Ladies LP - actual competition
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Then they should stop doing it.
Or make the whole judging system more transparent and rational.
No one can prove the judges are doing it in the first place. It is just an excuse that people make because they (a) are angry at the new system or (b) think personally and subjectively that some skaters did better than others. And even though the system may be a little flawed, every skater has to abide by it so technically it is fair and rational.
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Yu-Na's first Triple Lutz got downgraded, plus the last part of the combo. That is unusual. I want to see that again! So just 5 Triples for her, two of those 5 are Triple Toes - two Triple Toes give you about the same as one Triple Axel. Mystery solved.
She never repeated the 3F, not since 2007 I think. She always went for two 3 Lutzes and two 3 Toes.
Indeed. Does that mean they're not doing it though?
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Thank you for clarifying that!!! :yes:
the term is held up - this means they give higher component scores to the skaters they want to see in the top - it is their way (the judges) of manipulating the scores - they give 8 for skating skills to 1 skater and then 6.25 to the next - have you not been watching- it is they way they can still control scores - even though the elements have the same score - 3loop is 3loop - they grade the skatiing skill. choreography- interpretation - goe-transitons etc of the skaters - this way - they can still mark up those skaters they like and mark down those they don't - still manipulating results - not as bad as previously - no kicking under the table but still - how they want them - in the end - it's not right - but this is skating and we all know it is done - it is a judged sport - what do we expect?
You really have to actually see skaters skate in front of you to judge instead of looking at the video. There are something about Mao and Caroline. They have something to pull audiences in. They are so smooth and soft on the ice even though they may have some technical flows in their jumps. I can watch them skate hours and hours. I believe that
the judges can see that superb quality in them, which is hard to see on tv or computer screen.
Anyway, congratulations to Joannie, Yu-na, Mao and Caroline.
the judges can see that superb quality in them, which is hard to see on tv or computer screen.
Anyway, congratulations to Joannie, Yu-na, Mao and Caroline.
To me the 3f/3t looked rotated in the slo mo. Didn't pay attention for the 2nd one. Was obvious to me though that the 2lo in ther 3 jump series was cheated.
And Joannie didn't get credit for the 3s in the sequence. Her score would have only been about 4 points or so higher though...
Well since judges shouldn't be comparing each element to other skaters and just judging it as they see it, your comment doesn't work (even if it was sarcastic).Only 0.60 GOE for that 3A? Did they compare it to other ladies' 3As?
Also, usually when there is a blatant popped jump judges give -GOE - Mao got 0 GOE (only 0.8 points, but still!)
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What the...
One judge gave +1 for Mao's first 1A.
I don't know what to say about this....
One judge gave +1 for Mao's first 1A.
I don't know what to say about this....
Even if it was, yeah.
And I was not happy with JA's 3A GOE in another thread! But they were way more generous with guys.
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Alissa skates clean, perhaps better than Nationals, but this time she's at the bottom of the pack. It seems to me that the US judges were propping her up. Possibly they were also keeping Caroline down.
So if the US gets 2 spots for Worlds, we'll all sigh and say, "If only Caroline had skated there for us ..."
So if the US gets 2 spots for Worlds, we'll all sigh and say, "If only Caroline had skated there for us ..."
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No, it does not. But being a judge, you are supposed to look at everything objectively and give your honest score. As a fan, one should respect the decisions the judges make because if they already think people are saying they are being bribed, they are more likely to do it anyway. Also, almost all of the time the blames are made by people feeling angry or confused about the results of a competition, and fusing their feelings into those statements-maybe without even realizing it. Once the scores are in, they're in. No amount of complaining is going to change what already happened, so one might as well have faith in judges rather than accusing them of things they probably aren't even doing.
I rest my case on holding up skaters - what other lady would get a +GOE for an element that doesn't even count
You gotta be kidding me. Downgrade on Yuna's 3Lz and 2L? Well, I need to watch her performance again to check it but usually Yuna's combination 2L is really, really more rotated than most of other ladies. I remember her 3Lz in combination had somewhat shaky landing but was it underrotated? I don't think so. HD clip needed ASAP!!
Looks like every jumps of Joannie are counted. Then why is her score so low?? There is no way her performance should score lower than Mao's. Joannie's technical elements were better and please don't tell me today's Mao's performance was better than Joannies in PCS wise. I am really pissed!!
Looks like every jumps of Joannie are counted. Then why is her score so low?? There is no way her performance should score lower than Mao's. Joannie's technical elements were better and please don't tell me today's Mao's performance was better than Joannies in PCS wise. I am really pissed!!
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