The rules were interpreted so that kovtun or voronov would not have been able to replace plushenko.
Stolbova/Klimov out of Worlds
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The rules were interpreted so that kovtun or voronov would not have been able to replace plushenko.
What the heck...? This doesn't make sense.
If they're not injured, not splitting... isn't a silver/bronze better than nothing? (Heck, even fourth place isn't worse than nothing).
I get needing to prepare for next season, but why skip the most important competition of the season? I mean, if they're five-time World champions like S/S, it makes sense to skip it if they don't feel ready... but for all we know, this could be their best chance to win Worlds. A perfect S/K could've beaten what D/R put out at 4CC.
If they're not injured, not splitting... isn't a silver/bronze better than nothing? (Heck, even fourth place isn't worse than nothing).
I get needing to prepare for next season, but why skip the most important competition of the season? I mean, if they're five-time World champions like S/S, it makes sense to skip it if they don't feel ready... but for all we know, this could be their best chance to win Worlds. A perfect S/K could've beaten what D/R put out at 4CC.
Good lord, there's a lot of ridiculous discussion here... it's very logical. They had a horrible Euros... they were beaten by their fellow countrymen(who may be close to retirement...)... they have already won a World's silver... they are not the favorites for Gold... the event is in China and Pairs is their marquee event(I wouldn't be surprised if an arrangement was made)... and increasing their tech content takes time and I'm guessing it may not be going so well thus far.
It's true it makes no sense! The only way it could possibly make any sense is stuff that's already being said and that they onlywin if d/r makes mistakes . That does them. No favors because they are depicted as weak.!
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Don't know why I am not super surprised. Since they rose to the scene last season, I liked Stolbova's composure at competitions. But recently, I feel she is just too cool to the extent of being cold. Before they reached the current level a few years ago, their throws and twists looked very labored to me, and in the past few competitions, I kind of see that coming back, perhaps because she is not as thin as last season.
This season's perfect S/K will never beat this season's perfect D/R. They knew it and were actually vocal about it during Grand Prix.
I suspect that not that D/R influenced this decision but a very strong showing by K/S and by slew of Chinese teams. They are afraid they won't even get on the podium in Shanghai and also lose out to their teammates.
I suspect that not that D/R influenced this decision but a very strong showing by K/S and by slew of Chinese teams. They are afraid they won't even get on the podium in Shanghai and also lose out to their teammates.
What an arrangement?
Do you think Pang/Tong, who recently trained in Moscow asked them not to compete to strenghen their own medal hopes? What a conspiracy.
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I don't know what kind of attitude she has in training life... but it was pretty clear to me what kind she had during that event.
Were you somehow confused as to how that looked? Can you not imagine how he must have felt?
"He managed to deal with her so far" Are you serious? That's the basis for him continuing a long-term partnership with someone who acted that way on a global stage? He's manged to put up with it so far?
As has been brought up, it's not even clear that there is even a split to be discussed, but it's a fan message board. In the face of such an odd turn of events, we can hardly be blamed for engaging in speculation.
One thing we all seem to agree on though... just skipping out on the WC is a strange. If a similar circumstance has happened before with such a highly ranked and respected pair, I don't remember it.
Well, them getting out pretty much ensures China will get a medal... and that wouldn't be a completely sure thing if they were skating.
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I think what's really strange is that they're planning to come back in next year's Euros and not compete in the GP series
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My thoughts exactly!
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It's sad news, but I am super glad we'll see wonderful programs from Astakhova/Rogonov once more! I enjoyed them so much at Rostelecom cup!
Edit: I don't think they withdrew because they don't want to lose. They just want to step back for a while so that they have more time to prepare new tech. Mozer's team is really strategic about it and they set their goal for the next Olympics already. Probably, that's a smart decision in long-term perspective. But a sad one for the fans
Edit: I don't think they withdrew because they don't want to lose. They just want to step back for a while so that they have more time to prepare new tech. Mozer's team is really strategic about it and they set their goal for the next Olympics already. Probably, that's a smart decision in long-term perspective. But a sad one for the fans
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Wow, this is a huge surprise and now assures China of a medal and most likely two. D and R will have to contend with nerves and the Chinese. Wouldn't it be wonderful if K and S won gold ( I say this as P and T have world titles and oly medals so it would be nice kind of the forgotten team pulled it together and won gold.
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what is really interesting is that Russia remains competitive despite really losing their no. 1 and 2 in ice dancing, pairs and ladies. Who would have thought.
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Deputat could probably be available. I think it would be logical for him to dump Bazarova for her given the opportunity, I am sorry.
Word.
Yeah to me something about this is not 100% adding up. I don't see what they'd have to gain by concealing a split (unless the RusFed and their coach are frantically trying to do anything they can to undo a split, which frankly, is not impossible, but is so unlikely as to be not worth seriously considering at this time. Maybe one of them is having mental issues of some kind. But it is odd.
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No way, SB. I'm not a huge fan of D/R from a stylistic point of view, but they have truly advanced the sport, in my opinion. They have really, really raised the level of pairs skating technically, and I think their programs have been game-changers because of it.
They deserve this WC, and I hope they get it.
After that, all bets are off, as other couples will be working their tails off to match their TES.
I actually agree with SB in this case. Kavaguti/Smirnov have the most brilliant LP, and they've been close a few times but never got it together. It would be a joy to finally see them bring it. And, imo, they are every bit as technically daring as D/R. They tossed around that throw 4S for years, braved numerous injuries, and are still skating quite well at an age/condition where most people would've called it quits. If they go clean, they would make excellent World champions.
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I think that pretty much sums it up.
Or, If We Can't Automatically Win, We're Not Gonna Play
In either case
