is T or Lo (eg. 4S+3T or 3Lz+3Lo).
3. In the two combinations above, there has to be at least one loop as the second or third jump and the same for toeloop. This rule means that you can't do, for example, 4S+3T+2T and 3Lo+3T because there are no loops in the "+" parts of those combos.
4. One combination is of the form "something+1Eu+something" OR "something+Axel SEQ".

Along with this the Zayak rule would have to be changed but that's for another topic so let's not discuss it now.

Examples of valid jump combination layouts:

3Lz+3T+2T
3F+2Lo
3S+2A

3Lo+3Lo+2Lo
3Lz+2T
3F+1Eu+3S

4T+3T+3Lo
4T+2T
3A+1Eu+3F

4S+3T+2Lo
3A+4T
4Lz+3A

Your thoughts?

Its actually funny you want to see harder combination when we barely have clean skates + mens are having trouble doing two clean quads and get out of 250 points There are a lot more problems with figure skating than combination sequences for now

 

[AxelLover]

Its actually funny you want to see harder combination when we barely have clean skates + mens are having trouble doing two clean quads and get out of 250 points There are a lot more problems with figure skating than combination sequences for now

The rules I suggested do not automatically imply harder combinations. You could still do something like

3Lz+3T
3F+2T+2Lo
3S+2A

or just

3Lz+2Lo
3F+2T+2T
3S+1Eu+2S