And so far none of them have broke Jason's FS record of 154+ from 2013 Jr. Worlds (or even have been close). The closest anyone got was Boyang Jin, who scored 150+ doing THREE quads at JGPF last season.
I think it could change this season though.
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And so far none of them have broke Jason's FS record of 154+ from 2013 Jr. Worlds (or even have been close). The closest anyone got was Boyang Jin, who scored 150+ doing THREE quads at JGPF last season.
I think it could change this season though.
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This is what I was kinda trying to say as well. It's like, I'm not a fan of some huge stars (singers, actors, whatever) and really don't see the x-factor in some of them, but I can still say that they have it because so many people are drawn to them.
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The question is whether they can carry that stride as well as maintain their health going into seniors. This quad will be interesting to say the least.
Anyways I personally prefer Adam to Jason so I hope Adam makes a strong comeback at nationals this year
The Jr Guys were doing two quads in the LP. I do worry for their long term health.
I hope Adam can have a great year. (and the other "old" boys- Carriere and Abbott)
Jason has time- and hopefully, since he is being brought along in a reasonable fashion, he will stay healthy, get his quad (s) and be Nat'l Champ one day.
I hope Adam can have a great year. (and the other "old" boys- Carriere and Abbott)
Jason has time- and hopefully, since he is being brought along in a reasonable fashion, he will stay healthy, get his quad (s) and be Nat'l Champ one day.
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At the risk of sounding like a snob, I do think figure skating (especially the artistic aspect of it) is an acquired taste. I find that the kind of skaters I appreciate the most today are not the same as the ones I liked when first started watching figure skating many many years ago. Frankly, a few skaters who I used to idolize (mostly because they were "winners") when I first started watching, I find quite meh now. I grew out of themThe same as artistry. I mean I have seen a comment on youtube stating that Kovtun is the most artistic skater ever. And I am just
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I think it's alright. People's taste change all the time. It's just...I just can'tAt the risk of sounding like a snob, I do think figure skating (especially the artistic aspect of it) is an acquired taste. I find that the kind of skaters I appreciate the most today are not the same as the ones I liked when first started watching figure skating many many years ago. Frankly, a few skaters who I used to idolize (mostly because they were "winners") when I first started watching, I find quite meh now. I grew out of them
with that comment, Kovtun? Best artistic skater? 
Different people different tastes, we have to accept so, nevertheless.I think it's alright. People's taste change all the time. It's just...I just can't
How dare you not appreciate Kovtun's skating ? According to our lovely friend Chipi he could have been olympic champion right now.... if they only had send him there
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Wow that's a pretty incredible statistic that I wasn't aware of. Agreed Jason really has something special about his skating (even outside of Riverdance) that is magnetic. But hell, how many skaters out there do you think could even pull off Riverdance so convincingly?!
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Jason did. He lost the JGP at Courchevel in his final junior season to the quad-armed Boyang Jin (granted, Jason also skated badly at that event). Josh and Kovtun were both doing quads at that point as well. At the JGPF that year three of the six finalists were trying quads and Jason had only just started landing his 3A.
I think Jason's biggest advantage is his powerful charisma. I can only think of one other skater who has that level of charisma - Plushenko. They have the power to grab your attention and FORCE you to watch them. They draw you in without even trying. It's a rare gift. Not many skaters can do that.
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^^^This. If only USFA could figure out how to capitalize on this!
Endless discussions about quads, and not quads, and podium placement, can interest figure skating fans. But for those who couldn't care less about placements, rotations, and IJS/6.0, the joy that Jason radiates while skating draws them in. I don't want to watch someone who looks like they're mowing down the ice in the hunt for the almighty quad. And I don't want to watch someone who looks scared to death that they might not make the almightly quad, or loses all joy in their program when they fall in the hunt. And neither does the casual viewer.
I have not seen enough of Adam to compare him technically to Jason. But he doesn't strike me as belonging to the "pure joy" category; YMMV.
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I believe they should air a Jason Brown Special. A documentary about his life up till Sochi and a big unveiling of his new programs. That will get people behind him and watching the events that he appears in. If they portray him as an 'underdog' it would be very appealing.
I say this simply because in Japan they do specials on all the top skaters each year, some of them more than once. They even do specials on juniors and novices. It keeps the interest high. Even if it's on an obscure channel, it would be a start. American TV has a show about almost EVERYTHING. If baby beauty pageants can be on TV (yuck) surely figure skating should have more shows.
I say this simply because in Japan they do specials on all the top skaters each year, some of them more than once. They even do specials on juniors and novices. It keeps the interest high. Even if it's on an obscure channel, it would be a start. American TV has a show about almost EVERYTHING. If baby beauty pageants can be on TV (yuck) surely figure skating should have more shows.
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Jason is one of my favorites, but I cannot agree with this post.
If "they" -- whoever "they" would be?? an obscure channel in the U.S., presumably?? -- are willing to devote thirty minutes (or more) of air time to figure skating in any way, shape, or form, I think it would be a mistake to put all "their" eggs in Jason's basket. Devoting part of the special to Jason would be great, but I would prefer for at least two or three other Team USA skaters to get equal attention.
And I hate the idea of portraying Jason as an underdog. Compared to other U.S. men, he obviously is not an underdog. Among the international field, the competition is stiff, but for an audience unfamiliar with skating, Hanyu or Ten is not going to easily fit the role of Goliath.
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I see your point, but Jason could be the gateway to people getting interested in other skaters on team USA or figure skating in general. To be an underdog does not necessarily mean that the opponents need to be portrayed as 'bad'. The obstacles could be the judges manner of scoring. Or other things that are difficult in figures skating -- lack of funding etc. there are many things. Anyway, it's just an idea, if there was a TV program that covered all the skaters it would be best, of course.
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Jason became my favorite American skater this past year. I think he's brought a freshness and an excitement to men's figure skating that has been lacking for some time. Riverdance had so much charisma and was so unlike anything we'd seen in awhile and it DID captivate people who were not interested so much in figure skating and MALE figure skating in awhile. I only hope that Rohene can give him the choreography to sustain that interest. But I agree with whoever said upthread that it's too bad the USFSA can't take advantage of that new-found interest and do something with it. Personality-wise Jason has it all over Adam. But when Adam is "on" he can mesmerize a crowd. I honestly think we'll see Jason as national champ before we see Adam and I don't think Adam has too many years left to make his big move. I would be thrilled with either of them winning Nationals.
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And the reverse could be true as well.
A few years ago, my interest in Virtue/Moir videos by chance led me to start taking greater notice of "that junior guy with the ponytail," of whom I previously had known next to nothing. V/M had headlined one of the Dallas mall ice shows, and lo and behold, the smiling teen -- whose name I had yet to learn -- popped up as one of their fellow performers in the video of the finale. [LOL, I remember thinking what a lucky kid he was to hold beautiful Tessa's hand.]
So regarding our hypothetical TV special, a viewer who tunes in to see a national champ like Wagner, Gold, or Abbott could accidentally discover how enjoyable Jason also is. That's why I don't like the idea of a TV special putting all its eggs in the basket of only one U.S. skater, whether that one person would be Jason or anyone else.
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What a great idea! I did not know that such shows were aired in Japan.
Heaven knows there are so many cable channels and so much air time, "they" (and I am not being sardonic) should be able to craft a reality show. And as we all know from the zillions of Kardashian and dating while ice fishing in the nude shows, those shows aren't concerned with talent.
We know Jason has the personality and charisma to carry a show. Do the others? Who knows? But they certainly could be part of such a show, just like other reality shows where the focus starts out on a group, but usually one or two break out due to personality and talent.
Too bad it's a pipe dream. But when it airs I think it should include the 3X3 triples As....
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The reason Japan has so many shows featuring Skaters is because the sport is much loved over there and its profitable. Its a normal occurrence for skaters (of all level) to go on talk shows, games shows, and etc as promotion.
The networks in the US don't have anything to gain and much to lose since it probably won't draw in enough viewers. What they want is profit. The only time FS is relevant to the public is during the Olympics and that when they produce those fluff pieces to get people hyped up. Other than that, networks have no reason to invest their own money in order to get people interested in Figure Skating.
The networks in the US don't have anything to gain and much to lose since it probably won't draw in enough viewers. What they want is profit. The only time FS is relevant to the public is during the Olympics and that when they produce those fluff pieces to get people hyped up. Other than that, networks have no reason to invest their own money in order to get people interested in Figure Skating.
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If they were going to do a show to try and increase the popularity, I'd like to see them follow the men around for a season and focus on how hard they work and how fit they are. Just looking at their gym hours alone would probably help do away with the "sissy boy skaters" mentality so frequently found in Western countries. Or a "greatest athlete" style show with a figure skater up against football players and the like doing various tests.
And I'm sorry, but Jason's story just isn't that "good"! He doesn't have a major injury that could have been career-ending that he had to fight his way back from (like Aaron and Farris), he doesn't have the "rags-to-riches" story like you could use for, say, Rohene or Plushy. It just so happens that he is extremely popular, but that doesn't really make for great tv. People want drama and a real underdog; Jason just doesn't have that.
And I'm sorry, but Jason's story just isn't that "good"! He doesn't have a major injury that could have been career-ending that he had to fight his way back from (like Aaron and Farris), he doesn't have the "rags-to-riches" story like you could use for, say, Rohene or Plushy. It just so happens that he is extremely popular, but that doesn't really make for great tv. People want drama and a real underdog; Jason just doesn't have that.
Jason is not an underdog just an amazingly gifted skater as per his millions of you tube hits. He transcends. Aaron is striking. Farris is gifted. So far they don't have the it factor that hits out to millions of fans. Like Max's skates but he is not Jason who reminds me of John Curry.
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