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Judge 6 gave V/M an 8.75 in SS... interesting :unsure:. Same judge gave the Shibs a 10 in SS and C/B a 9.5. Not where I would personally have them perhaps.
nobody (esp not TSL:laugh:) will care b/c a russian is not participating here :laugh:

I do enjoy their free dance though. It's very tender and soft and emotional and they do seem to have a nice connection to each other on the ice.

The SD I would stick a silver dagger in until it died it's final death.
they do have chem but its an another example of #montrealmush to me:confused2:
V/M are able to elevate this style into something more
H/D - not
imo obv:slink:
 
nobody (esp not TSL:laugh:) will care b/c a russian is not participating here :laugh:


they do have chem but its an another example of #montrealmush to me:confused2:
V/M are able to elevate this style into something more
H/D - not
imo obv:slink:


They have twice: with their Queen FD and with their Leonard Cohen/kd lang SD.

Otherwise it's mush all the way...
 
nobody (esp not TSL:laugh:) will care b/c a russian is not participating here :laugh:


they do have chem but its an another example of #montrealmush to me:confused2:
V/M are able to elevate this style into something more
H/D - not
imo obv:slink:

don´t be so sure, if it is for bash to the Shibs they could be interested.
 
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Overscored? How so? They're the fastest team out there with some of the very best technical content, and, as you yourself admit, that star quality. We can agree about being excited to have them back, though.

Yeah I still think they were overscored. Sue me. Did I think they deserved the win? Absolutely. Yet, I still think they were overscored.
 
117 was too much for what V/M put on the ice, the scores seemed generally more inflated here than at Europeans (just IMO). P/C skated cleanly and their best FD this season at Europeans and got 114. The judges are basically saying that unless V/M screw up big time, the gold is theirs at Worlds. I am curious to see whether there will be a battle for silver (as the scores of S/S show here) or if P/C will easily get it at worlds if they are clean.
I am 98% sure the podium will be V/M, S/S and P/C with V/M winning. Not so sure about who gets second or third. I do prefer P/C because I think they are better ice dancers overall and their FD is my favorite this season but I also love the Shibs FD almost as equally. Unfortunately, V/M's FD does nothing for me, but this only a subjective manner. I cannot deny the quality of their skating. I so wish they would do something similar to Carmen next season!
 
I love their skating and edges and I think the program has some cool moments but something about the W/P acting and choreography doesn't work for me in that program. The moves don't feel genuine and they sometimes cross the line into looking overwrought. It would benefit from some nuance and editing.

No, it would be better if the music had enough fire for Kaitlyn & Andrew's dramatic style.
 
You know I'd buy the 'V/M were overscored' argument if their PCS hadn't gone down from GPF. And the Shibs' PCS went way up. Did you guys miss that?
 
Yes, yes, it's a conspiracy! It's ALL a conspiracy!! All of it! They've been plotting this for WEEKS and WEEKS! And now your life may be in danger for letting other people know!

:drama:

I don't think it's some conspiracy or anything. I stuck out to me because it was the only 8 I saw in their PCs and I looked at a couple other scores from that judge out of curiosity.
 
Eh... how? 117? their TES was lower... then it's higher.
Really, have not you noticed that TES almost always changes from what is given during the skate? Yes, most often it becomes lower, but sometimes it becomes higher like in this case. There is not some rule which says that the technical panel can only take away levels after the skate - they can also correct them to higher. In V/M's case they first got level 3 for their twizzles, but then it was corrected to level 4, and the level for their diagonal step sequence was also changed from level 3 to 4. There is nothing strange about it.
 
117 was too much for what V/M put on the ice, the scores seemed generally more inflated here than at Europeans (just IMO). P/C skated cleanly and their best FD this season at Europeans and got 114. The judges are basically saying that unless V/M screw up big time, the gold is theirs at Worlds. I am curious to see whether there will be a battle for silver (as the scores of S/S show here) or if P/C will easily get it at worlds if they are clean.
I am 98% sure the podium will be V/M, S/S and P/C with V/M winning. Not so sure about who gets second or third. I do prefer P/C because I think they are better ice dancers overall and their FD is my favorite this season but I also love the Shibs FD almost as equally. Unfortunately, V/M's FD does nothing for me, but this only a subjective manner. I cannot deny the quality of their skating. I so wish they would do something similar to Carmen next season!

Kind of hard to compare since it's none of the same judges. I personally don't feel like they were over scored because as others have pointed out, their PCs went done from GPF and to me that tends to be where you see a lot of overscoring.
 
117 was too much for what V/M put on the ice, the scores seemed generally more inflated here than at Europeans (just IMO). P/C skated cleanly and their best FD this season at Europeans and got 114. The judges are basically saying that unless V/M screw up big time, the gold is theirs at Worlds. I am curious to see whether there will be a battle for silver (as the scores of S/S show here) or if P/C will easily get it at worlds if they are clean.
I am 98% sure the podium will be V/M, S/S and P/C with V/M winning. Not so sure about who gets second or third.
I do prefer P/C because I think they are better ice dancers overall and their FD is my favorite this season but I also love the Shibs FD almost as equally. Unfortunately, V/M's FD does nothing for me, but this only a subjective manner. I cannot deny the quality of their skating. I so wish they would do something similar to Carmen next season!
I hope there WILL be a battle for silver
With PC being brought back on earth the intrigue somehow is back
Tho predictability came back with V/M being out of reach for other teams :laugh:

cant agree more with the 2nd bolded
VM deserve better dance
 
The Shibs' TES also went from 58ish to 56ish then back up again when the results came out.

I'm happy for Piper & Paul to get a little redemption. Crazy that they and Weaver/Poje got almost the exact same FD score. H/D's SD mark kept them high enough to keep them in 4th.

If anything I'd say H/D were generously marked for that FD with noticeable errors. But I don't really care because this isn't Worlds... At Worlds there needs to be some good judging so everyone can properly earn their Olympic spots.
 
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