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Gracie, your skating was very good! 4th place is not bad at all. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
She only made two errors. Major ones but she still held it together.
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She only made two errors. Major ones but she still held it together.
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Yowza. I actually feel sad for her now.
They need to work on making her jumps huge again. She used to jump so big. Now she is more tentative going into everything. Frank's "smaller and more controlled" approach isn't really helping. Let her be a power skater like she wants to be.
the public in Sochi was only polite, I did not see standing ovation.
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True. But people have won medals with falls before. Heck, even Michelle Kwan got a bronze medal with a fall. This was an unusually clean and exceptional event.
Gracie, your skating was very good! 4th place is not bad at all. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
I feel as though she may just be saying this out of anger and frustration. Plently of female champions have placed fourth in major competitions, and have risen above it. Midori Ito, Michelle Kwan, Sasha Cohen.....Gracie needs to soul search this summer, because she has the goods...she's just gotta her head on straight. I've got confidence that this girl can be the first to break Yuna Kim's overall score, but she's GOTTA SKATE!
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Indeed, a Fuji TV fluff mentioned her foot injury, although just in passing. My heart sank a bit when I saw that the commercial before the ladies FS event only showed Satoko and Rika. Time is no longer by Mao's side :sad21:. Even a non-serious injury took longer time to heal when you're past 25.
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Just putting this out there, feel free slice it up and maybe it is too soon to even suggest.
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How do you all think Gracie would develop under Kori and Rohene?
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I know many might feel she would be better served with Orser. I just don't want David Wilson near her. After his comments about Yuna in TSL's interview I just cringed.
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How do you all think Gracie would develop under Kori and Rohene?
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I know many might feel she would be better served with Orser. I just don't want David Wilson near her. After his comments about Yuna in TSL's interview I just cringed.
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Yes, went back and listened again, that's the word!
I think if Worlds was not in the U.S. Anna would have beaten Ashley for the silver and it would have been Russia 1-2Of course they couldn't let that happen on U.S. ice so they lucked out that one American didn't bomb.
I also think its safe to say that Gracie Gold is by far on a consistent basis the most over marked lady currently competing right now, no question about it. I mean it would make some sense if she had a reputation as a winner or skating cleanly multiple times at big events but she doesn't. Ever since her arrival on the scene she's been making costly mistakes over and over, competition after competition. No World or Olympic medals in her shoe box and yet she gets the reputation points as if she were Michelle Kwan. There some real hardcore politiking at work
Remember that the judges come from all over the world. So it doesn't make sense to say that they couldn't let that happen. It's not a judging panel of Americans. However I agree that Pogo deserved silver. And I am a huge Ashley Wagner fan. Pogo skated 2 clean programs and maybe should have even beaten Medvedeva who looked a little slow tonight.
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Completely agree his pep talk before that skate was not very inspiring and it made me nervous for Gracie. I'm not a coach, but I really think Gracie needs someone to tell her to kick some *** out there instead of to focus on every element which leads her to skate cautiously.
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This is true, and this is not the meltdown it could've been. However, I think that was Gracie's point. "Its not as bad as it could've been" isn't exactly a good thing when talking about someone who led after the short. Something needs to change if people are content with "well she didn't fall apart."
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Completely agree his pep talk before that skate was not very inspiring and it made me nervous for Gracie. I'm not a coach, but I really think Gracie needs someone to tell her to kick some *** out there instead of to focus on every element which leads her to skate cautiously.
Yep. Gracie reminds me a lot of Sasha Cohen in terms of her problems with LPs and nerves. She needs a Robin Wagner-type coach to kick her butt.
How's this for home ice inflation: had Ashley been completely clean, she would have gained 3 points BV, made up the -1.7 lost in GOE in likely 2+ more GOEs, and scored around 148 points for her LP. All without Tanos.
Definitely a new era of COP.
It's a symptom of a declining Western culture. Capitalist logic dictates continual progress, and that's slowly died since the 80s and especially the 90s. In response, the West has clamored towards happy talk culture of unabated progress completely at odds with reality. This is played out on a macro scale in politics and in the microscale of figure skating and why I'm forced by my department to give 40% of college students As in calc 3 when in 1960 the same university gave less than 10% of kids As.
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I really don't think Gracie should take things so hard. It wasn't a disaster at all. I really felt bad when listening to her, all these ladies work so hard and are crazy good, to hear they get discouraged like that... sad. I hope it's just her reaction in the heat of the moment and she doesn't mean it.
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Can somebody explain Frank Carroll's fedora?
He looked like a gangster
Did you know that bald men look better in hats than men with hair? 'tis true, that's why Frank looks so excellent in his hat
decided to post this observation of Gracie's practice
Gracie and Frank communicate(talk) a lot during this practice, whereas at this stage of practice, most other skaters (they may leave the ice earlier or later depends on their plans) but, usually just skate and communicate with coach occasionally.
Gracie and Frank communicate(talk) a lot during this practice, whereas at this stage of practice, most other skaters (they may leave the ice earlier or later depends on their plans) but, usually just skate and communicate with coach occasionally.
I feel like Kori and Rohene still need to prove themselves a bit before a skater at Gracie's level would go to them. However, if Camp Gracie was interested in Kori and Rohene, I feel like a good way to do a test run would be for her to go to their rink over the summer to get a show program from Rohene. He'd probably choreograph her something better than her usual show programs (speaking of which, "Maybe This Time" is going to be a sad skate tomorrow...) and she could work with them a little and see what she thinks and if that environment would be a good fit for her.
I do think Orser is a good idea, but that rink is crowded at the moment and he is going to have his hands full with Javi and Yuzu. He will have so much less time for her than Frank does.
I also think that even if things maybe don't seem to be totally working with Frank, it's undeniable that he has worked for her to a certain degree. He has got her jumps more under control -- it's nerves and competition that are her undoing, not technique. He and Lori have packaged her really well. The international judges love her, just look at her PCS. They finally figured out what kind of programs work best on her, which was the missing part of the equation the past two seasons. So he has her on the right track, it's just a question of whether he is the right person to take her all the way or if she needs someone else to help her compete now that Frank has her well-packaged and well-trained.
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