Jason Brown

[Yatagarasu]

Uh, what did I come back to? (hello everyone)

Hmmm, I am going back and forth on this one. I think both Jason and his team can see the writing on the wall when it comes to the Olympics. Getting that spot is going to be very difficult, the competition is fierce and of course, there's the usual politicking. So in that way, Jason has nothing to lose. He can go all out and then let the chips fall where they may.

On the other hand, two quads in the SP and presumably, at least those two, if not three, in the FS is a massive change, massive. It's not just the big question of landing those quads in competition, it is the program as a whole. The stamina of course but then also the rhythm of the program takes getting used to because it changes with all those quads added in. So he may be landing those quads in practice but not only does he have to land them in competition now, but he has to get the rest of the program too, that is affected.

Another question is are we talking about the 4T and 4S or perhaps, are we talking about a 4T and 4F? The Sal can be tricky, so I do wonder.

In any case, if he's going down this road, then I say bring it all out and bring it all out as soon as possible. WTT for one, bring out the 4T in both the SP and the FS. Then as soon as possible, start getting those programs out. Shows, small competitions. Get the mileage in where the pressure doesn't exist. Fingers crossed, got to give Jason props for going for it, his team too of course. It's a good one, so they'll know how to take care of him as of course, more quads automatically means higher risk. Exciting times!

 

[StitchMonkey]

When Jason was asked in the pre-worlds teleconference what his next quad/quads would be he answered very emphatically "FLIP! Sal and Flip". So I think we may be seeing a 4F from him sooner than we think. The way he answered seemed to show eagerness and excitement that we don't see from Jason with quads usually.

Before he can do two in the SP he needs to at least consistently stand up on a UR quad in order to get the second jump on... so the SP will take some work.

But multiple quads in the free... that is pretty doable actually. I think he is at least to the point of being passed downgraded regularly... and really even with a fall a UR 4T is not that costly for Jason as he does not let it get to him. Even if the 4T is not there yet, it is close enough that if his 4S is similar, go ahead and stick it in the FS. The guy does seem to rise to the pressure his is met with... I think the 4S or 4F would be fine to add anytime now.

 

[katmari]

Kori discusses the quad at about the 52 minute mark of the Ice Talk interview and here's what I picked up:

• They are choreographing the short with 2 quads and are going to see if they can jell in time for the beginning of the season.
• Kori loves the quad sal and Jason thinks the quad toe is the money move -- She likes what she sees with the sal and Jason likes the way the toe feels.
• Kori thinks both jumps are absolutely going to be ready and hopefully he will be willing to do them early in the season.

If Jason is skating to Hamilton and lands the 2 quads in the SP, this will be the perfect song for the World Turned Upside Down

 

[Tavi...]

One of the things she said is that right now they're in "maintenance mode." That suggests to me we'll see one quad in each program and that he won't attempt two in SP here. Of course I've been wrong plenty of times before! It wonder if he will switch out the 4T for the 4S in one program, though.

I thought it was really interesting that he feels more comfortable with the 4T but she thinks the 4S is better. At Skate America practice, he did try the 4S a few times. They looked < to << if I recall and I think but not sure he fell on all of them. Maybe Arriba will remember better than I do? Anyway, I guess we'll find out more soon!

And re programs: gosh, so curious, can't wait! I hope he gets really good ones that don't totally abandon everything we loved this year, even if they're more fun/crowd pleasing / dramatic, etc.

 

[el henry]

I also find the quad talk intriguing (and scary, I' d love to :dev2: haters, but we still need those *programs*....

But I loved the story, which I had not heard before, of young Kori telling Jason's parents that baby Jason should go to three lessons a week. And Brown père, seeing his money fly away like so many skating parents, saying "come on, it's not like we're going to the Olympics here"

 

[Yatagarasu]

I thought it was really interesting that he feels more comfortable with the 4T but she thinks the 4S is better.

I wonder at this point how much of his quad problem is actually mental. It's been a while and the whole talk, from everywhere, about the no quad and the pressure to get it so really, I would not be surprised if when he lands the 4T, the 4S is suddenly not a huge issue and it goes much more smoothly. It is possible it's a better jump but if he's stuck in a certain head-space he may not see it.
One more reason IMO to try the quad in both the SP and the FS during WTT. The second that baby is ratified, it'll be a huge weight off his shoulders.

 

[NoNameFace]

regarding quads talk...in all honesty, I have a lot of trust and faith in Kori's words, the spirits and ambition flowing in all team and confidence in Jason who without a doubt will try his best to get those ambitions into action. I think that since it comes from Kori herself, Jason will be only motivated by her confidence in him, not crumbled under unnecessary pressure. And this is quite a good moment for such 'declarations' in my opinion - Jason is now on a really high wave I feel, both physically and mentally, especially after huge Worlds success (haters gonna hate anyway and call it whatever they want, but audiences, commentaries and live reports do not lie), with WTT on horizon as a great opportunity to challenge himself with those quads.

I feel like this is somehow a 'natural' next step, challenge for Jason, no doubt it is 'influenced' in some way by immense raise of competitiveness in US Men's field, but last season, recent Worlds proved that Jason has a huge capital to build on, only going up. There's nothing to lose, and I bet he's feeling excited about this challenge - one of many he already had, mainly posed from his critics which he overcame the best way he could - by confidence in his skating, by having such a team behind his back. Team who again wants to challenge Jason and themselves, but only in positive way.

 

[beki]

If Jason starts landing quads, all I can think of is a phrase the British Eurosport commentators use: he will really "set the cat amongst the pigeons."

 

[karne]

I also find the quad talk intriguing (and scary, I' d love to :dev2: haters, but we still need those *programs*....

But I loved the story, which I had not heard before, of young Kori telling Jason's parents that baby Jason should go to three lessons a week. And Brown père, seeing his money fly away like so many skating parents, saying "come on, it's not like we're going to the Olympics here"

Oh, hadn't you heard that story before? It was doing the rounds after Jason was picked for the Olympics in 2014. Although I had thought it was when Kori said Jason needed to start skating before school as well as after.

 

[el henry]

Holiday humor:

It's an Easter Miracle! Jason invents a new jump:

According to NBC, watch Jason's stunning Triple Dip-Triple Toe

Actually, I have absolutely no cause to make fun of NBC, I can barely tell if a jump is rotated and I sure can't tell them all. I know when they're landed. (ETA: Unless there is a triple dip jump and this has been discussed before?)

I'm just glad they posted something so positive about Jason. And it does support what I have long said, that "people out there" don't care if it's a triple, a quad, a Rittenberger-Walleylooper-Euler special. They want to see good skating.

They want to see Jason:yes:

 

[Tavi...]

Holiday humor:

It's an Easter Miracle! Jason invents a new jump:

According to NBC, watch Jason's stunning Triple Dip-Triple Toe

Actually, I have absolutely no cause to make fun of NBC, I can barely tell if a jump is rotated and I sure can't tell them all. I know when they're landed. (ETA: Unless there is a triple dip jump and this has been discussed before?)

I'm just glad they posted something so positive about Jason. And it does support what I have long said, that "people out there" don't care if it's a triple, a quad, a Rittenberger-Walleylooper-Euler special. They want to see good skating.

They want to see Jason:yes:

Was this a tweet? Link isn't working for me.

 

[el henry]

Was this a tweet? Link isn't working for me.

oops, : Let's try it the old fashioned way:

http://www.nbcsports.com/video/jason-browns-stunning-triple-dip-and-triple-toe

 

[TMC]

I can't stop laughing at 'triple dip'

 

[elbkup]

I wonder at this point how much of his quad problem is actually mental. It's been a while and the whole talk, from everywhere, about the no quad and the pressure to get it so really, I would not be surprised if when he lands the 4T, the 4S is suddenly not a huge issue and it goes much more smoothly. It is possible it's a better jump but if he's stuck in a certain head-space he may not see it.
One more reason IMO to try the quad in both the SP and the FS during WTT. The second that baby is ratified, it'll be a huge weight off his shoulders.

Karen Chen said her mentor KristI Yamaguchi gave her some advice that helped alot before Worlds... Kristi told her to "Skate Dumb"... meaning, I believe, let go, trust your trainIng and your body will do the work for you.. don't overthink the process. Because Jason landed quads successfully in practice sessions at Worlds, he was probably "in the moment", alot harder to do in competition where a random thought however brief can interrupt the flow... in the comp he got up after the quad fall so fluidly.. the grace timing is there.. seems that's where he's at right now (the triple axel was the same and now he pretty much does that jump without thinking..)

 

[Tavi...]

oops, : Let's try it the old fashioned way:

http://www.nbcsports.com/video/jason-browns-stunning-triple-dip-and-triple-toe

Thank you! Seriously funny typo (I was imaging him eating a very tall ice cream cone.......and then doing a 3T). And yeah, it is nice he got featured in a positive way.

I actually can't believe WTT is next week but he's on his way!

https://instagram.com/p/BS9LxLaghVp/

 

[Yatagarasu]

I actually can't believe WTT is next week but he's on his way!
https://instagram.com/p/BS9LxLaghVp/

Well he looks yummy. I mean, in fine spirits

 

[Arriba627]

I actually can't believe WTT is next week but he's on his way!

https://instagram.com/p/BS9LxLaghVp/

Hard to believe they're already traveling again! I'm exhausted just thinking about it. Sure do wonder if they fly coach class! I have to believe his Japanese fans are thrilled to see him again.

 

[karne]

I actually can't believe WTT is next week but he's on his way!

https://instagram.com/p/BS9LxLaghVp/

Hard to believe they're already traveling again! I'm exhausted just thinking about it. Sure do wonder if they fly coach class! I have to believe his Japanese fans are thrilled to see him again.

Looking at that picture, my guess is that they are flying business, or at least some form of premium economy. Way too spacious for a regular economy seat, even on a long-haul international flight.

 

[jacky]

hello everybody. and happy easter weekend I love Jason and good luck two team usa at wtt next week I cant wait.

 

[ice coverage]

Looking at that picture, my guess is that they are flying business, or at least some form of premium economy. Way too spacious for a regular economy seat, even on a long-haul international flight.

:agree: Yes, they are in Polaris Business Class, which is the highest class that United offers on Boeing 787s.

Hope Jason and Nathan (and their coaches) have a great time at WTT.