Whats going on with Kimmie?!?!
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I just watched Kimmie's LP on youtube. It was difficult to watch. But I gotta tellya, her brave smiles waiting for her marks were OK by me(sniff!). Still loveya, Kimmie! See you at Nationals, honey.
We've seen this time and again with ladies skaters. Just because most girls go through puberty at 12/13 doesn't mean that necessarily applies in sports. Girls who do a high level of athletic sport at an early age traditionally mature later than their contemporaries. Tara Lipinski anyone??? Seriously when Kimmie won Worlds she had the body of a 12 year old pretty much. She has really filled out this season and while she's getting taller, her hips are really filling out and that means MAJOR trouble for triple jumps.
The fact that we're seeing more and more skaters of Asian ethnicity get to the top and stay there isn't a fluke. Their body types are traditionally more petite with small breasts and hips. It's just genetics.
Who knows if Kimmie can get through this? It may take another season to fully get back her jumps. I'm just not that convinced that her jump technique was so sound in the first place to be able to hang onto them.
The fact that we're seeing more and more skaters of Asian ethnicity get to the top and stay there isn't a fluke. Their body types are traditionally more petite with small breasts and hips. It's just genetics.
Who knows if Kimmie can get through this? It may take another season to fully get back her jumps. I'm just not that convinced that her jump technique was so sound in the first place to be able to hang onto them.
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She's a young lady now - not just the polite way of saying girl in figure skating. Pretty face, lovely figure, intelligent, athletic. What more could a guy want?
As for figure skating, she has been going through some heavy times this year. There have been a few warm suggestions here on this thread. Of course, there are the snarky remarks too.
Getting through a slump is not easy - ask Joubert, Lambiel. However, it's her decision to push through or not. We can only suggest and hope,
Joe
As for figure skating, she has been going through some heavy times this year. There have been a few warm suggestions here on this thread. Of course, there are the snarky remarks too.
Getting through a slump is not easy - ask Joubert, Lambiel. However, it's her decision to push through or not. We can only suggest and hope,
Joe
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I wish for the best for Kimmie. Life in figure skating reaches a whole different level once you've been on top and those expectations don't go away overnight. Hang in there, Kimmie!
Yes she has grown into a lovely looking young woman with a personality to match. I really appreciate the attention she's paid to the non-jump elements in her skating. I hope she and her coach can figure out how to solve the jump problems. It hurts as a fan to see her having these problems in her programs. I like her skating and her grit. I wish her the best as she prepares for the rest of the season and beyond.
I do worry about the US women maintaining those three spots. That magic number 13 is seeming a little less likely at this point. Nats is in a few weeks so that should give us a better picture of the prospects.
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High competitive figure skaters rarely go through puberty at 12 or 13... more likely around 16-17 and for some at 18. Once a girl gets her period, there is still a 2-year period where the body goes through changes before stabilizing.
I grew 1½ inch at 18, was quite athletic at the time but didn't train as hard as any elite figure skaters.
There is nothing wrong with Kimmie. She is human. Everyone make mistakes. It just wasn't her night. I am proud she skated made it to the final.
Everyone has good days and bad days. This just was a bad day.
when you go to work you have days you do better at work than others, nothing is really wrong it just doesn't go for you. that is what happened to kimmie--nothing else. --unless she lets it mentally.
Everyone has good days and bad days. This just was a bad day.
when you go to work you have days you do better at work than others, nothing is really wrong it just doesn't go for you. that is what happened to kimmie--nothing else. --unless she lets it mentally.
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She will pull through this! It is possible that her jumps are lousy because of height and weight. But that does not mean that she will not get them back. Miki Ando is a full grown woman and became World Champion last season (not talking about this season - though it might have been Miki's nerves, after those great 4Salchows in practice...). And Arakawa was never petite and looked more like a woman than most ladies out there - but she peaked in her early twenties, at a point where she was fully grown!
I also grew 5cm at the age of 18 and my puberty was way over back then. It messed up my backflip and flic flac for some time (did some gymnastics on regional level, but nothing elitist, just training 3 times a week).
So it is really possible.
I have full confidence that Kimmie will come back, her jump technique was rather strong and will be again...
I also grew 5cm at the age of 18 and my puberty was way over back then. It messed up my backflip and flic flac for some time (did some gymnastics on regional level, but nothing elitist, just training 3 times a week).
So it is really possible.
I have full confidence that Kimmie will come back, her jump technique was rather strong and will be again...
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Kimmie is carrying her weight in the hips and butt area. She is having a hard time carrying the extra weight around. Eventhough she is not fat. That is not the weight she is use to. So, it is difficult. Poor Kimmie! I feel for her but she is turning into another Alissa. I bet Alissa will win the national title at this point.
I hope Ashley Wagner can continue to skate well and not let the pressure get to her. Everyone will be looking to her after her impressive GP debut. Maybe Alhley, Kimmie, Alissa or Hughes can skate well enough to get us 3 spots at least. But if they come armed with their one triple jump Lp it will be ugly.
I hope Ashley Wagner can continue to skate well and not let the pressure get to her. Everyone will be looking to her after her impressive GP debut. Maybe Alhley, Kimmie, Alissa or Hughes can skate well enough to get us 3 spots at least. But if they come armed with their one triple jump Lp it will be ugly.
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I agree. I don't think Kimmie is having puberty issues, tech issues or coaching issues. I think it is psychological issues. She knows that both of her rivals when on or not attain huge scores, she has a 14yr old teammate nipping at her heels and I think she has lost confidence in herself and her skating. Ever since Kimmie has won worlds she has been in the spotlight doing shows, charity work,promoting this and that. I am not criticizing her for that but maybe she has to much on her plate and needs to step back and concentrate on her skating for Nationals. A win there will boost her confidence. I also think she thought she was under marked in her SP ( I did) and that set her up for failure in the LP. Well that is my armchair analysis and of course this is JMO. I like Kimmie and hope she works out whatever issues she is going through right now.
On the other hand she may have just had a bad night. lol
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Didn't she have to skate her LP after Mao's highest scoring LP at the World's also? She didn't exactly bomb that skate but she looked nervous and didn't pull out her performance that time either. Sometimes it's luck. Kimmie had the bad luck of Mao bombing her SP and being placed behind her after SP and therefore skating before her AND delivering a stellar performance at LP.
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jenaj - Can you really diagnose an abnormality in people? You could save the psyhologists a lot of time by giving them your secret. The Courts need to prove this to settle so many cases.
Joe
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Can't help but think the feelings you have are yours if you were in Kimmie's skates. OK. It's lonely out there on the ice when you're waiting for the music to begin.
Joe
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Well of course they are I did say JMO.:scratch:
Kimmie's been having jump problems since the beginning of the season. At her last GP event, she had a mistake in the SP but was happy afterwards. When interviewed, she said she was happy she landed the lutz in her SP. Right there, that was an eyebrow raiser.
She didn't land either lutz attempt in the FS, and no flip, either. I'd say with 5 weeks to go til Nationals, she's in trouble. I hope that it was just nerves, because the USFS needs a consistent Kimmie at Worlds. Emily's jumps are just as iffy as Kimmie's, and aside from Ashley Wagner, the rest of the age-eligible ladies are even less promising.
She didn't land either lutz attempt in the FS, and no flip, either. I'd say with 5 weeks to go til Nationals, she's in trouble. I hope that it was just nerves, because the USFS needs a consistent Kimmie at Worlds. Emily's jumps are just as iffy as Kimmie's, and aside from Ashley Wagner, the rest of the age-eligible ladies are even less promising.
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I agree she keeps attempting the 3/3 and all season they've been downgraded. I don't understand why she keeps doing them and Pam says it depends on what the first triple is but all season they've been really cheated. Her triple toe's have gotten even worse. I thought she said she was going to be attempting loops this season
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Well, if by puberty people meant the onset of menstruation, then yes, going through puberty at 18 would be an abnormality. Even in a subsistence-level hunter/gatherer society that would be very, very late to start. It HAPPENS in female athletes, but it's a very unhealthy thing that can cause health problems later (especially osteoporosis, as the delayed hormonal development slows bone growth.)
Kimmie, however, looks more like she's just having the late-teens growth spurt, which is about the last point where females normally put on height (there have been some elite gymnasts who've grown an inch in their late twenties after they quit training, but that is exceptionally unusual and very, very unhealthy.) She's a little taller. Plus, she now has the burden of being the leading US lady, following a clean Mao, and the pressure (like we see from some posters here) of "better not implode or the US will lose Worlds spots and it will be ALL MY FAULT." That's a lot of pressure for one teenager to carry around!
Give the kid a break. I know it's easy for me to say as ladiezzzz bores me silly but if the US loses a Worlds spot....well, so what? The earth will keep rotating on its axis, I promise.
