Rachael Flatt's Downgraded Combination
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Its not bashing Kimmie. I do think shes a better skater then Emily except Emilys spirals are better but Kimmie's performance last night was a little shaky in many areas. Its unfortunate for Rachel because her combo was clearly clean and Kimmie's wasnt. I have seen Kimmie do clean triple triples but this was not one. She didnt have the speed on the landing of the lutz for it to be easy for her to complete it cleanly. Its only critisizing her performance and the triple triple which was clearly not one. I like watching Kimmie and think shes an awsome talent but last nights performance i thought was a little lackluster. It wasnt bad but definently wasnt her best.
But I found a disturbing pattern that people are so quick to either pile on or hype a skater. After watching Emily's performance, i don't understand what the fuss is really about. That's NOT 'carman'! She is really bad. I think Kimmie did much better that Emily.
I thought Emily was much better in relating to the audience...I guess she's not exactly the most convincing Carmen but that section of the Sarasate Fantasy, I think it fits her like a glove. Kimmie's music...not so much. She's not really "soft" enough yet to really convey all of the nuances in the music. Plus Kimmie's spins and spirals were off, and her triple-triple was definitely questionable...I'm expecting that the LP will be a resounding win for Meissner but in the short I don't think she should have had such a big lead. I would have either had her or Bebe barely in first, and Emily not too far behind.
Rachael's triple-triple was definitely better than Meissner's...as soon as I saw Kimmie's combo I thought "downgrade" and I was really surprised when it wasn't. Rachael's wasn't nearly as bad.
Rachael's triple-triple was definitely better than Meissner's...as soon as I saw Kimmie's combo I thought "downgrade" and I was really surprised when it wasn't. Rachael's wasn't nearly as bad.
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Heaven forbid someone take a different interpretation to the music than the usual tired cliche.
~Z
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Stop the bashing.
Kimmie was bland
Emily was determined
Rachael was cheerful
Bebe was divine.
The SP is over! a new figure skating princess of the USA will be heralded tomorrow.
Joe
Kimmie was bland
Emily was determined
Rachael was cheerful
Bebe was divine.
The SP is over! a new figure skating princess of the USA will be heralded tomorrow.
Joe
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Lisa Ervin as a Technical Specialist - what a joke! She couldn't get her own programs right (esp. at 93 Nat'ls in Phoenix) and now she's a TECH Specialist??
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Being a sports referee is a demanding and thankless job. Whatever you call, half the people will disagree.
Making an incorrect call doesn't mean you're an idiot. Messing up a performance 14 years ago doesn't mean you are an incompetent judge of technical elements.
Making an incorrect call doesn't mean you're an idiot. Messing up a performance 14 years ago doesn't mean you are an incompetent judge of technical elements.
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Even more disappointing from the USFS International assignment page, Flatt is not being sent to Jr Worlds....top three Junior ladies are assigned, rather than Flatt. Shame on the USFS.
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I don't see how anyone can say that Ashley Wagner didn't earn her spot on the junior worlds team.
Besides finishing third at U.S. junior nationals, Wagner competed on the full ISU Junior Grand Prix circuit. She won each of the two evenmts she was assigned to, scoring the two highest totals of anyone in the world except Caroline Zhang.
She won the Courchevel event with a score of 134.95, the Hague event with 133.98 and the silver medal in the Junrior Grand Prix Final with a score of 142.01. (Recall that the potential scores for junior programs are lower because of the smaller number of required elements and shorter skating times).
The shame would have been if Ashley's season had been brushed aside because of one pretty good performance at the senior level by Rachael.
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I am not saying that Wagner's season should be dismissed but ......Flatt had good summer events. And, despite the injury this fall and had to WD from the JGP series, she worked her way back through qual events to nationals. Outside of BeBe who I believe is also still age eligible for Jr Worlds, Flatt was the second senior lady in line to go to Jr Worlds. Why would USFS dimiss her accomplishments this year as well?
Yes, Jr ladies have one less element than Sr ladies (a difference of one spin) so the point totals are not that much different. Hard to dismiss Flatt's performances at Nationals, esp the SP and her 5th place finish as a Sr. From our perspective, what would be the better team to send? Flatt does have some international experience (Triglav and a NAC) but because of the age issues, could not do the JGP after Novice. And, to be fair, she has also has competed head to head with Zhang and Wagner for a couple of years and has placed above them.
It is just too bad that there were not four slots available as I think all four of these girls...Mirai, Caroline, Ashley and Rachael have something to bring to the table in terms of their skating. It is just that Flatt has ended on the short end of things with international assignments because of age, injury and most likely age again (as Wagner is older and can do Sr level events next season).. Hard to get Intl experience if they don't assign them to Flatt)
