So agree!
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Gracie -- wow! So happy for her! I really like her skating and she is seeming more natural by the performance.
Ashley -- never been a huge fan but am heartbroken for her.
Mirai -- hurray! Still think she could show more life, and also PLEASE, Mirai, finish your moves, esp. in your arms. Don't just let your arms flop/drop as you finish your jumps and elements. Makes things look half-hearted.
Still, so happy to see this Mirai.
Polina -- despite the technical arsenal, just looks juniorish to me. Can't get excited about her yet -- will be fun to see her develop.
Despite what is "on paper" about the Olympic team selection process, the team will be the 1,2, and 3 finishers. Gracie, Polina, Mirai. I think that's what USFS and the athletes want, and anyway, if they did it otherwise, they'd be open to lawsuits.
Ashley -- never been a huge fan but am heartbroken for her.
Mirai -- hurray! Still think she could show more life, and also PLEASE, Mirai, finish your moves, esp. in your arms. Don't just let your arms flop/drop as you finish your jumps and elements. Makes things look half-hearted.
Still, so happy to see this Mirai.
Polina -- despite the technical arsenal, just looks juniorish to me. Can't get excited about her yet -- will be fun to see her develop.
Despite what is "on paper" about the Olympic team selection process, the team will be the 1,2, and 3 finishers. Gracie, Polina, Mirai. I think that's what USFS and the athletes want, and anyway, if they did it otherwise, they'd be open to lawsuits.
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Sorry if I have to choose between Ashley and Mirai, I want Ashley to go to Sochi. History should not repeat.
I hope Gracie dynasty has begun, to end the long years of top American lady without a 3-3.
I hope Gracie dynasty has begun, to end the long years of top American lady without a 3-3.
I don't know what to tell you. Ashley was terrible. She was beaten fair and square. If it were my decision alone, I wouldn't bump anyone for that performance.
I think that if they decide to give someone a bye based on winning a medal at the GPF--which I have no problem with--it should be decided before Nationals. That way, if nothing else, the contenders know how many spots are available, and that the person who comes in 3rd probably won't be moving on.
The sad fact is, Ashley is not a former world champion or Olympic medalist, like Daisuke Takahashi. She is probably not likely to medal at the Olympics. I can see what the rationale would be to put her on the team, but in my opinion, that would be a mistake. She blew it.
I think that if they decide to give someone a bye based on winning a medal at the GPF--which I have no problem with--it should be decided before Nationals. That way, if nothing else, the contenders know how many spots are available, and that the person who comes in 3rd probably won't be moving on.
The sad fact is, Ashley is not a former world champion or Olympic medalist, like Daisuke Takahashi. She is probably not likely to medal at the Olympics. I can see what the rationale would be to put her on the team, but in my opinion, that would be a mistake. She blew it.
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2010 all over again. I was okay with the fall on the 3toe, but she just wasn't into it. She was two footing the whole program. I literally started tearing up when she fell on the loop. Hmmm. I'm so glad I wasn't there to see it live. It's heartbreaking.
The only solution I have is above: Olympics- Gold, Nagasu, Wagner Worlds-Gold, Edmunds, Nagasu
The only solution I have is above: Olympics- Gold, Nagasu, Wagner Worlds-Gold, Edmunds, Nagasu
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It's one of those things that makes complete sense to base it off of multiple events, but no matter what someone's going to be upset and it stinks.
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Gracie -- wow! So happy for her! I really like her skating and she is seeming more natural by the performance.
Ashley -- never been a huge fan but am heartbroken for her.
Mirai -- hurray! Still think she could show more life, and also PLEASE, Mirai, finish your moves, esp. in your arms. Don't just let your arms flop/drop as you finish your jumps and elements. Makes things look half-hearted.
Still, so happy to see this Mirai.
Polina -- despite the technical arsenal, just looks juniorish to me. Can't get excited about her yet -- will be fun to see her develop.
Despite what is "on paper" about the Olympic team selection process, the team will be the 1,2, and 3 finishers. Gracie, Polina, Mirai. I think that's what USFS and the athletes want, and anyway, if they did it otherwise, they'd be open to lawsuits.
Ashley -- never been a huge fan but am heartbroken for her.
Mirai -- hurray! Still think she could show more life, and also PLEASE, Mirai, finish your moves, esp. in your arms. Don't just let your arms flop/drop as you finish your jumps and elements. Makes things look half-hearted.
Still, so happy to see this Mirai.
Polina -- despite the technical arsenal, just looks juniorish to me. Can't get excited about her yet -- will be fun to see her develop.
Despite what is "on paper" about the Olympic team selection process, the team will be the 1,2, and 3 finishers. Gracie, Polina, Mirai. I think that's what USFS and the athletes want, and anyway, if they did it otherwise, they'd be open to lawsuits.
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Exactly. What would be the point of sending her to Sochi with that, garbage?
For those of us who didn't get to see Rachael's skate, if someone has it would you please post a link to it somewhere? I'd love to see her last skate (in competition).
And I realize this is petty, but in watching T & J talking before the Ladies FS (on NBC's broadcast) I'm totally curious. Has Tara had surgery? Or her wisdom teeth just out (though that seems possible given all the talking she was going and how many days she's been in Boston!) Or maybe it's just me...but her cheeks looked totally huge and swollen to me. Am I seeing things? Or did I miss something? And yes, as I said, I realize it's petty I just was so shocked when I looked up and saw her!
And I realize this is petty, but in watching T & J talking before the Ladies FS (on NBC's broadcast) I'm totally curious. Has Tara had surgery? Or her wisdom teeth just out (though that seems possible given all the talking she was going and how many days she's been in Boston!) Or maybe it's just me...but her cheeks looked totally huge and swollen to me. Am I seeing things? Or did I miss something? And yes, as I said, I realize it's petty I just was so shocked when I looked up and saw her!
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Right now is about the time I wish Nagasu was still with Frank Carroll. Who is going to politik for her???? Or I wish she had an attorney father like a former Olympian who was on the cusp due to a controversial decision. I think Nagasu is going to be the sacrificial lamb, though Polina really should be the one. She's not the skater the others are. Yet. She'll be great, but just jumps shouldn't just get you to Olys since she'll do nothing there. I can't imagine what the committee is thinking. This is reminding me of gymnastics when Kim Kelly (?) in 88(?)/92(?) who made the team was voted off due to a 'committee decision' in favor of an athlete or two who ended up doing nothing at the Games anyway but had good past results.
According to Christine Brennan of USA today Ashley is going to be picked on her body of work according to her souces who spoke anomity..USFSA has stated that all week that was the criteria.There is also something different this the Team concept to take in consideration.Ashley just had an off night.
Uhhhh... Inflation aside, Mirai's score from a similar performance wasn't that much different score wise.
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All the girls aspiring for a medal are wearing blue dresses. Makes me wonder if Kostner herself will change her Bolero costume to blue...
I'm feeling now that Ashley is looking likely to be left off the team. USFSA has never liked to get blood on their hands in such a way and it's harsh but true that Ashley is likely fighting for a top five berth at best. I don't know. Given that this is how things have always been done it seems the most understandable way to protect hurt feelings or any other negatives (lawsuits?). tbh, though, if Polina's PCs had been anywhere in the same zipcode of what she pulls in jrs they wouldn't have this mess to deal with at all.
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:yay:Gracie :yay::yay:
I've stayed up all night but it worth it.
I've stayed up all night but it worth it.
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Alright, see I completely disagree with you. I love Ashley, her skating, her attitude, etc. But this was NOT an off night. An "off night" would be Kwan in 1997 Nationals. You can tell when someone for whatever reason (a cold, flu, or sheer panic, etc) has an off night. Ashley was into the program, and muffed up most of her jumps. It didn't seem to be an off night as much as a "Damn I didn't do it!" night. I am sad to say this, but she did not earn it. Again. The thrill of victory and agony of defeat thing....
Wouldn't have put it exactly that way, but I agree. No transitions, little choreography, and the Olympic judges' last memory of a Bond program had energy, commitment, and a skater who seemed like she cared. I just don't see anything about Mirai that suggests she could fight for a medal. At least Polina has the TES to fight for top 8. Her presentation isn't far behind the Russian girls to whom she is compared. Don't we also have to look to the future as well?
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